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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 23 2012 08:27 GMT
#1841
Damn, there were like 0 scenes which were exactly like in the books, half of them totally new
But, really liked it nonetheless, aside from the Joffery+whores thing
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 12:42:07
April 23 2012 08:31 GMT
#1842
Roose doesn't look anything like I pictured him.
+ Show Spoiler +
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In my head he reminded me of Orochimaru.
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+ Show Spoiler [other rants] +

- The new mountain is far too skinny. Shame they changed actors, but even more that they didn't stick the new actor in the old one's armor so at least looks like he's built and scary. New Gregor is still very tall, but very thin.

- I always imagined the shadow baby as an actual shadow. mostly see-through and silent but deadly. This was more of a black sci-fi monster screeching and stuff. Not bad, but not the silent killer I thought it would be.

- The joffrey-prostitute torture scene was really pointless and dragged on for too long. They already showed his daily dose of cruelty with the Sansa scene (which was excellent), this was unnecessary. I feel like they only tossed that scene in there to have this episode's dose of T&A. I don't remember Joffrey ever being shown as a sexual sadist in the books. They are really going out of their way to try to make Joffrey be so over the top evil that it makes Cersei look almost innocent (like with shifting the killing of Robert's bastards over to Joffrey instead of her). I predict next episode he'll install a giant neon sign above the throne saying "HEY GUYS I'M THE BAD GUY!".

- Also enough with Ros! she's taking up so much time :/
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
April 23 2012 08:58 GMT
#1843
Joffery scene wasn't as bad as i was expecting.. I thought he was gonna to make her stick it with the stag horns =P
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
April 23 2012 09:14 GMT
#1844
Hi guys, I just wanted to ask, what exactly did Selyse Baratheon give birth to? I'd be really interested to hear more about it. ^^
maru lover forever
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
April 23 2012 09:17 GMT
#1845
On April 23 2012 18:14 Incognoto wrote:
Hi guys, I just wanted to ask, what exactly did Selyse Baratheon give birth to? I'd be really interested to hear more about it. ^^

Shireen

But if you're talking about Melisandre, she gave birth to a shadow.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
April 23 2012 09:19 GMT
#1846
On April 23 2012 18:17 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 18:14 Incognoto wrote:
Hi guys, I just wanted to ask, what exactly did Selyse Baratheon give birth to? I'd be really interested to hear more about it. ^^

Shireen

But if you're talking about Melisandre, she gave birth to a shadow.


I'm sorry, I keep mixing up Sekyse and Melisandre. Yeah, she gave birth to a shadow. But what is a shadow? lol silly question but i'm SO curious
maru lover forever
iMYoonA
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia462 Posts
April 23 2012 09:21 GMT
#1847
On April 23 2012 18:17 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 18:14 Incognoto wrote:
Hi guys, I just wanted to ask, what exactly did Selyse Baratheon give birth to? I'd be really interested to hear more about it. ^^

Shireen

But if you're talking about Melisandre, she gave birth to a shadow.


no he meant selyse as in queen selyse,

but it was indeed melisandre
*yoona | taeyeon | jiyeon | na eun | cho rong | IU | nana | suzy | yejin*
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
April 23 2012 09:21 GMT
#1848
Well if you truly want to be spoiled: http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Shadow_assassin

I'd recommend just waiting to see in next week's episode though.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 23 2012 09:46 GMT
#1849
On April 23 2012 18:21 moopie wrote:
Well if you truly want to be spoiled: http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Shadow_assassin

I'd recommend just waiting to see in next week's episode though.

They will probably cut the Storm's End captain, but kudos to the special effects/CGI guys who made the last scene, it's really really well done
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 10:33:38
April 23 2012 10:18 GMT
#1850
Ok it's an assassin. I get spoiled a bit (read just a sentence), but then again I came here at my own risk. Thanks for the info guys!

When you play the game of spoilers, you either win or you get spoiled. ;/
maru lover forever
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
April 23 2012 10:29 GMT
#1851
Enjoying seeing non-readers reactions to the vagina monster =p

They're going too far with Joffrey's sadism imo, the throne room scene was tremendous for everyone but the whores was a needless few minutes spent doing nothing but elaborating a point that's already been repeatedly made.

Harrenhal looks great; rundown and broken but with the size and scale of a once proud castle.

Very dark episode all round, but I very much enjoyed it.

feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
April 23 2012 10:37 GMT
#1852
On April 23 2012 19:29 Asha` wrote:
Enjoying seeing non-readers reactions to the vagina monster =p

They're going too far with Joffrey's sadism imo, the throne room scene was tremendous for everyone but the whores was a needless few minutes spent doing nothing but elaborating a point that's already been repeatedly made.

Harrenhal looks great; rundown and broken but with the size and scale of a once proud castle.

Very dark episode all round, but I very much enjoyed it.


