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Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-12 14:55:47
March 12 2012 14:55 GMT
#1961
While Daedalus may give more raw dps, I feel like MKB is the more staple item and anti-carry item in general due to True Strike, and that is one of the reasons why it is seen more in competitive play.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 12 2012 15:20 GMT
#1962
On March 12 2012 22:06 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 22:03 ilovelings wrote:
"it serves to magnify that difference"

hence i'm right because I said that it scaled better.

Except it doesn't magnify things in just the case where Buriza is better. It magnifies the DPS difference in situations where MKB is better as well.

When Buriza gives more DPS, armor reduction magnifies the difference. When MKB gives more DPS, armor reduction also magnifies that difference. Armor reduction doesn't favor any source of physical damage over another.


It has almost no impact since it applies to both cases as you said. It merely shifts the graph doesn't change of the intersection points by anything significant
arthur
Profile Joined April 2009
United Kingdom488 Posts
March 12 2012 15:34 GMT
#1963
In Dota2 to smart cast, you press alt+q/w/e/r... Is there a way to change this to shift? I'm to used to LoL...
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Canola
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada159 Posts
March 12 2012 15:34 GMT
#1964
Simple question: does Leshrac's Pulse Nova still do damage when he is cyclone'd by Eul's?
Gnaix
Profile Joined February 2009
United States438 Posts
March 12 2012 16:05 GMT
#1965
On March 13 2012 00:34 arthur wrote:
In Dota2 to smart cast, you press alt+q/w/e/r... Is there a way to change this to shift? I'm to used to LoL...

shift is used to queue commands though, so it might conflict with smart cast.
one thing that sc2 has over bw is the fact that I can actually manage my hotkeys
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 12 2012 16:31 GMT
#1966
On March 13 2012 00:34 arthur wrote:
In Dota2 to smart cast, you press alt+q/w/e/r... Is there a way to change this to shift? I'm to used to LoL...

There is no smart cast the way it works in LoL.

Alt+QWER defaults to autocast toggle, which isn't the same thing.
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CaptainPlatypus
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States852 Posts
March 12 2012 18:34 GMT
#1967
On March 13 2012 00:34 Canola wrote:
Simple question: does Leshrac's Pulse Nova still do damage when he is cyclone'd by Eul's?

No, but it doesn't consume mana in that state either.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
March 16 2012 05:07 GMT
#1968
Not sure how to word it, so sorry if the wording is a little strange:

Which heroes should get Ethereal Blade? And by 'should', I mean as a luxury, possibly situational. I know Morphling is good, and I've tried it on Mirana and Bloodseeker, but which other heroes are there?
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 16 2012 05:24 GMT
#1969
Possibly Luna.
WriterXiao8~~
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 16 2012 05:30 GMT
#1970
On March 16 2012 14:07 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Not sure how to word it, so sorry if the wording is a little strange:

Which heroes should get Ethereal Blade? And by 'should', I mean as a luxury, possibly situational. I know Morphling is good, and I've tried it on Mirana and Bloodseeker, but which other heroes are there?

Terrorblade when he comes out. My favorite pubbuild is blink dagon ethereal blade, always oneshots everything.


More "seriously", give Nevermore and Meepo a try.
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MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
March 16 2012 05:35 GMT
#1971
How do you get better at last hitting?
Life's good :D
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 05:46:55
March 16 2012 05:45 GMT
#1972
in a serious game pretty much just morph
it's okay on tinker, magina, na, sa, maybe a few more
it's funny on od, jugger, sf, pugna, luna, meepo, and maybe a few more, but it's not particularly good

edit^ just play practice games solo or against bots
try to get 25/25 by 5 minutes or 60/60 by 10
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
March 16 2012 06:34 GMT
#1973
On March 16 2012 14:35 MaV_gGSC wrote:
How do you get better at last hitting?


Practice. Muscle memory. Know the attack speed of the hero you're playing.

If it's a melee, practice last hitting without a blade. If you're ranged, get close to the creeps so your hit lands when you want it to. Don't turn off auto attack. Know which creep your hero will attack if you DO auto attack. etc etc etc. There's probably some video guides out there, but playing more is generally the best way to practice last hitting.

correct me if any of this is wrong, anyone
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 06:58:52
March 16 2012 06:45 GMT
#1974
On March 16 2012 14:45 Dead9 wrote:
in a serious game pretty much just morph
it's okay on tinker, magina, na, sa, maybe a few more
it's funny on od, jugger, sf, pugna, luna, meepo, and maybe a few more, but it's not particularly good

edit^ just play practice games solo or against bots
try to get 25/25 by 5 minutes or 60/60 by 10

I remember a game where Yamateh was on Void and was super farmed--he could pretty much 1v5 the other team. Can't remember the SF player but the non-Void team turned it around when SF picked up an Ethereal Blade. After Void used jump-chrono and killed a few people, he jumped at the SF. SF pops Eth, ults, and Void dies.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 16 2012 06:50 GMT
#1975
2009 was plugging Ethereal Blade on Broodmother for a while recently. Said it gave comparable solo-killing power to Orchid while being better for you by virtue of giving you more of stats that you want (mana/regen is pretty much not an issue for Brood after she has Soul Ring anyway, and Orchid spends an inordinate amount of it's cost on Intelligence/mana regen).
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
March 16 2012 06:59 GMT
#1976
Hmm how exactly would that work? Can't right-click after EB until it wears out, and it's not like Brood has high AGI growth.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 07:02:26
March 16 2012 07:00 GMT
#1977
fyi when you get ethereal on meepo you can't net them.


On March 16 2012 15:59 flamewheel wrote:
Hmm how exactly would that work? Can't right-click after EB until it wears out, and it's not like Brood has high AGI growth.

so you right click before then finish with EB + shotspiders (probably a 500 damage nuke). personally im skeptical of this build since the main attractiveness of orchid is to lock down heroes from using their spells and orchid is almost 1000 gold cheaper than ethereal, but i havent tried it anyway
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
March 16 2012 07:00 GMT
#1978
I dont think you would go both orchid and soul ring, either gives enough mana regen to spam spiderlings but orchid gives the silence if you need it against some hero
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 16 2012 07:08 GMT
#1979
EB + shot web damage would work around to be ...

assuming level 11
((75 + ((40 + 18 + (2.2 * 11)) * 2)) + 300) * 1.4 = 755.16

will have to go through reductions, but might be a good pickup.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 07:10:49
March 16 2012 07:09 GMT
#1980
On March 16 2012 16:00 rabidch wrote:
fyi when you get ethereal on meepo you can't net them.


Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 15:59 flamewheel wrote:
Hmm how exactly would that work? Can't right-click after EB until it wears out, and it's not like Brood has high AGI growth.

so you right click before then finish with EB + shotspiders (probably a 500 damage nuke). personally im skeptical of this build since the main attractiveness of orchid is to lock down heroes from using their spells and orchid is almost 1000 gold cheaper than ethereal, but i havent tried it anyway

Doesn't make sense that way. Instead of spending 4900 for an Ethereal Blade which will increase your nuke damage by 120 (300*.4), you could get a Dagon for 2805. Obviously the +40 AGI increase from EB is nice, but it just doesn't seem good at all as a finisher.

Edit: forgot the EB damage... still though I'm not a fan. Orchid helps you lock an enemy down, and BKB helps you chase them unimpeded. If you're not intending to use EB until the finish, you can't as effectively somebody with any sort of disable from getting away.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
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