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Nailpolish
Profile Joined June 2010
United States56 Posts
October 03 2011 22:44 GMT
#1001
Well since gus didnt poison the kid, that leaves pretty much walt. i highly doubt the kid was just randomly sick, that would just be pure troll. I don't think it is ricin though, walt would not kill that boy, and saul would not help walt if he was planning on killing the kid. It is probably some other poison that is not fatal, also, didn't walt say there would be no symptoms from ricin?
finale is going to be sick! this show is too unpredictable so i'm not going to make any predictions on what's going to happen.
Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
October 03 2011 22:47 GMT
#1002
On October 04 2011 07:29 Klogon wrote:
Actually I bet he dropped the keys but just pretended not to so they could get on with the scene.


That was my initial thought watching the gif.
I can only play starcraft when I am shit canned. IPXZERG is a god.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
October 03 2011 22:50 GMT
#1003
On October 04 2011 07:44 Nailpolish wrote:
Well since gus didnt poison the kid, that leaves pretty much walt. i highly doubt the kid was just randomly sick, that would just be pure troll. I don't think it is ricin though, walt would not kill that boy, and saul would not help walt if he was planning on killing the kid. It is probably some other poison that is not fatal, also, didn't walt say there would be no symptoms from ricin?
finale is going to be sick! this show is too unpredictable so i'm not going to make any predictions on what's going to happen.

why highly doubt, how does the kid get poisoned i mean Walt can't just walk up to a kid with a broken up face being 40+ years old with a goatee and bald then give him candy and the kid not mention this to his mom =p, it's much more plausible the kid is just randomly sick
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
October 03 2011 22:50 GMT
#1004
Damn, I both want it and don't want it to be Walt. If the season finale is supposed to be some kind of "face off" between Walt and Gus, my bet's on Walt. He should do well to not underestimate how far Walt's going to go to end him.
Sup.
Nailpolish
Profile Joined June 2010
United States56 Posts
October 03 2011 22:56 GMT
#1005
On October 04 2011 07:50 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 07:44 Nailpolish wrote:
Well since gus didnt poison the kid, that leaves pretty much walt. i highly doubt the kid was just randomly sick, that would just be pure troll. I don't think it is ricin though, walt would not kill that boy, and saul would not help walt if he was planning on killing the kid. It is probably some other poison that is not fatal, also, didn't walt say there would be no symptoms from ricin?
finale is going to be sick! this show is too unpredictable so i'm not going to make any predictions on what's going to happen.

why highly doubt, how does the kid get poisoned i mean Walt can't just walk up to a kid with a broken up face being 40+ years old with a goatee and bald then give him candy and the kid not mention this to his mom =p, it's much more plausible the kid is just randomly sick


Just the fact that it felt like walt baited pinkman into coming, baited him by placing the gun in a vulnerable spot while he turns around, felt like he knew exactly how jesse was going to react and made him seem vulnerable to the situation. and it also felt that joker laugh he did was forced upon compared to the laugh he did end of last episode. I still think he planned the whole thing as for how he poisoned the kid, he probably got saul and his boys to do it, maybe in the lunch bag or something.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 23:34:26
October 03 2011 23:33 GMT
#1006
On October 04 2011 07:56 Nailpolish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 07:50 semantics wrote:
On October 04 2011 07:44 Nailpolish wrote:
Well since gus didnt poison the kid, that leaves pretty much walt. i highly doubt the kid was just randomly sick, that would just be pure troll. I don't think it is ricin though, walt would not kill that boy, and saul would not help walt if he was planning on killing the kid. It is probably some other poison that is not fatal, also, didn't walt say there would be no symptoms from ricin?
finale is going to be sick! this show is too unpredictable so i'm not going to make any predictions on what's going to happen.

why highly doubt, how does the kid get poisoned i mean Walt can't just walk up to a kid with a broken up face being 40+ years old with a goatee and bald then give him candy and the kid not mention this to his mom =p, it's much more plausible the kid is just randomly sick


Just the fact that it felt like walt baited pinkman into coming, baited him by placing the gun in a vulnerable spot while he turns around, felt like he knew exactly how jesse was going to react and made him seem vulnerable to the situation. and it also felt that joker laugh he did was forced upon compared to the laugh he did end of last episode. I still think he planned the whole thing as for how he poisoned the kid, he probably got saul and his boys to do it, maybe in the lunch bag or something.

