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cava
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States1035 Posts
July 31 2010 17:32 GMT
#601
cava!
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
July 31 2010 17:35 GMT
#602
theres always a few cool kids who are like "that was terrible!", just like the kids who see a 10/10 woman and are like "omg i wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole!"

virgins

and who's comparing dark knight to inception, it wasn't that good except for heath ledger as joker.

also dont trust your opinion it sucks
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
July 31 2010 17:37 GMT
#603
On August 01 2010 02:32 cava wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyK5V4lM-Kk
LOL the last part was hilarious.

"are you talking about a vagina within a vagina?"
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
July 31 2010 17:49 GMT
#604
HAHAHAHAHA love it, nice find!
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
July 31 2010 20:19 GMT
#605
On July 31 2010 05:02 youngminii wrote:
Ending was left ambiguous on purpose. The tabletop spinner starts wobbling at the end before the movie cuts. The spinner is meant to spin perfectly and endlessly if he's in a dream but the director chose to make it wobble to let the viewer decide on the ending themselves. It's a common trick used in all forms of entertainment and personally I thought it was kind of dirty to do that. Movie was fucking fantastic though.


Yes, the ending was the only shitty moment of that movie.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
July 31 2010 20:29 GMT
#606
On August 01 2010 05:19 Offhand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2010 05:02 youngminii wrote:
Ending was left ambiguous on purpose. The tabletop spinner starts wobbling at the end before the movie cuts. The spinner is meant to spin perfectly and endlessly if he's in a dream but the director chose to make it wobble to let the viewer decide on the ending themselves. It's a common trick used in all forms of entertainment and personally I thought it was kind of dirty to do that. Movie was fucking fantastic though.


Yes, the ending was the only shitty moment of that movie.


The ending made people talk about the movie 100 times more than they would have any other way. GOod decision on their part.
Alias-SC2
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2 Posts
July 31 2010 21:18 GMT
#607
Great movie, I recommend to anyone who hasn't seen it. Dont listen to the critics, this movie is intended for the smart audiences.
Insane Mode is My Forte
Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
July 31 2010 21:24 GMT
#608
judging by the comments in this thread though 90% like it and only 15% get it so its still cool even if you don't get it
Nony is Bonjwa
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
July 31 2010 23:16 GMT
#609
On July 31 2010 10:07 hyst.eric.al wrote:
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On July 31 2010 09:39 instantcold wrote:
On July 30 2010 14:29 OneOther wrote:
On July 30 2010 14:27 instantcold wrote:
On July 30 2010 13:05 GunSlinger wrote:
One of the worst movies I have ever seen.

Finally someone with reason

how cool do you feel man

Your probably expecting me to say oh hell ya i do. And my answer is no not really I dont think im that cool. Movie just sucked in my opinion.
i'm actually curious. why do you think it was so bad?

Shhh, you're not supposed to ask; that robs them of their coolness.
Jaedong
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
August 01 2010 00:09 GMT
#610
Why is so difficult for you guys to handle someone criticizing your favourite movie. It doesn't take a genius to find flaws and manipulative patterns in the film.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
August 01 2010 00:42 GMT
#611
i thought it was brilliant and excellently done. the very, very last shot and cut before the credits was a bit too artsy though, it felt a bit forced. other than that, i thoroughly enjoyed it. awesome! i don't think dark knight is even remotely comparable to this.
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Dystisis
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway713 Posts
August 01 2010 01:21 GMT
#612
The movie was based on some ridiculous ideas about "mind" and "consciousness". But besides that, it was entertaining.
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 01:35:43
August 01 2010 01:24 GMT
#613
I just saw the movie to see what all the hubub was about.
I felt I was promised more in the ethics department and the movie failed to deliver for me there. Expectations too high? The acting was spot on. I would have to watch it again though to know if I would recommend it to others. I'm not sure how entertaining I found it.
On July 31 2010 10:43 squaremanhole wrote:
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On July 31 2010 10:36 Hynda wrote:
On July 31 2010 10:12 squaremanhole wrote:
On July 31 2010 09:54 nataziel wrote:
I've got a couple questions >_>

+ Show Spoiler +
So on the third layer Fishcer gets shot by Mal and dies, right? And when he dies he goes into limbo. Then how do Cobb and Ariadne get to limbo by going to sleep? Wouldn't they have to die themselves? And then once they get to limbo how does cobb find saito? Mal stabs him when he's in limbo... so..... he goes into a further limbo?


