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kaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States601 Posts
October 03 2011 09:56 GMT
#961
Or it was Tyrus who poisoned the kid without Gus knowing. I can tell Tyrus hates Jesse's guts after him completely dissing Tyrus and went for Jesse by poisoning Brock.

Also, IMO, I think Tyrus will switch side or something in finale.
Slipspace
Profile Joined May 2010
United States381 Posts
October 03 2011 10:00 GMT
#962
Gus is just a cold dude and was trying to both kill Walt AND keep Jesse working, so he made it look like Walt poisoned the kid

the video that was linked on the last page makes it very evident that Walt didn't do it
Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
October 03 2011 10:07 GMT
#963
On amctv.com they have pictures from episodes 1-12, and they happened to have 2 more pictures from the season finale, the very last picture(#123) might be a spoiler of some sort so check on your own will.
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
October 03 2011 10:23 GMT
#964
My gut is telling me Walt poisoned Brock. He let Jesse's girlfriend die before so there's proof that he is willing to sacrifice others for his own self interest.

Can't wait for next week.
adRo.
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia243 Posts
October 03 2011 10:29 GMT
#965
Perhaps Walt intended to posion the mother of the child?
i like turtles
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
October 03 2011 10:34 GMT
#966
Walt was unaccounted for in large parts of the episode. People kept calling him, no answer.

At this point i think it's most likely that Walt poisoned Brock. We shall see in a week.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
October 03 2011 11:05 GMT
#967
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

What does he drop
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
NobleDog
Profile Joined May 2010
United States65 Posts
October 03 2011 11:21 GMT
#968
When Walt first made the ricin didn't he say the effects weren't immediate? That they would take days to show?

Jesse's loss of the ricin and Brock's sickness are quick though.
Live free or die
Resent
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia938 Posts
October 03 2011 11:30 GMT
#969
It probably would work a lot faster in a child, but who knows, maybe the Ricin really wasn't used!
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 11:33:49
October 03 2011 11:33 GMT
#970
On October 03 2011 16:16 David451 wrote:
I think I know the "big reveal" for the season finale.

Walt is the show's big villain.

Details in this show matter, right?

Why would the show take so much conspicuous effort to show Jesse getting patted down by "A-Team" Huele? That was dragged on way longer than necessary, imo. Also strange that Saul was so insistent with his voicemails just to give Jesse some money, right before riding off into the sunset.

Everyone is asking how Gus knew not to get into his car. Why was his mind racing after meeting with Jesse? People are assuming it is because Gus is somehow omnipotent. But it all makes more sense if Gus did not poison Brock. Finding out about the poison certainly seemed to be a genuine surprise to him, and would give cause to his strange behavior in the parking lot.

Who had the strongest motive to aggravate Jesse? Walt did. Walt was under the threat of his entire family being killed.

Who was the only person other than Jesse who knew about the ricin? Walt. Sure, you say Gus knew, but then why was that never ever hinted at during this season? It's too pat for Gus to know without one shred of foreshadowing. Too pat for a show like this.

Hell, just listen to Walt's insane "Joker" laugh. Is that a coincidence? Or maybe it's foreshadowing that Walt is really, truly, breaking bad.

The title of the final episode is "Face Off". What if that doesn't just refer to a guns-blazing battle at Hank's place. What if it's referring to Walt's mask of humanity finally coming off?

The producers have hinted at a terrifying conclusion to this season. Gus dying would not be terrifying, in fact it would likely have people cheering. What would be more terrifying than finding out Walt poisoned the child?

Season 3 ends with Jesse killing an innocent. What would be more "book end" than Walt revealing to Jesse that he poisoned the baby to protect his family... and then killing Jesse. I'm getting chills just writing this.

Until next week.

Tyrus stealing the smokes out of jesse's locker as he's cooking seams like a way more viable than huele having the fine motor skills to take a single upturned cigarette out of a semi full pack in the few seconds of patting jesse down. Saul wants to give jesse back his money as jesse only needs to put one word into gus for saul to wind up dead himself, he thinks jesse will be majorly pissed off if he skips town without giving his money back. He already knew how expendable he was when hank was threatening him.

The poisoning seamed like a genuine surprise to gus? go and look at that scene, his face is void of emotion

Walt doesn't really gain anything by pissing off jesse, how did he know that he could gain jesse's help through a conversation with a gun to his head?

Foreshadowing? walt being taled many times in his car, being watched like a hawk in his own lab, gus always watching cameras when we see him in his office? i think thats foreshadowing enough?

