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ABagOfFritos
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
October 03 2011 14:39 GMT
#981
Kid stole cigarette, found Jesse's "special candy" and tried some. Kid sick. Kid die. Jesse sad.
unsaintly
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany687 Posts
October 03 2011 15:47 GMT
#982
Great episode, but I'll ignore all the speculations. Last time I got sucked into stuff like that was with Lost and that didn't end well ._.
DizzyDrone
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands629 Posts
October 03 2011 16:02 GMT
#983
On October 03 2011 23:33 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 23:22 DizzyDrone wrote:
Just want to throw an alternative theory out there;

Brock wasn't poisoned, but really just got sick. There's nothing in it for Gus to poison Brock (the scenario Walt describes sounds too far fetched to me) and althought Walt has let people die before, I don't think he'd poison a kid.

Then how do you explain the lone missing cigarette?


There's already an image one page back of Jesse dropping something as he got back to his car, a scene which seemed out of place to begin with.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 16:04:28
October 03 2011 16:02 GMT
#984
On October 03 2011 23:39 ABagOfFritos wrote:
Kid stole cigarette, found Jesse's "special candy" and tried some. Kid sick. Kid die. Jesse sad.


That would be what everyone would jump to, wich is why they removed that possibility.

Jesse knew he had it on him after he left the house because he checked in the morning. He never met the kid after that but he did have the poison pill on him. How could the kid steal it when he had it in the morning and never met him after.

That is why the child has to have been intentionally poisoned. Someone took the pill from Jesse and gave it to the child.



Walt is a pretty unique TV-character now that i think of it. Wether he poisoned the kid or not, nobody would really be suprised if he did. Not many main characters in TV that are that depraved yet whom we still root for somewhat.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 16:16:30
October 03 2011 16:11 GMT
#985
That being said was it confirmed ricen in the episode i was only half watching so if it was confirmed ionno wasn't paying all that close attention.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
October 03 2011 16:22 GMT
#986
Great episode once again, and i really don't know what will happen. This show is hard to predict tbh.

Until next week!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
October 03 2011 18:12 GMT
#987
Love it! I'm on the "Walt did it" camp, but I am just excited to see what they come up with. These guys have been delivering consistently so I'm not really worried.
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
October 03 2011 18:17 GMT
#988
On October 04 2011 01:11 semantics wrote:
That being said was it confirmed ricen in the episode i was only half watching so if it was confirmed ionno wasn't paying all that close attention.

No it was not confirmed. He can't get anywhere near the kid he has no idea what the kid has. and neither do we.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
October 03 2011 19:16 GMT
#989
On October 04 2011 03:17 Nizaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 01:11 semantics wrote:
That being said was it confirmed ricen in the episode i was only half watching so if it was confirmed ionno wasn't paying all that close attention.

No it was not confirmed. He can't get anywhere near the kid he has no idea what the kid has. and neither do we.

So that gives us.

The kid is just sick for no great reason

Gus poisoned him, in order to help him in the hospital where he says he has ability to get doctors etc, ie win jesse over by going though the kid.

Walt poisoned him, i think it's unlikely he started this for his family, would he destroy another family in order to strike back at gus he has no issue with taking down criminals but just bystanders doesn't seem to be his thing at least i don't have anything to think other wise. If he did i don't think saul would help him he doesn't seem like the kind of criminal.

I think the former is the most likely.
Zozo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil2579 Posts
October 03 2011 19:27 GMT
#990
I'm a fan of the Walt-the-villain theory.

I think the gun spin scene says a lot, whatever he was coming up with led to his death in the end. Only way out he saw was when it pointed at the flower (innocent). He could kill Jesse and he would be Gus' only cook, but he would still be a peon, nothing else. He needs Pinkman to kill gus, but Jesse is loyal to both sides, pinning a kill on Gus would do it.
EGM guides me
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
October 03 2011 19:35 GMT
#991
On October 04 2011 04:16 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 03:17 Nizaris wrote:
On October 04 2011 01:11 semantics wrote:
That being said was it confirmed ricen in the episode i was only half watching so if it was confirmed ionno wasn't paying all that close attention.

No it was not confirmed. He can't get anywhere near the kid he has no idea what the kid has. and neither do we.

So that gives us.

The kid is just sick for no great reason

Gus poisoned him, in order to help him in the hospital where he says he has ability to get doctors etc, ie win jesse over by going though the kid.

Walt poisoned him, i think it's unlikely he started this for his family, would he destroy another family in order to strike back at gus he has no issue with taking down criminals but just bystanders doesn't seem to be his thing at least i don't have anything to think other wise. If he did i don't think saul would help him he doesn't seem like the kind of criminal.

I think the former is the most likely.


Walt comes #1, we know this from last season.

Walt even has a short line on how if the choice comes down on them (him and Jesse) or someone else then it will always be them.

Walt had no problem letting Jesse's girlfriend die, he had no trouble letting Gale die and now he's finally going to break bad by killing (or nearly killing) an innocent child in order to turn Jesse against Gus. Walt knew Jesse was drifting away from him, they had a big fight. He knew he had to do something drastic to get Jesse back in his team.


