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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 08 2013 02:11 GMT
#5501
On August 08 2013 11:10 sabaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 11:01 Azarkon wrote:
Today has been within what I thought.

Fnatic losing to TF was simply a second-tier EU team losing to a first-tier Chinese team.

Na'Vi dropping a game to Orange... Meh, it's Na'Vi.

Dignitas winning RattleSnakes simply shows Western tier 2 teams are still > Chinese tier 2 teams.

IMO this bodes well for Na'Vi and Alliance finals.



Then how do you explain RattleSnake>Quantic?


QUANTIC BAD TIER 3 TEAM
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 08 2013 02:11 GMT
#5502
On August 08 2013 11:10 sabaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 11:01 Azarkon wrote:
Today has been within what I thought.

Fnatic losing to TF was simply a second-tier EU team losing to a first-tier Chinese team.

Na'Vi dropping a game to Orange... Meh, it's Na'Vi.

Dignitas winning RattleSnakes simply shows Western tier 2 teams are still > Chinese tier 2 teams.

IMO this bodes well for Na'Vi and Alliance finals.



Then how do you explain RattleSnake>Quantic?

Goblak did not draft à la goblak or the French played poorly tbh.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
August 08 2013 02:11 GMT
#5503
On August 08 2013 11:10 sabaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 11:01 Azarkon wrote:
Today has been within what I thought.

Fnatic losing to TF was simply a second-tier EU team losing to a first-tier Chinese team.

Na'Vi dropping a game to Orange... Meh, it's Na'Vi.

Dignitas winning RattleSnakes simply shows Western tier 2 teams are still > Chinese tier 2 teams.

IMO this bodes well for Na'Vi and Alliance finals.



Then how do you explain RattleSnake>Quantic?


Obviously Chinese tier 3 teams > Western tier 3 teams

Also, welcome to TL
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 02:12:36
August 08 2013 02:12 GMT
#5504
On August 08 2013 11:10 Seraphic wrote:
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On August 08 2013 11:08 Prplppleatr wrote:
She is very good at interviews....professional training works well, people can always tell someone what to ask

/impressed


She is a professional from FOX News. Despite how much I dislike FOX New's biased opinions, she is worthy of being followed on Twitter.

GJ Valve me likey


She is not from the Fox News you are thinking of. this fox is a local affiliate in the area.
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
August 08 2013 02:12 GMT
#5505
On August 08 2013 11:10 wurm wrote:
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On August 08 2013 11:08 Kishin2 wrote:
Proof of the lack of Luo bkb.

That no one there is pointing out for some reason.


He had a BKB. Just wasn't using when he was supposed too. Always got insta-sheeped even after Naga sleep.

Yes, that's what I meant. If you don't use it you practically don't even have it. A fundamental mistake that pretty much cost them the game.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 08 2013 02:12 GMT
#5506
Poll: Head?

LGD International (93)
 
72%

mousesports (36)
 
28%

129 total votes

Your vote: Head?

(Vote): LGD International
(Vote): mousesports


Poll: Heart?

mousesports (78)
 
57%

LGD International (60)
 
43%

138 total votes

Your vote: Heart?

(Vote): LGD International
(Vote): mousesports

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superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
August 08 2013 02:13 GMT
#5507
On August 08 2013 11:10 hootsushi wrote:
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On August 08 2013 11:08 Kabras wrote:
That game is all on Luo, and probably the weaver pick which was completely useless. But they lost the whole game in that first fight mid when Luo never used his bkb and died to Timbersaw nukes in 2 seconds. He had a fucking naga song for a setup, he had satanic and bfly, a 10 second bkb and he never used it. On top of that he had no buyback which costed them all the outer towers. Don't get too hyped about dignitas, they didn't do anything special, Luo lost that himself by taking all the farm on the map and not being able to hit the bkb button when he had to. im not hating on dignitas, im just mad at the horrible play out of Rsnake.


Probably thought to himself to keep his BKB until necessary, because they wouldn't focus him early. Atleast I didn't think he gets blown up in two seconds. In the end, Luo had a missplay yes, but it doesn't excuse the fact that his team was useless after the 20 minute mark.


What? Luo had all the farm while his team was getting ganked by wisp nonstop. That's standard 4 protect 1 comp; Luo fucked up. That's all there was to it.
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
August 08 2013 02:13 GMT
#5508
On August 08 2013 11:10 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 11:09 opterown wrote:
On August 08 2013 11:07 Azarkon wrote:
On August 08 2013 11:04 FateCypher wrote:
On August 08 2013 11:01 Azarkon wrote:
Today has been within what I thought.

Fnatic losing to TF was simply a second-tier EU team losing to a first-tier Chinese team.

Na'Vi dropping a game to Orange... Meh, it's Na'Vi.

Dignitas winning RattleSnakes simply shows Western tier 2 teams are still > Chinese tier 2 teams.

IMO this bodes well for Na'Vi and Alliance finals.



So Na'Vi and Alliance are the tier 1 teams? who else would you label as Tier 1 Westerns?


There are no other. Presently Na'Vi and Alliance are the only Tier 1 Western teams.

then LGD is the only chinese tier 1 team, the others are far too inconsistent


LGD that went 6-6 in groups before Day 3 and narrowly avoided a loss to Dignitas in the tiebreakers? Okay.

