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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Hyperbola
United States2539 Posts
 I'm so sad" episodes for every single character before I stop caring. I feel like any conversation between Glen and Maggie I have already heard before from Glen and Maggie or Tyrese and Jessica or whatever her name was and between Bob and Tyrese's sister. "We have to keep going and enjoy the moment while it lasts!" How many times and in how many different ways are you going to keep repeating yourself? There's really nothing more left to say. | ||
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hp.Shell
United States2527 Posts
I really enjoyed last season's character development. Sure, some parts were kinda dumb, like the Claimed Crew arc, but when it sets the story up for things like Claimed Crew vs. Rick and Daryl, it seems to be worth it. Last season seems like it could have felt slow if I had to wait between episodes, but really having just 2-3 main characters in an episode was refreshing; it reminded me of the beginning of the first season - situations like Rick in tank + Glenn helping him. The Governor season (3?) seems to be to be slower than this one. Most of the season was simply wondering when Andrea was going to snap out of it. (Also a few other major things such as plagues and deaths..) The current season seems to be going at a pretty quick pace. Lots of stuff has happened already - the entire Cannibal arc has already been resolved, the group is split again, and we have a new North Korea-esque hospital situation going on (though definitely not as bad as the real North Korea, some of the psychology seems the same). We've already got an idea of how Beth is going to get back to the group, and of course Noah will probably be added and will later die imo because of the 2 black male characters curse. This past episode we're learning more about Abraham. I enjoy worrying about how that group will survive his psychological breakdowns. Going through a giant herd of walkers straight down the road is a good idea? Eugene's big secret has already been resolved. That could have happened when they got to DC, and made the show much longer. Interesting that the plot is moving so quickly, episode after episode. It almost proves that there is some good story coming. Why else would they choose to end such potentially long, drawn out arcs so soon? Does it bother anyone else - in the very first episode, Rick shoots a little girl zombie. Well, we think she's a zombie anyway. Could he have been mistaken? Is the show about the characters' having all killed someone and this is who Rick killed? He's going to get gas, and it seems like he has no idea of the outbreak, so when did this scene happen? Sometime when he + Shane were looking for gas in season 2? Do we know for certain that Abraham killed the dude in the grocery store after the outbreak, or could that also have been before? Of course I'm probably reading too much into things, but that initial scene with Rick is still a big question mark for me. When did it happen? Does it matter? | ||
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riyanme
Philippines940 Posts
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
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Mensol
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I wouldnt mind if he takes the lead of Rick's group. He is a true survivor. | ||
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MtlGuitarist97
United States1539 Posts
The amount of Biblical allusions (and overt allusions in general) is getting pretty annoying. I just watched basically the entire season so far this weekend, and everything from quoting the Bible, to Biblical names/references (Abraham; Samson, etc.), to the "scarlet" A marking the house is just so obvious and unnecessary. I'm ok with more subtle references and allusions, but these have been really over the top and completely unnecessary to the point of being cliche and cheesy. I like a lot of what the writers have done this season (except Abraham -- imo he's a really stereotypical 80s action hero), but this just has to stop. It's really annoying. I also saw the plot twist with Eugene from a mile away. It was pretty obvious when he kept refusing to tell them how to cure the disease. I didn't really see the twist with him trying to sabotage their plan, but it made sense after you find out the whole big reveal. The episode with Beth was meh. Not a whole lot of development, but I guess it's better than most of the episodes in season 4 so I can't complain much there. I liked the first three episodes a lot. The last two were decent. By far not the worst episodes in the show's history, but they left a lot to be desired. I think this season is heading in the right direction though. The pacing so far has been much better, and I think that the characters as a whole have had much more believable dialogue. I think that there's still some room for improvement, but considering I was basically sure that I would stop watching if the first two episodes were bad, I'd consider this a great outcome | ||
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Darpa
Canada4413 Posts
edit. Episode ended with nothing happening. Brutal. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
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flashimba
225 Posts
The Walking Dead is like bullshitting an essay to meet a word limit. | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On November 15 2014 11:50 hp.Shell wrote: I'm not sure I can say that this season has had a slower pacing than past seasons. I didn't start watching this show until sometime last summer, so this is the first season I've had to wait a week between each episode. I really enjoyed last season's character development. Sure, some parts were kinda dumb, like the Claimed Crew arc, but when it sets the story up for things like Claimed Crew vs. Rick and Daryl, it seems to be worth it. Last season seems like it could have felt slow if I had to wait between episodes, but really having just 2-3 main characters in an episode was refreshing; it reminded me of the beginning of the first season - situations like Rick in tank + Glenn helping him. The Governor season (3?) seems to be to be slower than this one. Most of the season was simply wondering when Andrea was going to snap out of it. (Also a few other major things such as plagues and deaths..) The current season seems to be going at a pretty quick pace. Lots of stuff has happened already - the entire Cannibal arc has already been resolved, the group is split again, and we have a new North Korea-esque hospital situation going on (though definitely not as bad as the real North Korea, some of the psychology seems the same). We've already got an idea of how Beth is going to get back to the group, and of course Noah will probably be added and will later die imo because of the 2 black male characters curse. This past episode we're learning more about Abraham. I enjoy worrying about how that group will survive his psychological breakdowns. Going through a giant herd of walkers straight down the road is a good idea? Eugene's big secret has already been resolved. That could have happened when they got to DC, and made the show much longer. Interesting that the plot is moving so quickly, episode after episode. It almost proves that there is some good story coming. Why else would they choose to end such potentially long, drawn out arcs so soon? Does it bother anyone else - in the very first episode, Rick shoots a little girl zombie. Well, we think she's a zombie anyway. Could he have been mistaken? Is the show about the characters' having all killed someone and this is who Rick killed? He's going to get gas, and it seems like he has no idea of the outbreak, so when did this scene happen? Sometime when he + Shane were looking for gas in season 2? Do we know for certain that Abraham killed the dude in the grocery store after the outbreak, or could that also have been before? Of course I'm probably reading too much into things, but that initial scene with Rick is still a big question mark for me. When did it happen? Does it matter? I thought it was pretty clear that little girl was a zombie and that he knew exactly what she was. If he had no idea about the outbreak, I don't think he would have put a bullet in her head, he would have tried to talk to her and probably have been bitten. I think that scene happened after he left his hometown and was traveling to Atlanta, but before he completely ran out of gas and took the horse, and you're just overthinking it a bit. | ||
Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
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Kenpark
Germany2350 Posts
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sertas
Sweden887 Posts
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Sent.
Poland9203 Posts
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On November 18 2014 01:55 sertas wrote: that falling from car scene, wow, they woulda both broken every bone in their body and died. Any comments? Not to mention the car was clearly flipping over while it was falling, then didn't flip over after all. That was pretty bad editing, but then again, that's what tight budget does to you. Also, did they really try to make us believe that the evil guy in the car did not notice the other car following him into the city? Not even when they were stopping just a short distance away with a zombie clawing at the car door? wtf? | ||
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
On November 18 2014 02:00 Conti wrote: Not to mention the car was clearly flipping over while it was falling, then didn't flip over after all. That was pretty bad editing, but then again, that's what tight budget does to you. Also, did they really try to make us believe that the evil guy in the car did not notice the other car following him into the city? Not even when they were stopping just a short distance away with a zombie clawing at the car door? wtf? It was dark and they didn't have the headlights on. You wouldn't notice that in the rear-view mirror. They had no reason to think they were being followed, and noone checks the mirror in the zombie apocalypse in the first place. When they stopped, Daryl turned off the engine so they wouldn't be heard. The guy who got out saw the car, but he didn't think much of it. He didn't realize that there was no car parked there when they passed mere moments ago. I find that plausible because the human brain omits such irrelevant details. He wasn't the driver either, so he might not have been conciously watching the road and surroundings at all. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
And while they were parked out there, they still had the bloody lights on inside the car! I know that they had to do that to show the scene in the first place, but still, it was blatantly obvious that the lights were on and that their faces were easily visible from the other car. | ||
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hp.Shell
United States2527 Posts
Not a huge fan of all the Biblical references either, though it's ok with me that they are included as it fits with the apocalyptic theme. I really enjoyed Hershel's scene in the prison when he was reading from the Bible; it was quite powerful. Trying to find a reason for the show seems tough, but it is probably Biblical or spiritual due to the ideas of resurrection and years of cleansing the earth coming into play. I liked the awkwardness in the final shot with Daryl and Noah, each had forsaken the other, and both knew it, but their reactions / expressions here are quite different.  Also the manners in which they forsook each other were very different. Fun to see Daryl being so gentle with Carol - "we're not ashes" - and leaving the thief to die in the same episode, then going back... interesting dynamics here.I agree that the cop should have seen them, but maybe he thought the city was big enough that the people behind him just happened to be driving through the same area, and he didn't want a fight. "You don't have to" applies there too, he wasn't being attacked... being followed is creepy there, but it's just one car, so if he leads them to the hospital he would have the numbers advantage in a fight. We still dont know exactly how Beth was kidnapped - maybe they actually thought they were doing good? But it's more likely that they clubbed her and let her sleep it off in the hospital room. It was a shock to me that Carol wasn't "planted" but just taken - injured. She was hit by a car - maybe that's what happened to Beth. Creepy. Looking forward to the Rick episode. Maybe there will be some more direction... of course they will go after Beth and Carol... I hope that doesn't take too many episodes as it seems a bit predictable. Now that we've reached episode 6 you could say the Cannibal arc took almost half a season. :/ | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13030 Posts
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