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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and FireClick Here for the spoiler-free thread. |
On April 24 2012 04:32 antelope591 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 03:39 aloT wrote:
the dany sections of the tv series is identical to the books - for the next 4 seasons they will be universally disliked for their slow pace and complete disjointment from the rest of the plot Eh..maybe I'm by myself on this but the Daesnerys chapters in book 3 have been my favorite part of the series up to this point. Her storyline in book 2 did drag on big time though and it shows on TV too.
Agreed. Book 3 is a really good book for Dany. Book 2 was rather slow for her, though the chapter where she goes through the house of the undying is one of the best chapters in the entire series imo.
Also, in relation to a few posts above, the actor who plays Tywin is absolutely fantastic.
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Where was Renly Baratheon's peach?
+ Show Spoiler +that peach haunted Stannis throughout the books
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On April 24 2012 04:56 FunnelC4kes wrote:Where was Renly Baratheon's peach? + Show Spoiler +that peach haunted Stannis throughout the books
I was deeply disappointed that they missed this, myself.
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On April 24 2012 03:39 aloT wrote:
the dany sections of the tv series is identical to the books - for the next 4 seasons they will be universally disliked for their slow pace and complete disjointment from the rest of the plot
Yeah. Every week I read reviews from people who did not read the book, and every week I read something along the lines of "..and Dany will have to be integrated into the main plot soon." or something like that. Yeah. Not gonna happen. I think the critics won't like that.
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On April 24 2012 03:39 aloT wrote:
the dany sections of the tv series is identical to the books - for the next 4 seasons they will be universally disliked for their slow pace and complete disjointment from the rest of the plot
Identical is a bit of an exaggeration, we had like 3 scenes with her so far, in 1 of them Rhakoro dies (while he shouldnt), we skip totally the abandoned city, and the entering of Quarth was completely rewrote. Yes, in book 2 she was kinda boring, aside from the tower of the Warlocks, which im not sure they will put in, or if yes how detailed it will be
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can someone explain this to me: if the red witch lady can shootout shadow assassins to clear the path for Stanis...why didnt she shoot out a couple more shadow assassins to kill the entire upper tier of the Lanister household too?
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On April 24 2012 06:31 Conti wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 03:39 aloT wrote:
the dany sections of the tv series is identical to the books - for the next 4 seasons they will be universally disliked for their slow pace and complete disjointment from the rest of the plot Yeah. Every week I read reviews from people who did not read the book, and every week I read something along the lines of "..and Dany will have to be integrated into the main plot soon." or something like that. Yeah. Not gonna happen. I think the critics won't like that.
I think the fact that the disjointment from the other plots works well for the books but I imagine it will be bad for TV.
Does anyone notice how they troll the audience with Dany's storyline in the promos/trailers? Like in the most recent one they show her saying "[I want] the iron throne" and "The time to strike is now". There were other examples in previous trailers but I just find it funny that they are making people think that Dany will be in westeros soon but it's actually a long, long way off.
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On April 24 2012 07:06 Sub40APM wrote:
can someone explain this to me: if the red witch lady can shootout shadow assassins to clear the path for Stanis...why didnt she shoot out a couple more shadow assassins to kill the entire upper tier of the Lanister household too?
I think they get into that in the next episode but basically Stannis doesn't want to rely solely on witchcraft to win the throne because it would make him look weak/cowardly and he would lose the respect of his banner men. He would also not get the reverence for his Military Leadership, instead people would fear/revere Melisandre and make him look like a puppet King.
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On April 24 2012 07:06 Sub40APM wrote:
can someone explain this to me: if the red witch lady can shootout shadow assassins to clear the path for Stanis...why didnt she shoot out a couple more shadow assassins to kill the entire upper tier of the Lanister household too?
I believe that this is explained in the books by the fact that as more magic is used by Missendrei, the weaker Stannis becomes... Davos says he sees Stannis ageing 10 years in a short period.
The short of it is; Missendrei's magic is expensive and someone has to pay for it. Perhaps the show will explain it in a different way... they also didn't explain that the reason Davos took her under the castle is that Storm's End's magic walls prevent magical forces from entering... (but the storm drain does not? O_o)
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On April 24 2012 05:06 Treadmill wrote:I was deeply disappointed that they missed this, myself.
Yea they messed up the interaction between Stannis and Renly. Renly has the upper hand in the books, but in the tv series it feels like Stannis is the one in control. It also makes Stannis seem more ruthless/evil rather than just.
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On April 24 2012 07:06 Sub40APM wrote:
can someone explain this to me: if the red witch lady can shootout shadow assassins to clear the path for Stanis...why didnt she shoot out a couple more shadow assassins to kill the entire upper tier of the Lanister household too?
It's not Lord of the Rings. In Westeros magic is more down to earth.
On April 24 2012 05:06 Treadmill wrote:I was deeply disappointed that they missed this, myself.
I really miss Jeor Mormon'ts raven, too.
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On April 24 2012 07:06 Sub40APM wrote:
can someone explain this to me: if the red witch lady can shootout shadow assassins to clear the path for Stanis...why didnt she shoot out a couple more shadow assassins to kill the entire upper tier of the Lanister household too?
It's also said by Melisandre that the strain of it greatly taxes the person who's shadow is used. This is why in the 3rd book she tries to seduce Davos so as to not take the energy of a worn out Stannis any further.
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Which is really odd still, because why doesn't she just sex up random commoners/soliders then?
May be a minor plot hole but such things happen when you get into convoluted magic!
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On April 24 2012 10:27 Curu wrote:
Which is really odd still, because why doesn't she just sex up random commoners/soliders then?
May be a minor plot hole but such things happen when you get into convoluted magic!
Isn't the blood of kings (or something related to kings) a major driver in book 5 when it comes to magic? memory is a bit fuzzy atm.
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weird episode.. the jeoffry scenes where good , the birth scene was really weird.. dany was ok , arya great as always..
and tyrion..what remains to be said about his baddasery.. tywin is also awesome
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On April 24 2012 10:27 Curu wrote:
Which is really odd still, because why doesn't she just sex up random commoners/soliders then?
May be a minor plot hole but such things happen when you get into convoluted magic!
Melissandre needs the blood of a king in order to work her magic. It can't be just anyone, royal blood appears to be the catalyst
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On April 24 2012 07:29 jigga wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 05:06 Treadmill wrote:On April 24 2012 04:56 FunnelC4kes wrote:Where was Renly Baratheon's peach? + Show Spoiler +that peach haunted Stannis throughout the books I was deeply disappointed that they missed this, myself. Yea they messed up the interaction between Stannis and Renly. Renly has the upper hand in the books, but in the tv series it feels like Stannis is the one in control. It also makes Stannis seem more ruthless/evil rather than just.
?? I thought it was pretty clear that Renly had far more numbers than Stannis and given the chance, would have crushed Stannis.
Also about the Melisandre not using her power more often, it is made quite apparent that the magic has a huge toll on Stannis.
Most (if not all) of the Red "God's" magic is in exchange for something and it will be far more clear later on.
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Hey guys, couldn't stay away from this thread even though I'm being bombed with spoilers left and right :D
Could someone just explain quickly what this peach of renly's is? What role does it play in the books?
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On April 24 2012 04:56 FunnelC4kes wrote:Where was Renly Baratheon's peach? + Show Spoiler +that peach haunted Stannis throughout the books
i was playing the open beta and came down to the living room just as renly was riding away, i ask my roommate "so how did stannis like the peach" and she goes "what peach?" and i was just -_____________________- HBO whyyyyy
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