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yakitate304
United States655 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
On October 04 2011 13:17 yakitate304 wrote: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i52.tinypic.com/2lkbgnc.png) ![[image loading]](http://www.bigdipperfarm.com/images/big_dipper/th_203-017.jpg) I saw this on another forum. When Walt spins the gun the third time it points away from him, specifically at that white plant. It seems to be White Monkshood (Aconitum), which is toxic. "Marked symptoms may appear almost immediately, usually not later than one hour, and "with large doses death is almost instantaneous." Death usually occurs within 2 to 6 hours in fatal poisoning (20 to 40 mL of tincture may prove fatal).[13] The initial signs are gastrointestinal including nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea. There is followed by a sensation of burning, tingling, and numbness in the mouth and face, and of burning in the abdomen. In severe poisonings pronounced motor weakness occurs and cutaneous sensations of tingling and numbness spread to the limbs. Cardiovascular features include hypotension, bradycardia, sinus tachycardia, and ventricular arrhythmias. Other features may include sweating, dizziness, difficulty in breathing, headache, and confusion. The main causes of death are ventricular arrhythmias and asystole, paralysis of the heart or of the respiratory center.[14][13] The only post-mortem signs are those of asphyxia." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aconitum#Toxicology The bolded part sounds like initial flu symptoms. That being said, if he poisons Brock with the plant, why is the Ricin Cig missing? convenience he could have easily dropped it or forgot to transfer it to a new pack or left it somewhere etc. Really even with grand plots at some points you just have to think the easy thing happened ie the kid just got sick, he lost the sig, walt left the gun there because he heard a car screech by goes on and on. On October 04 2011 13:31 semantics wrote: Frankly symptoms of a cold can be many things. A cold is fever, running noise, coughing, sore throat. Hell being that vague that's also the symptoms of inhaling anthrax | ||
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Resent
Australia938 Posts
On October 04 2011 13:17 yakitate304 wrote: I saw this on another forum. When Walt spins the gun the third time it points away from him, specifically at that white plant. It seems to be White Monkshood (Aconitum), which is toxic. "Marked symptoms may appear almost immediately, usually not later than one hour, and "with large doses death is almost instantaneous." Death usually occurs within 2 to 6 hours in fatal poisoning (20 to 40 mL of tincture may prove fatal).[13] The initial signs are gastrointestinal including nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea. There is followed by a sensation of burning, tingling, and numbness in the mouth and face, and of burning in the abdomen. In severe poisonings pronounced motor weakness occurs and cutaneous sensations of tingling and numbness spread to the limbs. Cardiovascular features include hypotension, bradycardia, sinus tachycardia, and ventricular arrhythmias. Other features may include sweating, dizziness, difficulty in breathing, headache, and confusion. The main causes of death are ventricular arrhythmias and asystole, paralysis of the heart or of the respiratory center.[14][13] The only post-mortem signs are those of asphyxia." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aconitum#Toxicology The bolded part sounds like initial flu symptoms. That being said, if he poisons Brock with the plant, why is the Ricin Cig missing? Very interesting stuff, the cig could be missing because otherwise jese wouldn't have had a clue to connect Brock's illness to anyone, so basically in this scenario Walt needed the cig to disappear to manipulate Jese to his will. | ||
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Grettin
42411 Posts
On October 04 2011 13:31 kaisen wrote: If you look closely, Huell put something in his pocket after frisking. Thats true, i was just saying that if he had something in his hands before he started frisking. So many theories and so many "evidences" so far. Amazing. | ||
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1oo
Portugal876 Posts
On October 03 2011 14:35 Diglett wrote: here is why gus walked away. http://www.amctv.com/breaking-bad/videos/inside-breaking-bad-episode-412-end-times the actor clearly explains it. This isnt working in my country, could someone please explain me why Gus stop/walked away from the car ? | ||
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Elegy
United States1629 Posts
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Resent
Australia938 Posts
 ) has drawn him to the hospital, and he gets very suspicious that something is going on there.Basically this is where all of this speculation about Walt being the one to poison the kid has come from, and people have gone back and found a lot of evidence that may point to him! | ||
HawaiianPig
Canada5155 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On October 04 2011 13:37 Resent wrote: On October 04 2011 13:17 yakitate304 wrote: I saw this on another forum. When Walt spins the gun the third time it points away from him, specifically at that white plant. It seems to be White Monkshood (Aconitum), which is toxic. "Marked symptoms may appear almost immediately, usually not later than one hour, and "with large doses death is almost instantaneous." Death usually occurs within 2 to 6 hours in fatal poisoning (20 to 40 mL of tincture may prove fatal).[13] The initial signs are gastrointestinal including nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea. There is followed by a sensation of burning, tingling, and numbness in the mouth and face, and of burning in the abdomen. In severe poisonings pronounced motor weakness occurs and cutaneous sensations of tingling and numbness spread to the limbs. Cardiovascular features include hypotension, bradycardia, sinus tachycardia, and ventricular arrhythmias. Other features may include sweating, dizziness, difficulty in breathing, headache, and confusion. The main causes of death are ventricular arrhythmias and asystole, paralysis of the heart or of the respiratory center.[14][13] The only post-mortem signs are those of asphyxia." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aconitum#Toxicology The bolded part sounds like initial flu symptoms. That being said, if he poisons Brock with the plant, why is the Ricin Cig missing? Very interesting stuff, the cig could be missing because otherwise jese wouldn't have had a clue to connect Brock's illness to anyone, so basically in this scenario Walt needed the cig to disappear to manipulate Jese to his will. This.... has me convinced. Thoroughly convinced. | ||