+ Show Spoiler +
I suppose Fischer going into limbo is equivalent to progressing another level. So by going to sleep, Cobb and Ariadne were meeting him there. I read somewhere about the idea that even though they were supposed to be progressing deeper into Fischer's subconscious, they were simultaneously unraveling more of Cobb's subconscious as well. We know from Cobb's story that limbo is where Cobb and Mal spent fifty years building that huge city. So I guess when Fischer entered into limbo, it was actually linked with Cobb so he ended up there.

I have no idea how in the world Cobb found Saito. Saito dying in the first level makes sense with his being so old in whatever level he ended up on. Cobb's arrival on the beach means that he somehow re-arrived back at his subconscious?

Ok, I only now realize that I'm probably messing up the use of subconscious and limbo so i hope someone else can clear this up.



I have my own question:

When Cobb and Mal entered limbo, where exactly were they? Cobb messed with the spinning top in Mal's childhood house, which was in the middle of the big city (supposed to be limbo right?). Why was her house and her safe there? Does that mean they entered Mal's subconscious? Was that a joint subconscious between Cobb and Mal?

Wtf is going on?!
+ Show Spoiler +
Mal is dead, she was never in the movie. Everytime you see her it's just Cobbs projection of her. I would think the reason for the location in the last place is this. First of all to awnser were they were. They were on the top of a skyscraper in the city that Mal and Cobb made when they were there the first time. The projection of Mal is very very strong in Cobb so when they enter his creation it creates a compromise. They are at the top of a skyscraper so that they can experience a falling sensation (This is what Cobb wanted himself) yet they are in her old house because that's what the projection of Mal wanted.


+ Show Spoiler +
Oh, I'm aware that Mal died before the movie began. I'm talking about in his explaining what he did (spin the top in Mal's safe). It showed him opening the safe in Mal's childhood house in the world that Mal and Cobb were in during their fifty years in limbo. That's what confuses me. How does limbo work out? How come they both could design the place? I thought only the person whose subconscious they were in could do that. For example when Cobb and Ariadne were in Ariadne's subconscious for that "another five minutes", Ariadne could change the world at her own whim.

My questions in the last spoiler were referring to the fifty years of limbo that they shared.

I believe Cobb and Ariadne were in Cobb's subconscious, Ariadne is the architect so she can bend the environment of his dream. However when she does this, she is further interfering with the dream than she already is by being there. This causes Cobb's subconscious to try to expel her.

[QUOTE]On August 01 2010 02:08 gyth wrote:
[quote]+ Show Spoiler +
Uhh what the fuck? No. All the levels belonged to Fischer, they were all his dreams. The idea of the whole movie was to plant an idea in his mind through his dreams, how the hell are you going to do that if it's not his dreams, genius?
[/quote]+ Show Spoiler +
The dreamer controls the dream, the subject populates it. Fischer was the subject of all the dreams, but never the dreamer.

I rather believe that gyth was right all along, every world was populated by Fischer's subconscious so everyone was entering his dreams. However Mal was strangely in all the worlds as well, and Saito is able to dream his own limbo within Fisher's limbo.

I don't think the movie is supposed to make too much sense and I believe most of the other discussions are rather unimportant to the amount of pleasure you should get from watching the movie. Ending with the top was a kick below the belt.
gyth
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
657 Posts
August 01 2010 01:26 GMT
#614
Why is so difficult for you guys to handle someone criticizing your favourite movie.

“The fans are angry, because they love.”
The plural of anecdote is not data.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
August 01 2010 02:02 GMT
#615
On August 01 2010 09:09 Shauni wrote:
Why is so difficult for you guys to handle someone criticizing your favourite movie. It doesn't take a genius to find flaws and manipulative patterns in the film.


You notice that "someone" is only you, mainly because your criticism is extremely biased and/or useless.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 03:59:55
August 01 2010 03:59 GMT
#616
On August 01 2010 09:09 Shauni wrote:
Why is so difficult for you guys to handle someone criticizing your favourite movie. It doesn't take a genius to find flaws and manipulative patterns in the film.

