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SPOILER WARNING If you only watch the show, this thread will spoil you of future events in HBO's Game of Thrones. Thread contains discussion of all books of the series A Song of Ice and Fire
Click Here for the spoiler-free thread.
ryanAnger
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States838 Posts
April 22 2012 20:44 GMT
#1821
On April 23 2012 04:04 dukethegold wrote:
The Red Viper was the sole individual that made House Martell look badass at its debut. Then he died and the readers discovered that House Martell is left with nothing but an overly cautious obese man and his overly hormonal daughter and slut nieces.


Hey now, if it weren't for his overly hormonal daughter and slut nieces, Cersei wouldn't be in the predicament that she's in. With that said, I really like the Martell family lol.
On my way...
Maginor
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway505 Posts
April 22 2012 21:18 GMT
#1822
On April 23 2012 04:41 kafkaesque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 13:46 DeepElemBlues wrote:
On April 22 2012 13:42 Crazyeyes wrote:
On April 22 2012 13:39 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Or making them bite poisoned coins.

yeah forgot about that... pate was a bit of an idiot lol

But I think its safe to assume that Jaquen is also a badass motherfucking sword fighter. And Arya's been training to be a Jedi with her 'get beat up by an old man in the dark' shit. Hell, the only reason she finally 'passed' that test was because she cheated (accidentally warged into cat, used cats eyes to hit him back).

yeah i get the feeling jaqen is just a badass motherfucker in any form of combat or other ways to off people

I guess since youre in here you don't care about spoilers, but I feel the need to apologize for spoiling you anyways.

Also, that beta can't be taking up that much time. I was done in 3 hours and I was going really slow. GET BACK TO READING! =P



didnt make the red wedding chapter any easier to read. robbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb nooooooooooooo


What? You actually get to read that in the books?

I was extremely disgruntled after reading about the Red Wedding in some other charater's chapter and thought it was a deliberate, yet idiotic decision of George R. R. Martin's excentric writing.

Jesus, how did I skip an entire chapter without noticing?

The fucking Freys bring tears of rage into my eyes. God, they're way worse than any Lannister.


This is hilarious. So, did you get one of those editions of aSoS where the book is split in two, but you only bought the second part (or whatever one the RW is not in)? Or did you actually manage to skip an entire chapter while reading?
Mpoy
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines5 Posts
April 22 2012 21:23 GMT
#1823
now im hoping that the brutality described in the red wedding and duel of the mountain and the snake would be shown on tv, especially danys conquest freeing the slaves like 163 slaves tied to a post with guts entrails hanging out and etc. im really curious on how it would be depicted on tv
Hell's fakinaway!!!
aloT
Profile Joined April 2010
England1042 Posts
April 22 2012 21:52 GMT
#1824
I knew about the red wedding in advance, and purposely skipped the chapter when I felt it coming.... yes I am a coward
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 22 2012 21:54 GMT
#1825
On April 23 2012 06:18 Maginor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 04:41 kafkaesque wrote:
On April 22 2012 13:46 DeepElemBlues wrote:
On April 22 2012 13:42 Crazyeyes wrote:
On April 22 2012 13:39 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Or making them bite poisoned coins.

yeah forgot about that... pate was a bit of an idiot lol

But I think its safe to assume that Jaquen is also a badass motherfucking sword fighter. And Arya's been training to be a Jedi with her 'get beat up by an old man in the dark' shit. Hell, the only reason she finally 'passed' that test was because she cheated (accidentally warged into cat, used cats eyes to hit him back).

yeah i get the feeling jaqen is just a badass motherfucker in any form of combat or other ways to off people

I guess since youre in here you don't care about spoilers, but I feel the need to apologize for spoiling you anyways.

Also, that beta can't be taking up that much time. I was done in 3 hours and I was going really slow. GET BACK TO READING! =P



didnt make the red wedding chapter any easier to read. robbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb nooooooooooooo


What? You actually get to read that in the books?

I was extremely disgruntled after reading about the Red Wedding in some other charater's chapter and thought it was a deliberate, yet idiotic decision of George R. R. Martin's excentric writing.

Jesus, how did I skip an entire chapter without noticing?

The fucking Freys bring tears of rage into my eyes. God, they're way worse than any Lannister.


This is hilarious. So, did you get one of those editions of aSoS where the book is split in two, but you only bought the second part (or whatever one the RW is not in)? Or did you actually manage to skip an entire chapter while reading?

that would make sense, in Germany such editions were published afaik, and it's not one chapter but 3-4
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ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
April 23 2012 00:32 GMT
#1826
It airs in about 30 minutes from now right? (9 PM Eastern, US) Can't wait to watch ^^
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
PeT[uK]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States412 Posts
April 23 2012 01:56 GMT
#1827
I cannot imagine how awkward that boat ride back must be for Davos.

On another note, Lord Tywins' cupbearer?!? Since when?
How Happy Are the Blameless Vestals Lot.
Zozo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil2579 Posts
April 23 2012 01:58 GMT
#1828
Wow Roose Bolton is badass!

I guess they wanted more of Charles Dance, having the arya+roose scenes become arya+tywin is OK in my book

I hated Joffrey's scene with the whores, but other then that, what they added was good.
EGM guides me
Geosensation
Profile Joined March 2011
United States256 Posts
April 23 2012 02:12 GMT
#1829
On April 23 2012 10:56 PeT[uK] wrote:
I cannot imagine how awkward that boat ride back must be for Davos.