Walt has been breaking bad for 4 seasons now. I recon Walt will have killed the kid but that it finally catches up to him in the 5th and final season.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 19:37:40
October 03 2011 19:36 GMT
#992
Podcast for episode 412 is up.

http://www.amctv.com/shows/breaking-bad/insider-podcast-season-4

If you use firefox/chrome get ietab 2 addon and it works.
There's no S in KT. :P
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
October 03 2011 19:36 GMT
#993
On October 03 2011 22:33 Suvorov wrote:
I can't believe Giancarlo Esposito with a semi latin background can't speak spanish to save his life. Rofl, it's ok, I love him anyway.

Edit: I take that back, he has no latin roots. However, if he's picked to portray a latin character (an alleged chilean) his spanish could use some help! Doesn't sound natural at all.


Arrrgh, it's like when I watch a show and the actor's speak 'Chinese'. I feel your annoyance.

semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
October 03 2011 19:40 GMT
#994
On October 04 2011 04:35 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 04:16 semantics wrote:
On October 04 2011 03:17 Nizaris wrote:
On October 04 2011 01:11 semantics wrote:
That being said was it confirmed ricen in the episode i was only half watching so if it was confirmed ionno wasn't paying all that close attention.

No it was not confirmed. He can't get anywhere near the kid he has no idea what the kid has. and neither do we.

So that gives us.

The kid is just sick for no great reason

Gus poisoned him, in order to help him in the hospital where he says he has ability to get doctors etc, ie win jesse over by going though the kid.

Walt poisoned him, i think it's unlikely he started this for his family, would he destroy another family in order to strike back at gus he has no issue with taking down criminals but just bystanders doesn't seem to be his thing at least i don't have anything to think other wise. If he did i don't think saul would help him he doesn't seem like the kind of criminal.

I think the former is the most likely.


Walt comes #1, we know this from last season.

Walt even has a short line on how if the choice comes down on them (him and Jesse) or someone else then it will always be them.

Walt had no problem letting Jesse's girlfriend die, he had no trouble letting Gale die and now he's finally going to break bad by killing (or nearly killing) an innocent child in order to turn Jesse against Gus. Walt knew Jesse was drifting away from him, they had a big fight. He knew he had to do something drastic to get Jesse back in his team.


Walt has been breaking bad for 4 seasons now. I recon Walt will have killed the kid but that it finally catches up to him in the 5th and final season.

Well there is a difference gale is not innocent he may be a dandy but his hands were not clean, and letting someone die is passive walt wasn't actively doing it. Walt has no problem with inaction furthering his goal, or action against those who wronged him, but a random child who's only crime is that jesse knows him?
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
October 03 2011 19:40 GMT
#995
Guys, I think the gun scene only shows that the gun points to the plant, Walt looks at the plant in that vase, and realizes he could make bombs with fertilizants.
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
theaxis12
Profile Joined March 2011
United States489 Posts
October 03 2011 19:52 GMT
#996
I have really liked this season, dramatic compelling and action packed it has been great.......Until last night. Last night's drama felt forced, why did they need to bring the kid into it--there was plenty of drama already, and adding another story in the 2nd to last episode felt wrong. Plus we hardly even know the kid, so it just felt like it was tacked on and my emotional feeling for him was shallow.
Shut your mouth and put your head back in the clouds.
Nibbler89
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
884 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 20:17:58
October 03 2011 20:11 GMT
#997
I'd be pretty shocked if Walt would do that to the kid since in the previous episode he accidentally calls walt Jr. Jesse. I think he sees Jesse as more of his true son because he's the only character he really feels comfortable being himself around, even walt jr mentions that he feels Walt is never truly himself when he's around his family. To backstab him like that would be... well like I said shocking.

From a purely calculating point of view though I could see Walt devising that plan as it really was probably the best way to get Jesse on his side quickly. It's possible that maybe walt gave him a very small dose and will try to explain/ rationalize to jesse that he was never in any real danger because he knew jesse would figure it out.

The scene that struck me as the most powerful in the episode was near the start when he is basically saying his final farewell to his daughter. The pained look on his face without any words as they get ready to leave conveyed so much. You can get the feeling he's thinking about how he'll never get to see her grow up without him saying a single word.
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
October 03 2011 21:08 GMT
#998
On October 03 2011 22:33 Suvorov wrote:
I can't believe Giancarlo Esposito with a semi latin background can't speak spanish to save his life. Rofl, it's ok, I love him anyway.

Edit: I take that back, he has no latin roots. However, if he's picked to portray a latin character (an alleged chilean) his spanish could use some help! Doesn't sound natural at all.


He has been living in the states for more than a decade with minimal spanish contacts, its pretty natural for people to develop an accent on their mother tongue in that scenario.
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
October 03 2011 21:51 GMT
#999
On October 03 2011 20:05 Scaramanga wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

What does he drop


If you look closely, I see him realizing he's droping something, but he keeps walking. I think it's a minor error in that scene that the actor just kept walking and noone noticed or they didn't edit because it's really small.

It looks like a paper anyways, not cigarettes
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 22:29:20
October 03 2011 22:29 GMT
#1000
Actually I bet he dropped the keys but just pretended not to so they could get on with the scene.
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