...

Yeah, because we label teams based on their TI performance. You even didn't get what opretown was implying.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
August 08 2013 02:13 GMT
#5509
Brax is so cool.
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
August 08 2013 02:13 GMT
#5510
Yeahhhhh Dignitas!

Though I am worried about how far they can go with such a shaky performance...
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
August 08 2013 02:13 GMT
#5511
I like how Azarkon use a Bo1 of Dignitas vs RS to say Western Tier 2 >>>> Chinese Tier 2.
That logic.
Play your best
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
August 08 2013 02:13 GMT
#5512
On August 08 2013 11:11 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 11:07 Azarkon wrote:
On August 08 2013 11:06 superstartran wrote:
On August 08 2013 11:04 Vallelol wrote:
On August 08 2013 11:03 superstartran wrote:
On August 08 2013 11:03 Azarkon wrote:
On August 08 2013 11:02 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On August 08 2013 11:01 Azarkon wrote:
Today has been within what I thought.

Fnatic losing to TF was simply a second-tier EU team losing to a first-tier Chinese team.

Na'Vi dropping a game to Orange... Meh, it's Na'Vi.

Dignitas winning RattleSnakes simply shows Western tier 2 teams are still > Chinese tier 2 teams.

IMO this bodes well for Na'Vi and Alliance finals.

RSnakes are 2.5 - 3rd tier in China.



They're tier 2, lest you want to argue TF is tier 2.

They're around the same level that Rising Stars and VG is.



Which are 3rd tier teams.


not quiet sure what Tier 2 teams are then, basically Rising Stars and VG are right behind LGD, IG, TongFu, DK which are all t1



LGD/iG/DK are the tier 1 teams.

Tongfu is the only 2nd tier team, although they are now pushing their way into tier 1. Prior to D2SL though, they definitely were not a tier 1 team.


TF is in no way a 2nd tier team.

They won DSL 3-0 against DK, and go even vs. every top Chinese team.



Prior to DSL no one would even put Tongfu close to tier 1. Flash in the pan performance does not make you a tier 1 team. Consistent performance across a long stretch of time does.


tongfu had really good results. semi finale g-league, narrowly missed g1, won DSL in a dominant fashion.
tongfu and LGD are the two teams to look out for.
A Wet Shamwow
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1590 Posts
August 08 2013 02:13 GMT
#5513
On August 08 2013 11:12 Kishin2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 11:10 wurm wrote:
On August 08 2013 11:08 Kishin2 wrote:
Proof of the lack of Luo bkb.

That no one there is pointing out for some reason.


He had a BKB. Just wasn't using when he was supposed too. Always got insta-sheeped even after Naga sleep.

Yes, that's what I meant. If you don't use it you practically don't even have it. A fundamental mistake that pretty much cost them the game.

It makes me wonder why they didn't put LanM on such an important hero.
“Life is a gamble, at terrible odds. If it were a bet you wouldn’t take it.”
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 02:14:08
August 08 2013 02:14 GMT
#5514
Brax sounds like he's in some sort of hippie product commercial.
Once you Goblak...
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 08 2013 02:14 GMT
#5515
This guy has the personality of a cardboard box.

Nice hair, though,
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
djaoni
Profile Joined August 2013
112 Posts
August 08 2013 02:14 GMT
#5516
On August 08 2013 11:13 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 11:10 Azarkon wrote:
On August 08 2013 11:09 opterown wrote:
On August 08 2013 11:07 Azarkon wrote:
On August 08 2013 11:04 FateCypher wrote:
On August 08 2013 11:01 Azarkon wrote:
Today has been within what I thought.

Fnatic losing to TF was simply a second-tier EU team losing to a first-tier Chinese team.

Na'Vi dropping a game to Orange... Meh, it's Na'Vi.

Dignitas winning RattleSnakes simply shows Western tier 2 teams are still > Chinese tier 2 teams.

IMO this bodes well for Na'Vi and Alliance finals.



So Na'Vi and Alliance are the tier 1 teams? who else would you label as Tier 1 Westerns?


There are no other. Presently Na'Vi and Alliance are the only Tier 1 Western teams.

then LGD is the only chinese tier 1 team, the others are far too inconsistent


LGD that went 6-6 in groups before Day 3 and narrowly avoided a loss to Dignitas in the tiebreakers? Okay.

...

Yeah, because we label teams based on their TI performance. You even didn't get what opretown was implying.


We rank them based on the last 30 minutes played.

Rattlesnake is tier 6 eastern, Dignitas tier 1 western.

Right?
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
August 08 2013 02:14 GMT
#5517
RS lsot that fight because their gyro forgot to turn on bkb after the sleep and got hexed right away by the furion.

satanic butterfly couldn't be used.

Why you no carry your team?
We decide our own destiny
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
August 08 2013 02:15 GMT
#5518
lol does LGD.int only recruit in European capitals?
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
August 08 2013 02:15 GMT
#5519
"Mom you should be here. I miss you"

adorable
IPT.PromilKid: I'm only good at Marvel
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
August 08 2013 02:15 GMT
#5520
Per Anders <3
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
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