As long as Mushi doesn't tilt and his team plays up to par they have a very good chance of beating Navi and Alliance back to back. I think alot of people underrate how good Mushi really is. Mushi could probably outlane S4 on almost any hero, and that's saying alot considering S4 is one of the most dominating mid players in the game.

They have the play skill to win, but they are going to get severely outdrafted by Na'Vi. Puppey has made very few missteps and punished weak lineups very aggressively at TI3. Na'Vi won't get surprised and they will pounce if given the slightest opportunity. I'm assuming at least one game will be a throwaway and they'll need to play with a lot of heart to win the other two (is it a Bo3 or Bo5?).

If they make it to the finals, well...then I think the opposite is true. They'll have to pull out some really unconventional strats to win, which I believe they can do. They have a better shot versus Alliance than Na'Vi IMO.

RiZu

Singapore5715 Posts

August 11 2013 09:58 GMT

#6243

Apparently Orange only scrimmed against Zenith and lost every matches. SEA rebanding as one <3

Kuroeeah

11696 Posts

August 11 2013 10:05 GMT

#6244

On August 11 2013 18:58 RiZu wrote:
Apparently Orange only scrimmed against Zenith and lost every matches. SEA rebanding as one <3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVf1CYW7L_w

Honestly Orange stepped up their game. Coming into the tournament from the prelims I expected their placement to be the same as it was during Ti2. A team to make it to the upper bracket, lose and lose again for a top 8 finish.

If Orange was still the same team as they entered the tournament, than I would be right but they're not. They looked stronger, drafted better and outplayed teams that were expected to make short work of them. They did it with flair, their play is exciting and you can tell from the team's emotions that they're so god damn happy to win everytime they narrowly make it out on the brink of elimination. Orange became a team that I can't help but root for...but I don't believe they can take it all the way

Ramiz1989

12124 Posts

August 11 2013 10:09 GMT

#6245

Now, all Na`Vi needs to do is to win Orange/TongFu, get back into the finals, and play the best games of their lives, and I don't even care who wins(I would like Na`Vi of course, but I like Alliance too). Oh, and I hope that Alliance will not pick PL and/or Naga...

Kuroeeah

11696 Posts

August 11 2013 10:11 GMT

#6246

On August 11 2013 19:09 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Now, all Na`Vi needs to do is to win Orange/TongFu, get back into the finals, and play the best games of their lives, and I don't even care who wins(I would like Na`Vi of course, but I like Alliance too). Oh, and I hope that Alliance will not pick PL and/or Naga...

Alliance will definitely pick their Naga and would resort to a KOTL+PL.

Ramiz1989

12124 Posts

August 11 2013 10:16 GMT

#6247

On August 11 2013 19:11 Kuroeeah wrote:

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Alliance will definitely pick their Naga and would resort to a KOTL+PL.

I know, that is what I am afraid of, because it leads to such boring style. That is the reason Na`Vi decided to not be as aggressive as versus other teams, because Naga destroys that aggression. And PL is... just PL.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

August 11 2013 10:18 GMT

#6248

Orange just realized that seadoto and rat dota are 2 approaches to the same thing, and just returned to their roots.

Kuroeeah

11696 Posts

August 11 2013 10:22 GMT

#6249

If Sea Doto can shine, when do you guys think the year of the Pinoy would be? :3

smr

Germany4808 Posts

August 11 2013 10:29 GMT

#6250

I hope they pick naga. EGM naga is from another planet.

cupoftealove

325 Posts

August 11 2013 10:34 GMT

#6251

On August 11 2013 18:11 Tomca wrote:
How many viewers were watching? Was there peak mentioned?

I got about 650k during Alliance vs Navi, with 265k from Twitch (excluding hall and pods), 160k Fengyunzhibo, 226k DotaTV. It's not complete since I'm missing Highwinds, which alot of people got directed to from the Dota 2 website and I don't know how to see the viewer count for that. Then there's also other chinese sites which I'm not familiar with plus Swedish and Chinese TV I guess. If Navi play Alliance again in the Grand Finals then it could go even higher, but then again it'll be Monday morning for Asians and past midnight on a sunday for Europeans.

Asha

United Kingdom38257 Posts

August 11 2013 10:34 GMT

#6252

Wow Orange! Very happy for them. Had to call it a night after navi vs A because I was literally falling asleep in my chair, guess I should go watch some VODs!

Yoshi-

Germany10227 Posts

August 11 2013 11:34 GMT

#6253

Lets hope that we will see less stompy games today, so far the event has been rather lackluster, compared to the other 2 years.

ArchDC

Malaysia1996 Posts

August 11 2013 12:00 GMT

#6254

Orange Orange Orange

FueledUpAndReadyToGo

Netherlands30548 Posts

August 11 2013 12:05 GMT

#6255

Yes Orange won! I fell asleep lol. Orange vs Navi is going to be insane!

Gheizen64

Italy2077 Posts

August 11 2013 13:20 GMT

#6256

On August 11 2013 13:59 Shaella wrote:
Can I not just hate in peace!?

I feel you, i'm angry i can't hate n**** for no reason.

Colston

Norway279 Posts

August 11 2013 15:30 GMT

#6257

On August 11 2013 18:07 Zinbiel wrote:

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To me S4's strength is not in his laning as much as the way he works as a playmaker for alliance as soon as the laning stage breaks down. Especially with blink dagger on heroes like puck and bat. It isn't a huge surprise to me that alliance's only loss this tournament was a game where he played DK (and xiao8 BM and burning AM played godlike dota ofc).

Mushi is definitely one of the best players in the world when he is on his game though, capable of dictating the pace of the game as well or maybe even better than S4 is.

Agree, Mushi is really good when he's on form.

Is his team comparable to Alliance though? That's the question we might get answered tonight, but I don't think they will be able to take down Na'Vi if I'm going to be honest.