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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
January 26 2018 10:15 GMT
#21
entertaining game so far
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
January 26 2018 10:15 GMT
#22
Love the game so far. Action packed, a lot of lane switching. Interesting.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-26 10:19:34
January 26 2018 10:18 GMT
#23
This CK is a big issue for VP. So underfarmed that I doubt he will do anything

VP need big curses from Solo so that Lycan and Abaddon kill some teammates
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
January 26 2018 10:18 GMT
#24
EG is just playing disgusting cancer heroes every game i see
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
January 26 2018 10:19 GMT
#25
The only thing I don't understand is why they sac Ramzes so much, CK has no ability to flash farm and is terrible when played from behind, one of the worst. I guess they expect him to get farm from team fights after he gets 1 or 2 items, but EG will be far ahead and he probably won't be able to fight at all.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
January 26 2018 10:24 GMT
#26
On January 26 2018 19:19 Ramiz1989 wrote:
The only thing I don't understand is why they sac Ramzes so much, CK has no ability to flash farm and is terrible when played from behind, one of the worst. I guess they expect him to get farm from team fights after he gets 1 or 2 items, but EG will be far ahead and he probably won't be able to fight at all.

cause ck's life will suck even if he's farmed i would guess
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
January 26 2018 10:27 GMT
#27
On January 26 2018 19:24 Pontual wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2018 19:19 Ramiz1989 wrote:
The only thing I don't understand is why they sac Ramzes so much, CK has no ability to flash farm and is terrible when played from behind, one of the worst. I guess they expect him to get farm from team fights after he gets 1 or 2 items, but EG will be far ahead and he probably won't be able to fight at all.

cause ck's life will suck even if he's farmed i would guess

Not really, if he is farmed he can tank a lot in team fights and will one-shot any hero that he reality rifts into, like this he is like pos 4 CK.
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
January 26 2018 10:29 GMT
#28
VP trilaned with the CK, they didn't leave him to the wolves. Maybe they didn't anticipate that EG would do as well as they did in the trilane. Also idk if they predicted EG to go aggro with Tinker. Once you start battling 3v3 it's really awkward to do some big lane swaps
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
January 26 2018 10:31 GMT
#29
On January 26 2018 19:27 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2018 19:24 Pontual wrote:
On January 26 2018 19:19 Ramiz1989 wrote:
The only thing I don't understand is why they sac Ramzes so much, CK has no ability to flash farm and is terrible when played from behind, one of the worst. I guess they expect him to get farm from team fights after he gets 1 or 2 items, but EG will be far ahead and he probably won't be able to fight at all.

cause ck's life will suck even if he's farmed i would guess

Not really, if he is farmed he can tank a lot in team fights and will one-shot any hero that he reality rifts into, like this he is like pos 4 CK.

i mean they have aghs on tinker, this prevents a lot of damage, he can't kill fear without him + illusions, so even if he gets bkb it's prolly a bit short on damage.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
January 26 2018 10:31 GMT
#30
On January 26 2018 19:29 spudde123 wrote:
VP trilaned with the CK, they didn't leave him to the wolves. Maybe they didn't anticipate that EG would do as well as they did in the trilane. Also idk if they predicted EG to go aggro with Tinker. Once you start battling 3v3 it's really awkward to do some big lane swaps

But that's the thing, they did 3v3 top, Pasha followed Fear and was #1 on net worth, QoP was a bit behind Abaddon but both did pretty well, then VP's support duo started to 'roam' and not do anything because they couldn't kill anyone, and they left Ramzes 3v1 or 2v1 and he died like 4 times in a row without any support. I don't know, seemed like a really weird move to me.
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babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
January 26 2018 10:33 GMT
#31
CK shows why he's broken if enemy team doesnt have aoe disables lol. Underfarmed yet still 1 shotting carries.

Alright this game depends on lvl 25 qop to carry.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
January 26 2018 10:34 GMT
#32
On January 26 2018 19:31 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2018 19:29 spudde123 wrote:
VP trilaned with the CK, they didn't leave him to the wolves. Maybe they didn't anticipate that EG would do as well as they did in the trilane. Also idk if they predicted EG to go aggro with Tinker. Once you start battling 3v3 it's really awkward to do some big lane swaps

But that's the thing, they did 3v3 top, Pasha followed Fear and was #1 on net worth, QoP was a bit behind Abaddon but both did pretty well, then VP's support duo started to 'roam' and not do anything because they couldn't kill anyone, and they left Ramzes 3v1 or 2v1 and he died like 4 times in a row without any support. I don't know, seemed like a really weird move to me.


I forget what exactly the lane situation was but if my memory serves EG was starting to win the lane and VP couldn't really get aggressive any more. Also Pasha made a move from bot to mid to gank Fear (not sure if this was when Wyvern went bot to take the lane), but it failed
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
January 26 2018 10:36 GMT
#33
lol vp

I swear they have some kinda inside rule/vows about playing only with one hand against EG or something
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
January 26 2018 10:38 GMT
#34
I bet you they underestimated EG because Sumail is not mid anymore
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-26 10:40:37
January 26 2018 10:38 GMT
#35
On January 26 2018 19:36 uthgard wrote:
lol vp

I swear they have some kinda inside rule/vows about playing only with one hand against EG or something

Considering they were against Lycan and Tinker, they didn't play that bad at all, but they fucked up that last fight for sure.

On January 26 2018 19:38 Pontual wrote:
I bet you they underestimated EG because Sumail is not mid anymore

And I can assure you that's not the case cause Noone always talks how EG is their kryptonite and how they want to win against them hard since they always lose in a series.

It's just funny, if you ban Lycan EG will be back to tier 2 team with this lineup, I am not sure why they still want to counter it, you have like 3 bans at the start.
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babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
January 26 2018 10:39 GMT
#36
CIS teams traditionally suck against teams who can push lanes well. Basically the same shit as against OG, yet they whined about OG had no idea how to move around the map lol.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 26 2018 10:41 GMT
#37
Fear Lycan is so sick. 15 minutes he has Necro 1/2 and HoD and just runs and takes a tower or 3 xD

Woop! Come on EG we need these points, close the series out.

Also that Pudge pick was great!
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-26 10:44:55
January 26 2018 10:44 GMT
#38
On January 26 2018 19:41 Pandemona wrote:
Fear Lycan is so sick. 15 minutes he has Necro 1/2 and HoD and just runs and takes a tower or 3 xD

Woop! Come on EG we need these points, close the series out.

Also that Pudge pick was great!

i thought that pudge pick was an ass

it could've been another tanky support hero(ogre) it would've worked and maybe more useful

other than that eg won all lanes and just steamrolled

it's also kinda weird to see rtz offlane tinker that works
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
January 26 2018 10:45 GMT
#39
Also I feel like EG isn't easy to bully out of the game in the laning phase, which VP is able to do against a lot of teams.
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7748 Posts
January 26 2018 10:47 GMT
#40
Why are people so insistent on labeling teams with tiers lul
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