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Breaking Bad Season 4 - Page 55
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
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Razakel
Ireland466 Posts
Remember at the start of the episode when the DEA searches the laundry where the meth lab is raided? Then Gus calls Jesse and basically tells him Walt needs to die. Jesse refuses and asks Gus what he will do. Then Gus said... "There will be an... appropriate response". A few minutes later into the episode Jesse is rushing to the hospital and finds his 'lucky' cigarette is missing. With this in mind I think Gus did it, no question. Is there anything else in the episode that Gus could possibly mean? | ||
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Tschis
Brazil1511 Posts
On October 06 2011 01:42 GefilteFish wrote: If you are going to build a theory on the Inside Episode 412 video about Gus, you also have to take into account what Cranston says 'in character' about what Walt knows. At 2:15 he says something similar to in the episode "They send Jesse, which is brilliant, because I knew they'd send someone to kill me." This to me implies that Walt doesn't expect Jesse to come by, or even to have contact with him. Also, the maniacal laughing with a gun to your head doesn't seem like a premeditated reaction to try to convince someone you are not guilty. That seems totally in the moment, as if Walt is indeed just figuring it all out. If you are going to form a theory based on one part of the clip, you can't just ignore the rest of it. Or you have to come up with something that includes both. My thought: Someone is pitting Gus and Walt against each other. Jesse? Mike? Hector? Saul? Yeah, Cranston did say that, but he wasn't really convincing to me. It was more like he was telling a story, so he just happened to say it that way. Also, I found that laugh to be really forced, different from the previous episode, when I actually thought he was crying in the beginning. And Gus' actor actually was pretty serious while telling his side of the story, and it really pretty much sounded like Gus didn't know about it. Though I still feel like I saw a 0,00001% of a smile in his face when he heard the word poison. I don't think that bodyguard could have swaped the cigarettes, and if this actually happens to be the answer, I'll feel really bad about the stupid plot device they choose to use. But I do expect Walt to be guilty, considering what the writers have in mind for him (to turn him into a villain and see how far the public accepts and hopes for him) | ||
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MuhammadAllin
United States9 Posts
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Tsagacity
United States2124 Posts
On October 05 2011 04:34 zalz wrote: Based on how scrutinizing Gus has been in the past, I assume Gus knows Jesse and Walt met the previous night. If Gus did poison the child, he hoped Jesse would kill Walt that night. If Gus had poisoned the child then his entire goal would be that Jesse discovered it, just like if Walt poisoned the child then he too would want Jesse to learn of this. If Jesse does not know that there was foul play then he has no reason to react against anyone, it would just make him occupied with something else. If Gus poisoned the child and he learned that Jesse knew the child was poisoned then he would think "all according to plan". Everything would be going as he wanted and he would have gone to the hospital on his own accord. The whole thing that makes Gus edgy is the fact that he realises he has been lured to the hospital by Walts actions. Walt has forced him towards the hospital and if someone wants to kill you and is luring you to a specific location then it's likely that that is the place where they are going to strike. When Gus realised all that, it was just a matter of playing it smart by changing his routine, avoiding the logical paths where it was most likely that Walt would strike, like his car. The fact that Jesse visited the house and Walt is still alive should be enough to support the idea that Jesse and Walt might be working together again. | ||
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TYJ.Aoy
Brazil1265 Posts
Another thing, Gus didn't seem even the slightest bit surprised, his eyebrows didn't raise a single millimeter and he almost delineated a smirk(41:25). | ||
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OskO
Argentina369 Posts
Seriously speaking, I think Walter did it, that revelation could very well be the "wow" moment just a second before the end of the season. I just hope that Huell had nothing to do with it, that would feel really cheap for the series standards. | ||
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GuYuTe-
United States550 Posts
On October 06 2011 01:42 GefilteFish wrote: If you are going to build a theory on the Inside Episode 412 video about Gus, you also have to take into account what Cranston says 'in character' about what Walt knows. At 2:15 he says something similar to in the episode "They send Jesse, which is brilliant, because I knew they'd send someone to kill me." This to me implies that Walt doesn't expect Jesse to come by, or even to have contact with him. That's a good point and I agree that it will seem a bit cheap, but wouldn't disappoint me that much, if Huele swapped the cigs but is somewhat believable. We'll see. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