Um, criticism generally explains what they find wrong with it. Why is it so difficult to differentiate between criticism and saying something sucks while insulting people who think otherwise?
Jaedong
Dyllyn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Singapore670 Posts
August 01 2010 04:05 GMT
#617
On August 01 2010 09:09 Shauni wrote:
Why is so difficult for you guys to handle someone criticizing your favourite movie. It doesn't take a genius to find flaws and manipulative patterns in the film.


gentlemen... don't feed the troll.
scv rush ftw
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
August 01 2010 16:07 GMT
#618
On July 25 2010 18:28 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 17:25 Pholon wrote:
On July 25 2010 17:20 Wargizmo wrote:
On July 25 2010 16:52 Highways wrote:
That was one of the best movies I've ever seen. Will definitely watch it for a second when its out on bluray.

Can someone clarify these?

1. Why does the totem never stop spinning in a dream? What is the logic behind this?

2. What is the reason that the levels need to be a maze?


The maze thing was addressed in the film, I believe it's so that only the architect knows the true layout of the dream and the subconcious projections of the other dreamers that populate the dream will have a harder time navigating through it when the shit hits the fan.


Yer they did explain it like this but it had zero effect whatsoever?

also repeating my other question: Why doesn't the no-gravity thing go on in lair 3?


no idea about the no-gravity thing...
i guess it's because the lair 2 people weren't being jerked in any specific direction like their bodies were in lair 1...


The dreams were influenced by the dreamer's vestibular system (the part in the inner ear that is responsible for balance). When the dreamer was pushed around, the world that they were dreaming was consequently pushed (note: the world moves not the people inside). We can see this from when the car rolls, the entire world rolls as well.

When the van is falling, the dreamer feels he is falling, therefore the world he is dreaming is falling as well. Because the world is falling at the same rate as gravity, the result is the same as weightlessness. This is why there appears to be no gravity in the second level.

Now in the second level, the dreamer doesn't feel he is falling or moving at all. As such, the 3rd level doesn't move either. Gravity exists in all levels, but in the second level, its being countered by the fact that the entire world is falling at the same rate.
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 16:14:56
August 01 2010 16:14 GMT
#619
On August 02 2010 01:07 Fen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 18:28 Bisu-Fan wrote:
On July 25 2010 17:25 Pholon wrote:
On July 25 2010 17:20 Wargizmo wrote:
On July 25 2010 16:52 Highways wrote:
That was one of the best movies I've ever seen. Will definitely watch it for a second when its out on bluray.

Can someone clarify these?

1. Why does the totem never stop spinning in a dream? What is the logic behind this?

2. What is the reason that the levels need to be a maze?


The maze thing was addressed in the film, I believe it's so that only the architect knows the true layout of the dream and the subconcious projections of the other dreamers that populate the dream will have a harder time navigating through it when the shit hits the fan.


Yer they did explain it like this but it had zero effect whatsoever?

also repeating my other question: Why doesn't the no-gravity thing go on in lair 3?


no idea about the no-gravity thing...
i guess it's because the lair 2 people weren't being jerked in any specific direction like their bodies were in lair 1...


The dreams were influenced by the dreamer's vestibular system (the part in the inner ear that is responsible for balance). When the dreamer was pushed around, the world that they were dreaming was consequently pushed (note: the world moves not the people inside). We can see this from when the car rolls, the entire world rolls as well.

When the van is falling, the dreamer feels he is falling, therefore the world he is dreaming is falling as well. Because the world is falling at the same rate as gravity, the result is the same as weightlessness. This is why there appears to be no gravity in the second level.

Now in the second level, the dreamer doesn't feel he is falling or moving at all. As such, the 3rd level doesn't move either. Gravity exists in all levels, but in the second level, its being countered by the fact that the entire world is falling at the same rate.


There probably is a difference between "world stays you fall" and "world falls with you", but if you look up "zero-gravity" you'll find that being weightless in space feels EXACTLY like falling. Because of this, I have yet to hear a good explanation for the 3rd level being normal gravity.
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 01 2010 16:41 GMT
#620
Just came back from the cinema. Fucking, really fucking amazing movie. Holy shit, in my eyes that did rape Matrix in every single way. Good job, srsly.
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