On August 11 2013 07:19 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Do the chinese have problem with leadership in their teams? It's like no-one wants to take an initiative in these games.

Chinese teams have a tendency to be cautious to the point of suicide. It's just how they usually play.

EchoZ

Japan5041 Posts

August 10 2013 22:20 GMT

#2242

Well, i'm watching this game from Ferrari's perspective so its an interesting experience.

clusen

Germany8702 Posts

August 10 2013 22:21 GMT

#2243

On August 11 2013 07:20 IshinShishi wrote:
tbh only chinese teams die in this awfully stupid way in which they just seem to keep on damaging themselves with how they play, it's as if they have vain hopes that god will come and somehow take them out of their misery and deliver a miraculous victory.

?
Na'Vi is pretty good at that, too

r.Evo

Germany14081 Posts

August 10 2013 22:21 GMT

#2244

This would have been the time for BKB Rapier kill rax within 10s kind of stuff but TongFu isn't at that level yet. They not crazy enough.

Fusilero

United Kingdom50293 Posts

August 10 2013 22:21 GMT

#2245

Check out survivalist faith.

739

Bearded Elder29905 Posts

August 10 2013 22:21 GMT

#2246

LOL Faith didn't die a single time in 60 min game >D

Yoshi-

Germany10227 Posts

August 10 2013 22:21 GMT

#2247

On August 11 2013 07:19 toemn wrote:
Alchemist buy two rapiers, new BKB, tp into base with weaver and kill ancient while bkb is active.

And where should they tp?

Caesarion

Australia8332 Posts

August 10 2013 22:21 GMT

#2248

Faith has NO deaths. What a player.

DDie

Brazil2369 Posts

August 10 2013 22:21 GMT

#2249

I have to say I'm impressed with tobi, this is the kind of game that he fails hard at casting, but he's doing a good job.

grs

Germany2339 Posts

August 10 2013 22:21 GMT

#2250

I already cast my vote: "If you have time..."

EchoZ

Japan5041 Posts

August 10 2013 22:21 GMT

#2251

Chuan is level 13 lol..

toemn

Germany915 Posts

August 10 2013 22:21 GMT

#2252

On August 11 2013 07:21 Yoshi- wrote:

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And where should they tp?

Denar

France1633 Posts

August 10 2013 22:21 GMT

#2253

On August 11 2013 07:20 DwD wrote:
I'm just praying so hard that IG somehow wins this so we don't get a third game... Been waiting all night for Alliance vs Navi lol

Same here, and there's no way I can stay awake through another game similar to this one...

Scio

Germany522 Posts

August 10 2013 22:21 GMT

#2254

On August 11 2013 07:21 Yoshi- wrote:

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And where should they tp?

beastmaster hawk

stuchiu

Fiddler's Green42661 Posts

August 10 2013 22:21 GMT

#2255

On August 11 2013 07:21 DDie wrote:
I have to say I'm impressed with tobi, this is the kind of game that he fails hard at casting, but he's doing a good job.

He has yet to rile the crowd to openly boo the players. I'm impressed.

juff

Singapore4659 Posts

August 10 2013 22:21 GMT

#2256

+ Show Spoiler +

Invictus Gaming vs. TongFu
1 : 0
The International 2013 Lower Bracket Round 4B Game 2

TONGFU:

(Hao), (Mu), (KingJ), (Banana), (SanSheng)

INVICTUS GAMING:

(Zhou), (Ferrari), (YYF), (Chuan), (Faith)

TOP

MID

BOT

1:30 BM gets caught, body blocked and gives up first blood.

1 : 0

-- Morph losing mid badly: 9/4 vs Weaver's 24/10

4:30 Radiant T1 goes down.
- Chen goes mid with a troll trap but Weaver (who has a bracer) escapes.

7:50 Prophet gets Midas.
- Radiant push as 5 at bot.
- BM manages to deny it but dies.

10:45 Alch gets Battlefury

2 : 0

Radiant up 1 tower.

13:20 Storm jumps in and kills Leshrac at top.
- Dire Top T1 goes down.

14:20 Alch gets Shadow Blade.

-- Alch 11k, Storm 5.9k, Weaver 5.6k, Morph 5.5k

16:10 Dire Mid T1 is traded for Radiant Bot T1.