On another note, Lord Tywins' cupbearer?!? Since when?


Just another effort to condense the storyline/characters to reduce confusion for non-book readers. Necessary part of the process I guess.
"My life for Aiur!"
Boisterous
Profile Joined September 2011
17 Posts
April 23 2012 02:32 GMT
#1830
On April 23 2012 11:12 Geosensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 10:56 PeT[uK] wrote:
I cannot imagine how awkward that boat ride back must be for Davos.

On another note, Lord Tywins' cupbearer?!? Since when?


Just another effort to condense the storyline/characters to reduce confusion for non-book readers. Necessary part of the process I guess.


Necessary, but depressing.

Although considering the fact that they can't interject the internal dialogue from the book it does kind of make sense.

Still, there are a lot of things that I hope they can manage not to mangle like this.

-Boisterous
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
April 23 2012 03:38 GMT
#1831
Finally convinced some of my friends to watch the show, but needless to say after the Joffrey+whores scene (wtf) and the last two minutes (-_____-) uh....
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 03:57:05
April 23 2012 03:51 GMT
#1832
On April 23 2012 12:38 1Eris1 wrote:
Finally convinced some of my friends to watch the show, but needless to say after the Joffrey+whores scene (wtf) and the last two minutes (-_____-) uh....

Honestly I did not think they would pull that scene off like in the books. I thought it was one of the more retarded scenes GRRM wrote. But I guess here noone can complain about changing things. I really wonder how people that have not read the books will take this.


Btw, as Tywin is in Harrenhall and takes Boltons place as the one having Arya as cup bearer, I guess Harrenhall will remain in possession of the Lannisters. Arya will probbaly just flee. Well does not change too much in the end. Two different occopying factions Arya has to deal with are unnecessary. The other cuts in the story they made are quite clever, too.
Off-season = best season
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 04:29:57
April 23 2012 04:09 GMT
#1833
God damn I forgot how retarded the dany chapters in ACOK were loooool. The part in the show at the gates made me cringe.

This was nowhere near as good as last episode, though Tyrion blackmailing Lancel was totally awesome.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Leth0
Profile Joined February 2012
856 Posts
April 23 2012 04:31 GMT
#1834
On April 23 2012 12:38 1Eris1 wrote:
Finally convinced some of my friends to watch the show, but needless to say after the Joffrey+whores scene (wtf) and the last two minutes (-_____-) uh....


If you 'convinced some friends to watch the show" why would you start them out in the middle of the second season.....
ballasdontcry
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 04:54:32
April 23 2012 04:51 GMT
#1835
mmm... I think it would've been more effective if they showed shadow killing Renly for the cliffhanger ending, then next week elaborate more on the shadows by showing Melisandre sending it to liberate Storm's End and assassinating Penrose. ehhhh. Just seems a bit random to show the shadows there without much context. If I didn't read the books I'd be confused as fuck.

doesn't Renly die before Penrose anyways?
IWork4Skynet
Profile Joined November 2010
Bolivia56 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 05:59:05
April 23 2012 05:57 GMT
#1836
On April 23 2012 13:51 ballasdontcry wrote:
mmm... I think it would've been more effective if they showed shadow killing Renly for the cliffhanger ending, then next week elaborate more on the shadows by showing Melisandre sending it to liberate Storm's End and assassinating Penrose. ehhhh. Just seems a bit random to show the shadows there without much context. If I didn't read the books I'd be confused as fuck.

doesn't Renly die before Penrose anyways?


Yes he does. Renly dies first and his bannermen turn to Stannis' side, then they siege Stom's End. But since they did it this way I don't think we'll get to see Storm's End T_T

EDIT: Other than that, I loved this episode. The scenes in Harrenhal were incredibly dark and awesome.
Long live rock n' roll
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
April 23 2012 07:18 GMT
#1837
Wow Roose appears but also massive divergence in his plot line is made. It's not unexpected ASOIF is so rich in content i knew when he didn't appear in season 1 that things would have to be heavily condensed.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
April 23 2012 07:26 GMT
#1838
Goddamn rat torture had me reliving flash backs of the nightmares I had after reading 1984 as a child.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
jigga
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1141 Posts
April 23 2012 07:42 GMT
#1839
Harrenhal looked amazing in the opening movie, not what I pictured in my mind at all but way better. Love the actor playing Arya, she is portraying Arya (my favourite character by far) so well.

Is anyone else sad that they basically skipped the whole red desert journey Daenarys takes? I loved the part where they finally make it to the deserted city and end up finding fruit and water. It feels like the journey wasn't as hard in the TV series compared to the books. Same with Arya's journey as well. I guess they have to condense things like crazy if they want to fit a book per season.
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
April 23 2012 08:10 GMT
#1840
Mixed feelings about the last episode. A few thoughts:

- The Jofferey scene where he is torturing the whores was way over the top and unnecessary. Everybody knows that Jofferey is a little shit and a psychopath, no need to over do it.

- Having Arya see Tywin's viewpoint I actually like, because the actor for Tywin is fantastic and needs more screen time.

- The last scene was done very well. They put in a lot of the good dialouge from the book. It made me cringe big time, but that's what it was supposed to do. I guess it just isn't as bad to read it as it is to see it.

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