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Butigroove
Seychelles2061 Posts
Also, I heard there is a GIF of Huele patting down Jesse, and he pockets something, is this true? ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/eOglg.gif) If that is a clue, it doesn't even point to Gus or Walt more. Walt could have paid Saul to have Huele steal it, or Gus could already have Huele working for him (as saul said Gus introduced him to most of the hired muscle in town before) | ||
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Japan926 Posts
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braheem
Canada81 Posts
On October 04 2011 14:32 Butigroove wrote: Why would Walt use the plant, when he knows how to make Ricin, and probably many other poisons? Also, I heard there is a GIF of Huele patting down Jesse, and he pockets something, is this true? Well, Iet's say Huel switched the cigarette packs and Walt is all part of this plan.. The only thing that makes sense to me is if Walt somehow got the kid sick (perhaps very small doses of the plant so that it isn't fatal?), but did so with no intention to fatally harm him. So, all of this is done this way so that jesse thinks the kid got the ricin and freaks out because the kid could die at any moment, meanwhile its just a small dose of the plant or something else that will blow over in due time... I just don't see Heisenberg killing a child thats why this is the only way for it to make sense to me.. | ||
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Stoids
United States636 Posts
Wouldn't the scene with Jesse been even more powerful if you knew that Walt had done it? It would show how much of a monster Walt has become. Either way, this season finale is going to be awesome. No matter what route the finale takes, I'm sure I'll be amazed. This has been the best season of television since season 4 of The Wire. | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8093 Posts
On October 04 2011 13:31 kaisen wrote: If you look closely, Huell put something in his pocket after frisking. It does, so what did he take? | ||
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b0ngt0ss
259 Posts
On October 04 2011 14:32 Butigroove wrote: Why would Walt use the plant, when he knows how to make Ricin, and probably many other poisons? Hmm maybe for a non-fatal dose? Also, I heard there is a GIF of Huele patting down Jesse, and he pockets something, is this true? If that is a clue, it doesn't even point to Gus or Walt more. Walt could have paid Saul to have Huele steal it, or Gus could already have Huele working for him (as saul said Gus introduced him to most of the hired muscle in town before) Didn't it take Walt quite a long time to make the initial 'cig poison'? Maybe it was quicker/easier to extract/make the poison from a plant that is known to be poisonous? And, dayuum, you might have a point with Huell working for Gus....seems one must be on the paranoid side to be sooo crafty...you know, it's simply a heightened state of awareness. | ||
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Pyskee
United States620 Posts
On October 04 2011 14:32 Butigroove wrote: Why would Walt use the plant, when he knows how to make Ricin, and probably many other poisons? Hmm maybe for a non-fatal dose? Also, I heard there is a GIF of Huele patting down Jesse, and he pockets something, is this true? If that is a clue, it doesn't even point to Gus or Walt more. Walt could have paid Saul to have Huele steal it, or Gus could already have Huele working for him (as saul said Gus introduced him to most of the hired muscle in town before) Have we really forgotten the speculation that Mike was going to kill Jesse because of one .gif so soon? Breaking Bad isn't the type of show that puts clues into their show that require frame-by-frame analysis. | ||
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Evolve
Canada63 Posts
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Stoids
United States636 Posts
On October 04 2011 15:56 Evolve wrote: How would walt even know that Jesse was going to go to saul in the first place? Saul left those voice mails to come see him immediately. | ||
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Grettin
42411 Posts
On October 04 2011 15:54 Pyskee wrote: Have we really forgotten the speculation that Mike was going to kill Jesse because of one .gif so soon? Breaking Bad isn't the type of show that puts clues into their show that require frame-by-frame analysis. How do you know? Wasn't Vince Gilligan the one who directed/wrote the last 2 episodes, and suddenly everything like this is popping out every episode ever since. Who knows though, it's still interesting and i wouldn't rule all of these out just yet. | ||
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Basileus
United States103 Posts
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
On October 04 2011 14:21 HawaiianPig wrote: This.... has me convinced. Thoroughly convinced. I'm not cause there is a missing scene like the podcast stated that would clear all of this up but they didn't show it. It'll likely be on the dvd though as an extra. | ||
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