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SiguR
Canada2039 Posts
18:40 into the episode | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
On October 06 2011 14:36 SiguR wrote: If you guys go back and watch, you can see saul's bodyguard take the cigs out of jesse's pocket and put them in his own. 18:40 into the episode So then how does a different pack get back into his pocket? Or he opens up his cig pack and manages to snag just the right one? Those are some crazy skills :| | ||
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Whiteman103
United States1070 Posts
On October 03 2011 16:16 David451 wrote: I think I know the "big reveal" for the season finale. Walt is the show's big villain. Details in this show matter, right? Why would the show take so much conspicuous effort to show Jesse getting patted down by "A-Team" Huele? That was dragged on way longer than necessary, imo. Also strange that Saul was so insistent with his voicemails just to give Jesse some money, right before riding off into the sunset. Everyone is asking how Gus knew not to get into his car. Why was his mind racing after meeting with Jesse? People are assuming it is because Gus is somehow omnipotent. But it all makes more sense if Gus did not poison Brock. Finding out about the poison certainly seemed to be a genuine surprise to him, and would give cause to his strange behavior in the parking lot. Who had the strongest motive to aggravate Jesse? Walt did. Walt was under the threat of his entire family being killed. Who was the only person other than Jesse who knew about the ricin? Walt. Sure, you say Gus knew, but then why was that never ever hinted at during this season? It's too pat for Gus to know without one shred of foreshadowing. Too pat for a show like this. Hell, just listen to Walt's insane "Joker" laugh. Is that a coincidence? Or maybe it's foreshadowing that Walt is really, truly, breaking bad. The title of the final episode is "Face Off". What if that doesn't just refer to a guns-blazing battle at Hank's place. What if it's referring to Walt's mask of humanity finally coming off? The producers have hinted at a terrifying conclusion to this season. Gus dying would not be terrifying, in fact it would likely have people cheering. What would be more terrifying than finding out Walt poisoned the child? Season 3 ends with Jesse killing an innocent. What would be more "book end" than Walt revealing to Jesse that he poisoned the baby to protect his family... and then killing Jesse. I'm getting chills just writing this. Until next week. WOW this sounds so right, shit. OMFG i just cant say how much i hope this isnt right just because i will have been complety spoiled here. would have been a sick good cliffhanger but i think this is right and now hope to god its not it. | ||
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b0ngt0ss
259 Posts
- Everything Jesse says to Walt whilst he is pointing a gun at him is true? - Jesse immediately suspects Walter when he hears the kid's mom say he was fine in the morning. What happened that morning of the episode: - Walt does not show up for the cook, 2 DEA agents search the laundromat with a drug dog because Hank pressures/manipulates them to. - Whilst the DEA agents are searching Jesse and the black dude are pinned down and Walter knows that Gus is in his safe-house, making Walt free to do what he wishes without worrying about a tail...i.e. - poisoning kid. - Saul called and left Jesse 6 voice-mails saying he needed him to come over and as soon as he does he is padded down,,,this is where he gets pick-pocketed? Saul is faced to choose sides after he hears what happened to Walt in the desert and chooses Walt's side. I think the whole scene with Gus proves Walt poisoned kid... Gus thinks about all the events that occurred that day and figures out he was setup...possible giveaway being the way Jesse says the kid was poisoned..Gus steps closer to Jesse to get a better read on him...puts out his hands and Jesse flinches.... Or maybe the kid has the flu and Gus is a mind-reader. | ||
Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
Also... fuck, so good Y_Y | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
Hype!!! | ||
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leo23
United States3075 Posts
On October 08 2011 21:26 Beyonder wrote: Haha still kind of found her annoying in that scene though, but I guess its in a good way :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwzDqN7foyI&feature=related Hype!!! HAHAHAHA! Hype!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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Corvi
Germany1406 Posts
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Resent
Australia938 Posts
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
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