Agreed, the scene with the whores was just too much. I mean I guess they think that Ros needs to be in every episode. Bronn really is play awesome "There is no cure for being a cunt". Also the guy playing Tywin Lannister owns every scene he is in.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 10:47:08
April 23 2012 10:46 GMT
#1853
On April 23 2012 19:37 feanor1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 19:29 Asha` wrote:
Enjoying seeing non-readers reactions to the vagina monster =p

They're going too far with Joffrey's sadism imo, the throne room scene was tremendous for everyone but the whores was a needless few minutes spent doing nothing but elaborating a point that's already been repeatedly made.

Harrenhal looks great; rundown and broken but with the size and scale of a once proud castle.

Very dark episode all round, but I very much enjoyed it.


Agreed, the scene with the whores was just too much. I mean I guess they think that Ros needs to be in every episode. Bronn really is play awesome "There is no cure for being a cunt". Also the guy playing Tywin Lannister owns every scene he is in.

This. I already loved him (Charles Dance) in Alien 3. I am one of the few that really likes that movie.
He was also a great villain in some other movies.
Off-season = best season
befek
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland413 Posts
April 23 2012 11:38 GMT
#1854
On April 23 2012 18:46 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 18:21 moopie wrote:
Well if you truly want to be spoiled: http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Shadow_assassin

I'd recommend just waiting to see in next week's episode though.

They will probably cut the Storm's End captain, but kudos to the special effects/CGI guys who made the last scene, it's really really well done

They will prob cut Storm's End assasination out and use this scene to kill Renly.
Dan "Artosis" Stark: Roaches are coming, Game of Drones begins!
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 11:55:13
April 23 2012 11:54 GMT
#1855
On April 23 2012 20:38 befek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 18:46 Geo.Rion wrote:
On April 23 2012 18:21 moopie wrote:
Well if you truly want to be spoiled: http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Shadow_assassin

I'd recommend just waiting to see in next week's episode though.

They will probably cut the Storm's End captain, but kudos to the special effects/CGI guys who made the last scene, it's really really well done

They will prob cut Storm's End assasination out and use this scene to kill Renly.

That is my guess as well but I wonder if Edric Storm will make an appearance in this show. Kind of important character to show us what Stannis and Davos are made of.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 23 2012 12:20 GMT
#1856
Aww, I so was hoping for Arya's words to be turned into a kick-ass montage of all the people she wants to see dead. :/
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
April 23 2012 12:53 GMT
#1857
Liked the episode, felt like there was a bit of pointless stuff though in all that action. Things I have feelings on:

- Where's Renly's Peach!?!?! =(

- I wonder, given the smuggle by Davos already, whether Edric Storm will even appear. He is a good catalyst to compare Davos and Stannis.

- I don't like any of the Littlefinger scenes. Not just because they aren't in the book, but rather they were all extra weak. The Catelyn thing especially. Feels like the writers are really pushing him, which to me is odd because he's such a behind-the-scenes character. Next thing they'll give Varys an epic quest as he recovers his lost balls...

- Yeah new mountain seems too skinny. Should have buffed his armour out further.

- The Joffrey bedroom scene...was dumb. Sorry nothing in there was interesting. It's such a pity too since the Joffrey-Sansa scene was really really well done.

- I don't mind working Ros into scenes and all, but this season they're just doing it to reinforce things. Littlefinger is bad. Joffrey is bad. Janos Slint is bad. It was better when she just hung around people who gave snippets into their background. Was a great way to tell more about the backstory of characters and their opinions on the mess.

- Am I misremembering stuff, or does that entire Robb Stark scene mean nothing to anybody ever? Who was that girl!?

Anyway, still enjoyed this episode. Not the best one this season despite having probably the potentially biggest scene of the season (Stannis Renly). Was sort of expecting them to extend that as opposed to just putting Littlefinger everywhere.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 13:06:08
April 23 2012 12:57 GMT
#1858
That girl is Jeyne Westerling. She either gave him a false name or they changed the character and her background a bit (doesn't really matter, the goal is to have a catalyst to break up the Frey alliance).
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 13:09:25
April 23 2012 13:06 GMT
#1859
On April 23 2012 21:57 moopie wrote:
That girl is Jeyne Westerling, she just gave him a false name.


Oh ok. Guess the scene goes from "Huh?" to "Oh...huh?" But I guess tv audiences need their setup for a love drama with a strong female lead. So much for a "shy girl".

Not hating on it, or her. She's gorgeous. I just had different expectations, but we'll see how this pans out. I feel like audiences that don't know the books will see this coming from a mile away already though =/

EDIT: And yeah I guess it doesn't matter if she's just the catalyst. Though there are theories she might have more of a role to play, her character means nothing overall to the original plot. So development here is ok in my books.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 23 2012 13:12 GMT
#1860
On April 23 2012 21:53 bittman wrote:
Where's Renly's Peach!?!?! =(


I think that is the greatest loss of the entire series
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