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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On March 02 2016 15:16 bourne117 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 15:13 Two_DoWn wrote:On March 02 2016 15:11 bourne117 wrote:On March 02 2016 15:09 GumBa wrote:
I'm trying to think of a worse esport event I've watched and I I really can't think of one Same here. Especially when you factor in the size of this tournament. Like super small events from 4 years ago with 1/100th the prize pool were able to run better than this without even trying. It's beyond a joke. I think one of the REALLY old MLGs was just as terrible. Cant remember which one though. I think it was like the first second Starcraft 2 MLG. I'm like 99% I know the tourney you are talking about. Was it like the first one where it wasn't at an actual event but in like MLGs own studio without a crowd and you had to like buy a pass or something to watch most of the games? If so it still didn't compare to this shit. I don't remember any other event having the stream constantly going down in the middle of games.
No I remember it. This was worse in everything except caster.
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Think I watched that MLG aswell, if it was the one where the whole stream audience ended up watching a livestream from a bald eagle's nest or something along those lines.
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lol, same drafts happening?
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On March 02 2016 15:18 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 15:16 bourne117 wrote:On March 02 2016 15:13 Two_DoWn wrote:On March 02 2016 15:11 bourne117 wrote:On March 02 2016 15:09 GumBa wrote:
I'm trying to think of a worse esport event I've watched and I I really can't think of one Same here. Especially when you factor in the size of this tournament. Like super small events from 4 years ago with 1/100th the prize pool were able to run better than this without even trying. It's beyond a joke. I think one of the REALLY old MLGs was just as terrible. Cant remember which one though. I think it was like the first second Starcraft 2 MLG. I'm like 99% I know the tourney you are talking about. Was it like the first one where it wasn't at an actual event but in like MLGs own studio without a crowd and you had to like buy a pass or something to watch most of the games? If so it still didn't compare to this shit. I don't remember any other event having the stream constantly going down in the middle of games. No, pretty sure he's talking about MLG Dallas. Of course, I think the entire city's networking failed during that. Infamous eagle stream.
decorah eagle hype
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dota 2 english stream for the major has leveled up! Levels of failure: 6
skilled up False Promise[s]
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On March 02 2016 15:18 wims80 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 15:14 zdarr wrote:
Remember only the english stream fails, and all the other one run just fine... Can't really blame the major on that one
For once i'd watch a french stream if there was one working We can blame Valve for hosting a major in fucking communist china
they're so far removed from communist at this point
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On March 02 2016 15:18 Khz wrote:
Think I watched that MLG aswell, if it was the one where the whole stream audience ended up watching a livestream from a bald eagle's nest or something along those lines.
iirc nazgul was competing and lost to idra?
lol
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On March 02 2016 15:16 zdarr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 15:15 Azarkon wrote:On March 02 2016 15:13 Acritter wrote:
anyone else remember that post from the translator during the group stages?
basically, she said that the equipment was all shit
considering the difficulties involved in moving a complete production studio across an ocean, I think it might be that the new crew got the same garbage
in other words, the reason the chinese stream is perfect and the english stream is awful is because pw put serious money into the chinese stream and got the lowest bidder for english
what a wonderful world But why would Russia be fine. And sweden?
The Swedish stream is casting from Sweden via the ingame ticket. China has no control over what happens in the ticket
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imo after this event there are two big questions: what the chinese scene does, and what valve does
I really don't think the chinese scene will do much of anything, because from the chinese perspective the event has been running pretty solid minus some delays. it's possible that there's a lot of embarrassment, but I don't see that as changing much thanks to face-saving culture
valve is a bit more up in the air, because this is a major (pun intended) blow to their corporate image. there's no fucking way they just let perfect world get away with this kind of disgrace, and it's very possible that they'll put out an ultimatum of either getting complete control over the event or moving it away to america or europe
this will certainly affect manila, and I think that event might end up running much better thanks to some strong-arming from valve
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On March 02 2016 15:17 TheTenthDoc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 15:15 Azarkon wrote:On March 02 2016 15:13 Acritter wrote:
anyone else remember that post from the translator during the group stages?