Walts manic laugh can just be simply put down to him realizing that of all the options he had to protect his family are gone (was so good ^^)

Face off can also mean two quick witted men gunning for each other without a gunfight, first victory to gus in the last episode

This theory would fit perfectly sense for a terrifying conclusion and does achieve the goal of making an ordinary person into a drug lord. however most of the ideas here are based on that one scene with huele which seams impossible to pull out that one cig in 15 seconds of ruffling, just seams unlikely to me
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
October 03 2011 11:36 GMT
#971
On October 03 2011 20:05 Scaramanga wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

What does he drop


This solves the equation IMO
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
October 03 2011 11:39 GMT
#972
brilliant episode once again.. cant wait for the final! now lets see if the new Dexter season can keep up with Breaking Bad I doubt it somehow^^
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
October 03 2011 13:08 GMT
#973
so we got the 3 possibilities and all so unlikely:

1. gus poisoned the kid. the problem here is, that the reason gus did not fall for the trap was his suspicioun something big going on because poisoning the kid was not part of his plan.

2. walt did it. ok, he got a little insane from time to times in this season, but that seems too drastic, too evil for walt imho. also walt was never introduced as an "actor", because he was pretty convincing when jesse wanted to shoot him.

3. that black dude guarding jesse all the time did it. yea, i dont even know his name. character hardly developed. no obvious motives. he seemed clever and calculated in the few scenes he got, but no, just no ....

ooooh breaking bad, you are so nice and so cruel to me.
PoopLord
Profile Joined May 2010
537 Posts
October 03 2011 13:22 GMT
#974
I wouldn't be surprised if Walt poisoned the kid, seeing as the writers originally had Walt inject heroin to kill Jesse's GF, but how would he have found the kid?
Suvorov
Profile Joined December 2010
294 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 13:39:53
October 03 2011 13:33 GMT
#975
I can't believe Giancarlo Esposito with a semi latin background can't speak spanish to save his life. Rofl, it's ok, I love him anyway.

Edit: I take that back, he has no latin roots. However, if he's picked to portray a latin character (an alleged chilean) his spanish could use some help! Doesn't sound natural at all.
If you label every single aggressive strategy 'cheese', you are officially declaring yourself an incurable mental retard.
_awake_
Profile Joined August 2007
196 Posts
October 03 2011 13:40 GMT
#976
On October 03 2011 18:56 kaisen wrote:
Or it was Tyrus who poisoned the kid without Gus knowing. I can tell Tyrus hates Jesse's guts after him completely dissing Tyrus and went for Jesse by poisoning Brock.

Also, IMO, I think Tyrus will switch side or something in finale.


How would Tyrus know about the ricin? Gus is the one with the cameras. If Tyrus did do it, he was almost certainly directed by Gus.
NutCase
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom51 Posts
October 03 2011 13:41 GMT
#977
Here's a good read of all the information/evidence linking to the theories about who poisoned Brock
http://www.reddit.com/r/breakingbad/comments/kz6tf/a_summary_of_current_evidence_and_theories/

Really can't wait till Sunday again.
DizzyDrone
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands629 Posts
October 03 2011 14:22 GMT
#978
Just want to throw an alternative theory out there;

Brock wasn't poisoned, but really just got sick. There's nothing in it for Gus to poison Brock (the scenario Walt describes sounds too far fetched to me) and althought Walt has let people die before, I don't think he'd poison a kid.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
October 03 2011 14:33 GMT
#979
On October 03 2011 23:22 DizzyDrone wrote:
Just want to throw an alternative theory out there;

Brock wasn't poisoned, but really just got sick. There's nothing in it for Gus to poison Brock (the scenario Walt describes sounds too far fetched to me) and althought Walt has let people die before, I don't think he'd poison a kid.

Then how do you explain the lone missing cigarette?
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
October 03 2011 14:34 GMT
#980
On October 03 2011 23:22 DizzyDrone wrote:
Just want to throw an alternative theory out there;

Brock wasn't poisoned, but really just got sick. There's nothing in it for Gus to poison Brock (the scenario Walt describes sounds too far fetched to me) and althought Walt has let people die before, I don't think he'd poison a kid.


That would be a lame explanation, because the cigarette is really missing. This whole series is about Walt...well, "breaking bad" ever since season 1, so after killing an innocent man last season to save himself (Yeah jesse technically killed him, but it was Walt's idea.), killing a kid to do the same would be a logical next step.

After all..."Walt is the danger".
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