How could he time it so when he finishes his sentence that a car would screech by allowing him to unsuspectingly get up and check all the windows. Do they even confirm that the kid is poisoned? imma rewatch cuz i swear they are setting it up like that but he's just gonna be sick. Walts big speeches are nothing new he's a surviver.
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 23:40:47
October 03 2011 23:40 GMT
#1007
People speculating that Walt poisoned the kid are crazy.
Don't you rage when you lose too? -FruitDealer
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 23:44:35
October 03 2011 23:44 GMT
#1008
I'm like 80% sure the kid is just randomly sick as they never say it's poison in the episode just conjecture. It's a very charged moment before this episode with walt calling the da not having the money to run away and stuff so this just being the straw that broke the camel's back and reason for it to continue to escalate. Gus is a patent man given time he would kill walt once the da stuff has died down. And walt has been at home all day afa we know
Cocojack
Profile Joined November 2008
United States22 Posts
October 03 2011 23:48 GMT
#1009
How about the possibility that Walt poisoned the kid with something else? It's not ridiculous to think that Walt could conjure up a drug or something that could cause flu-like symptoms without causing death. He could swipe the ricin off Jesse and put Jesse into a state of panic for just long enough to turn him against Gus. Then the kid is okay, Walt isn't the villian, and Jesse never knows what happened!
"No comment." -Anonymous
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
October 03 2011 23:56 GMT
#1010
On October 04 2011 07:47 Rotodyne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 07:29 Klogon wrote:
Actually I bet he dropped the keys but just pretended not to so they could get on with the scene.


That was my initial thought watching the gif.


He didn't drop the keys
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
b0ngt0ss
Profile Joined July 2011
259 Posts
October 03 2011 23:59 GMT
#1011
On October 03 2011 20:36 snotboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 20:05 Scaramanga wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

What does he drop


This solves the equation IMO

WOW! That's quite an eye you got there! Is that GIF legit?
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
October 04 2011 00:00 GMT
#1012
It's rather elaborate, for him to come up wth a poison, deliver that poison to the kid and to set it up all after his visit to saul to bait jesse over to his house where he takes jesse out of killing him then into killing gus though a car bomb which was set up in the beginning of the episode. For the most part walt just wings it imo, he finds something to do and does it this sort of grand scheming is kind of out there. Also unless we find out that the gun wasn't loaded i doubt walt would risk his life on this move he never allows people to hold all the cards.

Saul's man easily could just be patting him down because, saul is on the run, running away from gus because of what he heard about walt. Patting down the guy that works for gus doesn't seem like a bad idea or frankly anyone that comes though that door.
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
October 04 2011 00:03 GMT
#1013
On October 04 2011 08:59 b0ngt0ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 20:36 snotboogie wrote:
On October 03 2011 20:05 Scaramanga wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

What does he drop


This solves the equation IMO

WOW! That's quite an eye you got there! Is that GIF legit?


Yeah but it's most likely nothing. You can see a little reaction from Jesse when it falls and then he decided to keep walking. I think it's just a mistake
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
Blackhawk13
Profile Joined April 2010
United States442 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 05:04:05
October 04 2011 00:10 GMT
#1014
Why would Walt be free to go wherever (buying materials for a bomb if he didn't have them already, going to plant the bomb on Gus's car). Wouldn't Gus have him under surveillance 24-7 if this is supposed to be realistic?
Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
October 04 2011 00:11 GMT
#1015
The scene where Huell examines Jesse is way more important. Watch it closely and you will know what is going on there.
xlord 5:0
b0ngt0ss
Profile Joined July 2011
259 Posts
October 04 2011 00:24 GMT
#1016
On October 04 2011 09:03 Tschis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 08:59 b0ngt0ss wrote:
On October 03 2011 20:36 snotboogie wrote:
On October 03 2011 20:05 Scaramanga wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

What does he drop


This solves the equation IMO

WOW! That's quite an eye you got there! Is that GIF legit?


Yeah but it's most likely nothing. You can see a little reaction from Jesse when it falls and then he decided to keep walking. I think it's just a mistake

Yea, you're right about the slight reaction from Jesse, but it does look like he drops keys.