basically, she said that the equipment was all shit
considering the difficulties involved in moving a complete production studio across an ocean, I think it might be that the new crew got the same garbage
in other words, the reason the chinese stream is perfect and the english stream is awful is because pw put serious money into the chinese stream and got the lowest bidder for english
what a wonderful world But why would Russia be fine. IIRC Russian production is contracted out to the same people like every tournament English production right now is a hodgepodge team assembled after sacking some incompetents Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 15:16 bourne117 wrote:On March 02 2016 15:13 Two_DoWn wrote:On March 02 2016 15:11 bourne117 wrote:On March 02 2016 15:09 GumBa wrote:
I'm trying to think of a worse esport event I've watched and I I really can't think of one Same here. Especially when you factor in the size of this tournament. Like super small events from 4 years ago with 1/100th the prize pool were able to run better than this without even trying. It's beyond a joke. I think one of the REALLY old MLGs was just as terrible. Cant remember which one though. I think it was like the first second Starcraft 2 MLG. I'm like 99% I know the tourney you are talking about. Was it like the first one where it wasn't at an actual event but in like MLGs own studio without a crowd and you had to like buy a pass or something to watch most of the games? If so it still didn't compare to this shit. I don't remember any other event having the stream constantly going down in the middle of games. I think that one tourney in rural China had pretty frequent English mid-game stream drops and super long pauses
So you're saying the Americans outsourced the jobs.
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On March 02 2016 15:19 lolnoty wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 15:18 wims80 wrote:On March 02 2016 15:14 zdarr wrote:
Remember only the english stream fails, and all the other one run just fine... Can't really blame the major on that one
For once i'd watch a french stream if there was one working We can blame Valve for hosting a major in fucking communist china they're so far removed from communist at this point
I agree about that, not that they ever was about communism. It was always about fascism with a very strong political elite controlling everything and holding their own population hostage
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It's strange s4 still hasn't picked EGM's Wisp
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On March 02 2016 15:20 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 15:17 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 02 2016 15:15 Azarkon wrote:On March 02 2016 15:13 Acritter wrote:
anyone else remember that post from the translator during the group stages?
basically, she said that the equipment was all shit
considering the difficulties involved in moving a complete production studio across an ocean, I think it might be that the new crew got the same garbage
in other words, the reason the chinese stream is perfect and the english stream is awful is because pw put serious money into the chinese stream and got the lowest bidder for english
what a wonderful world But why would Russia be fine. IIRC Russian production is contracted out to the same people like every tournament English production right now is a hodgepodge team assembled after sacking some incompetents On March 02 2016 15:16 bourne117 wrote:On March 02 2016 15:13 Two_DoWn wrote:On March 02 2016 15:11 bourne117 wrote:On March 02 2016 15:09 GumBa wrote:
I'm trying to think of a worse esport event I've watched and I I really can't think of one Same here. Especially when you factor in the size of this tournament. Like super small events from 4 years ago with 1/100th the prize pool were able to run better than this without even trying. It's beyond a joke. I think one of the REALLY old MLGs was just as terrible. Cant remember which one though. I think it was like the first second Starcraft 2 MLG. I'm like 99% I know the tourney you are talking about. Was it like the first one where it wasn't at an actual event but in like MLGs own studio without a crowd and you had to like buy a pass or something to watch most of the games? If so it still didn't compare to this shit. I don't remember any other event having the stream constantly going down in the middle of games. I think that one tourney in rural China had pretty frequent English mid-game stream drops and super long pauses So you're saying the Americans outsourced the jobs.
we need trump
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I really can't possibly explain just how much I'm enjoying how fucking trash everything about this event is
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build the memes 10 feet higher
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On March 02 2016 15:20 Acritter wrote:
imo after this event there are two big questions: what the chinese scene does, and what valve does
I really don't think the chinese scene will do much of anything, because from the chinese perspective the event has been running pretty solid minus some delays. it's possible that there's a lot of embarrassment, but I don't see that as changing much thanks to face-saving culture
valve is a bit more up in the air, because this is a major (pun intended) blow to their corporate image. there's no fucking way they just let perfect world get away with this kind of disgrace, and it's very possible that they'll put out an ultimatum of either getting complete control over the event or moving it away to america or europe
this will certainly affect manila, and I think that event might end up running much better thanks to some strong-arming from valve
Honestly, i'll be surprised if Valve sticks with PW after this mess.
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I -really- hope that MVP.Phoenix will destroy LGD like they did EHOME and Secret. Those guys are so awesome.
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On March 02 2016 15:20 Acritter wrote:
imo after this event there are two big questions: what the chinese scene does, and what valve does
I really don't think the chinese scene will do much of anything, because from the chinese perspective the event has been running pretty solid minus some delays. it's possible that there's a lot of embarrassment, but I don't see that as changing much thanks to face-saving culture
valve is a bit more up in the air, because this is a major (pun intended) blow to their corporate image. there's no fucking way they just let perfect world get away with this kind of disgrace, and it's very possible that they'll put out an ultimatum of either getting complete control over the event or moving it away to america or europe
this will certainly affect manila, and I think that event might end up running much better thanks to some strong-arming from valve
Valve can just hire a better production company. Bring in KR team, Mineski team from SEA, even that one chinese team that did that kickstarter event was pretty good iirc.
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EPT