3 : 0

Radiant up 1 tower.

17:20 Alch gets BKB.
- Prophet gets Shadow Blade
- Storm gets Orchid.

18:20 Dire gets Rosh, Weaver gets Aegis.

19:00 Storm jumps in with orchid and pops the aegis.
- Chen gets picked off on the retreat.
- Morph gets roared but escapes.

20:30 Weaver gets BKB.

21:20 Storm barely survives at top lane with Hand of God and TPs out.
- Prophet takes down the Dire Bot T2.

22:10 Radiant Mid T1 goes down.

22:40 Dire Top T2 gets denied.
- Morph gets E-blade

24:00 Alch gets AC.
- Morph gets Roared and dies in mid.
- Radiant Mid T2 goes down.

-- Alch already at 800 gpm.

3 : 2

Radiant have T2 Top and Bot, Dire have T2 mid.

27:40 Dire push bot and get the T2
- Dire push base
- Dire Mid T2 goes down to split push.

28:50 Alch gets Basher
- Dire smoke into ROSH, but fall back to defend as Radiant push into their top base.
- Radiant escape safely.

30:30 Dire get ROSH, Leshrac gets Aegis, Alch finishes Abyssal
- Weaver gets soloed by Storm in the jungle
- Prophet gets Scythe.

32:00 Alch finds Prophet in the Radiant jungle and kills him.

4 : 3

Radiant has Top T2, Dire has no outer towers.

33:00 Dire push mid
- Storm gets roared, dies and buys back
- Leshrac gets pulled in and dies twice
- Weaver dies to shotgun.

36:00 Dire push mid again
- Radiant lose Melee rax
- Dire back out with no casualties.

6 : 4

-- Storm has Linkens, Ghost, Morph has Linken's, Alch has BoTs, Weaver has Linken's

-- Alch 32k, Prophet 17k, Morph 15.7k, Storm 14.7k, Weaver 13k

40:40 Dire gets Rosh, Weaver gets Aegis, BM gets Cheese.

6 : 4

Radiant up 1 tower.

43:30 Alch finds Morph in the jungle and almost kills him, but hand of god lets him escape.

-- Prophet has MKB

44:40 Dire push bot.
- BM gets pulled in and shotgunned.
- Leshrac & SD die on the retreat.

46:20 Alch swaps shadow blade for Heart.

47:30 Morph gets Skadi.

49:20 Dire take down the mid range rax
- Leshrac gets shotgunned.
- SD & BM die on retreat.

12 : 4

Radianthave Top T2 but lost mid rax.

50:40 Weaver gets MKB
- Storm gets Scythe
- BM gets Blink

51:35 Dire take ROSH. Weaver takes Aegis.
- Leshrac gets Cheese
- Prophet gets Halberd.

54:20 Morph gets Eaglesong
-- Morph shotgun (no waveform) now at 1393 damage.

54:40 Prophet gets Roared at top and dies.
-- Dire get their first kill in 21:00 minutes.
-- Alch has 12k gold in bank.

56:20 Dire push Bot
- Weaver loses Aegis but Alch takes down 3 and the Bot T3.
- Radiant buys back and kills everyone but Weaver.

57:40 Weaver & Morph get Butterfly.

58:50 Alch swaps Battlefury for MKB.

59:50 Prophet gets Daedalus.

16 : 8

Radiant down 1 tower and mid rax

Porkz

Denmark1027 Posts

August 10 2013 22:22 GMT

#2257

Casual 40 armor on Zhou

DwD

Sweden8621 Posts

August 10 2013 22:22 GMT

#2258

How does Beast Master have brown boots at 60 minutes into the game? Lmao.

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

August 10 2013 22:22 GMT

#2259

On August 11 2013 07:20 TheYango wrote:

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No, because iG can potentially use a triple buyback fight to take the Rapier if you try to all-in push. Triple buyback in exchange for a rapier and killing Alch is a net gain for iG that would put them back in the game in that scenario, and a well-coordinated fight there is actually probably enough to win even against Aegis+Rapier Alch.

They can actually kill Aegis Alchemist with 6 items, one of them being Rapier, even with 3 buybacks? They have nothing that goes through BKB.

In my opinion if you don't go for an allin like that there, at least try, then you just lose 100%. Like they are doing now.