You can kinda see a slight glimmer from the reflection of the sun off the keys... It doesn't look like a box of cigs.

Quick, some one make a GIF of Huell patting down Jesse. GOGOGO
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
October 04 2011 00:47 GMT
#1017
On October 04 2011 09:00 semantics wrote:
It's rather elaborate, for him to come up wth a poison, deliver that poison to the kid and to set it up all after his visit to saul to bait jesse over to his house where he takes jesse out of killing him then into killing gus though a car bomb which was set up in the beginning of the episode. For the most part walt just wings it imo, he finds something to do and does it this sort of grand scheming is kind of out there. Also unless we find out that the gun wasn't loaded i doubt walt would risk his life on this move he never allows people to hold all the cards.

Saul's man easily could just be patting him down because, saul is on the run, running away from gus because of what he heard about walt. Patting down the guy that works for gus doesn't seem like a bad idea or frankly anyone that comes though that door.


here's what I posted last week

I imagine he is going to get out of this jam the same way he has gotten out of jams in the past: by using chemistry. This whole season he has been driven by neurotic, paranoid, ill-advised, rash actions. He's a lot better when he sits down to think for a second.


When Walt has a couple seconds to think he is capable of some brilliance. For example, using the fulminated mercury at Tuco's place, using thermite to steal the ingredients he needed to cook, building a battery out of spare parts to start the RV when he was about to die, etc. For the entire season up til last night's episode Walt has been panicked and he hasn't been thinking. Now he has accepted his fate so he has nothing to be afraid of. Now he is using his brain instead of his brawn. Now Heisenberg returns.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
October 04 2011 00:48 GMT
#1018
On October 04 2011 09:11 Awesomeness wrote:
The scene where Huell examines Jesse is way more important. Watch it closely and you will know what is going on there.


That or listen to the podcast since they discuss cutting out a scene at the very beginning.
There's no S in KT. :P
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 01:31:59
October 04 2011 01:26 GMT
#1019
On October 04 2011 09:47 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 09:00 semantics wrote:
It's rather elaborate, for him to come up wth a poison, deliver that poison to the kid and to set it up all after his visit to saul to bait jesse over to his house where he takes jesse out of killing him then into killing gus though a car bomb which was set up in the beginning of the episode. For the most part walt just wings it imo, he finds something to do and does it this sort of grand scheming is kind of out there. Also unless we find out that the gun wasn't loaded i doubt walt would risk his life on this move he never allows people to hold all the cards.

Saul's man easily could just be patting him down because, saul is on the run, running away from gus because of what he heard about walt. Patting down the guy that works for gus doesn't seem like a bad idea or frankly anyone that comes though that door.


here's what I posted last week

Show nested quote +
I imagine he is going to get out of this jam the same way he has gotten out of jams in the past: by using chemistry. This whole season he has been driven by neurotic, paranoid, ill-advised, rash actions. He's a lot better when he sits down to think for a second.


When Walt has a couple seconds to think he is capable of some brilliance. For example, using the fulminated mercury at Tuco's place, using thermite to steal the ingredients he needed to cook, building a battery out of spare parts to start the RV when he was about to die, etc. For the entire season up til last night's episode Walt has been panicked and he hasn't been thinking. Now he has accepted his fate so he has nothing to be afraid of. Now he is using his brain instead of his brawn. Now Heisenberg returns.

But those are marks of his intellect, as he does what he does now not so much for his family although that's what he may tell himself he does it for the pride he never got as a teacher. This sort of elaborate planning has never been shown by him before, he's never thought too much past the 1st step he rather just commits and adjusts. Gus on the other hand very much so has shown his ability to put grand plans into action, ie the restaurant a front for distribution and laundry a front for the super lab. Acting like he's conceding and making peace in order to kill his apposition in the cartel. Although given the info gus did not do this but it fits gus more so then walt's sort of wild rush based criminality. Now if walt did do this would this mean the show is moving into walt taking out and becoming gus?

In otherwords i'm looking towards his depravity, you're looking into him becoming grand assuming the king's role in the 5th season which does sound good in mind. But i think it will be fall and redemption in the 5th season not rise and fall.
Resent
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia938 Posts
October 04 2011 01:36 GMT
#1020
The kid just randomly being sick would be the lamest thing ever imo...someone had to have done something to him, ricin or not.
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