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hollabackk
Profile Joined December 2010
118 Posts
March 07 2012 18:33 GMT
#1881
Can i purge sven's ult off with diffusal?
Can i repel pudge so that his rot makes him take no damage? Can he still activate/unactivate after i put it on him?
Axe's ult goes through ghost scepter?

Is there a difference between death from neutral creeps and a suicide?
How does assist gold work, i seem to get gold from being nearby but not actually getting a hit, is it the same amount of gold/xp?
Can you win a game with 2 rax down vs a furion?
KtheZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States813 Posts
March 07 2012 18:38 GMT
#1882
On March 08 2012 03:33 hollabackk wrote:
Can i purge sven's ult off with diffusal?
Can i repel pudge so that his rot makes him take no damage? Can he still activate/unactivate after i put it on him?
Axe's ult goes through ghost scepter?

Is there a difference between death from neutral creeps and a suicide?
How does assist gold work, i seem to get gold from being nearby but not actually getting a hit, is it the same amount of gold/xp?
Can you win a game with 2 rax down vs a furion?


1. No. You used to be able to, but not anymore.
2. Yes. If I recall correctly you can.
3. It should. Non-lethal cull is magic damage, while lethal cull dispels all buffs before smashing their skulls in.

4. I think so: Not sure on this at all, but dying to neuts might deny heroes all kill exp, while suicide does not.
5. Assist gold comes from being around the kill. It is a lower amount of gold, not sure about exp.
6. Of course! Just do a deathpush and take their ancient. Also carry tps.
hollabackk
Profile Joined December 2010
118 Posts
March 07 2012 19:01 GMT
#1883
Thanks, is there a purge list somewhere? google keeps taking me to purge's noob guides and such.
Thing's like pudge ult/chen sendback/channeling things. I assume runes can be dispelled?
Yergidy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2107 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 20:29:51
March 07 2012 19:22 GMT
#1884
On March 08 2012 04:01 hollabackk wrote:
Thanks, is there a purge list somewhere? google keeps taking me to purge's noob guides and such.
Thing's like pudge ult/chen sendback/channeling things. I assume runes can be dispelled?

I'm almost positive runes cannot be dispelled.
Edit: I was wrong you can purge runes! My bad!
One bright day in the middle of the night, Two dead boys got up to fight; Back to back they faced each other, Drew their swords and shot each other.
scorch-
Profile Joined January 2011
United States816 Posts
March 07 2012 19:41 GMT
#1885
On March 08 2012 04:22 Yergidy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 04:01 hollabackk wrote:
Thanks, is there a purge list somewhere? google keeps taking me to purge's noob guides and such.
Thing's like pudge ult/chen sendback/channeling things. I assume runes can be dispelled?

I'm almost positive runes cannot be dispelled.


Runes are buffs and are dispelled by using BKB, so I assume they can also be purged.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 07 2012 19:49 GMT
#1886
On March 08 2012 04:01 hollabackk wrote:
Thanks, is there a purge list somewhere? google keeps taking me to purge's noob guides and such.
Thing's like pudge ult/chen sendback/channeling things. I assume runes can be dispelled?

http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=406048
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
March 07 2012 21:30 GMT
#1887
On March 08 2012 03:38 KtheZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 03:33 hollabackk wrote:
Can i purge sven's ult off with diffusal?
Can i repel pudge so that his rot makes him take no damage? Can he still activate/unactivate after i put it on him?
Axe's ult goes through ghost scepter?

Is there a difference between death from neutral creeps and a suicide?
How does assist gold work, i seem to get gold from being nearby but not actually getting a hit, is it the same amount of gold/xp?
Can you win a game with 2 rax down vs a furion?


1. No. You used to be able to, but not anymore.
2. Yes. If I recall correctly you can.
3. It should. Non-lethal cull is magic damage, while lethal cull dispels all buffs before smashing their skulls in.

4. I think so: Not sure on this at all, but dying to neuts might deny heroes all kill exp, while suicide does not.
5. Assist gold comes from being around the kill. It is a lower amount of gold, not sure about exp.
6. Of course! Just do a deathpush and take their ancient. Also carry tps.

For #5, http://www.playdota.com/mechanics/experience
Experience is split evenly among all heroes in a 1200 AoE (even those who did no damage)
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
March 07 2012 22:06 GMT
#1888
On March 08 2012 04:41 scorch- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 04:22 Yergidy wrote:
On March 08 2012 04:01 hollabackk wrote:
Thanks, is there a purge list somewhere? google keeps taking me to purge's noob guides and such.
Thing's like pudge ult/chen sendback/channeling things. I assume runes can be dispelled?

I'm almost positive runes cannot be dispelled.


Runes are buffs and are dispelled by using BKB, so I assume they can also be purged.


I love that I learn something new every day in this thread lol, straight up I've never run into a situation where I BKB'd with a rune up so this is pretty cool to know.

If Riki gets dusted while having a double damage run, and he diffusal's himself I guess it has to get rid of everything then right?
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 07 2012 22:17 GMT
#1889
On March 08 2012 07:06 Zlasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 04:41 scorch- wrote:
On March 08 2012 04:22 Yergidy wrote:
On March 08 2012 04:01 hollabackk wrote:
Thanks, is there a purge list somewhere? google keeps taking me to purge's noob guides and such.
Thing's like pudge ult/chen sendback/channeling things. I assume runes can be dispelled?

I'm almost positive runes cannot be dispelled.


Runes are buffs and are dispelled by using BKB, so I assume they can also be purged.


I love that I learn something new every day in this thread lol, straight up I've never run into a situation where I BKB'd with a rune up so this is pretty cool to know.

If Riki gets dusted while having a double damage run, and he diffusal's himself I guess it has to get rid of everything then right?

Dust isn't actually classed as a magical debuff, so it's neither removed by purge nor by magic immunity. It IS removed by Manta Style's mirror image, as well as by triggered debuff removal such as Tidehunter's Kraken Shell.

http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1116975#post1116975
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PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
March 07 2012 22:22 GMT
#1890
Also BKB does not remove rune buffs in DotA2.
Jieun <3
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
March 07 2012 22:25 GMT
#1891
But Diffusal does get rid of dust. And nevermind on the BKB removing rune then :D haha
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 22:28:25
March 07 2012 22:28 GMT
#1892
On March 08 2012 07:25 Zlasher wrote:
But Diffusal does get rid of dust.

Just checked dev forums. It's a known inconsistency with DotA 1. Not sure if intended or not.
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
March 07 2012 22:29 GMT
#1893
Oh, interesting. Well they definitely intended to have it remove the dust in Dota2 since, well, it works that way, and it another reason why Diffusal is so core on Riki. Amirite?
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PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
March 07 2012 22:31 GMT
#1894
To clarify on the runes, bkb removed them in dota, but does not in dota2 afaik. Whether it is a bug or intended change I do not know
Jieun <3
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 07 2012 22:34 GMT
#1895
On March 08 2012 07:31 PHILtheTANK wrote:
To clarify on the runes, bkb removed them in dota, but does not in dota2 afaik. Whether it is a bug or intended change I do not know

It's also strangely inconsistent across other forms of magic immunity--Lifestealer's Rage doesn't remove rune buffs, but Omniknight's Repel does.
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PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
March 07 2012 22:36 GMT
#1896
On March 08 2012 07:34 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 07:31 PHILtheTANK wrote:
To clarify on the runes, bkb removed them in dota, but does not in dota2 afaik. Whether it is a bug or intended change I do not know

It's also strangely inconsistent across other forms of magic immunity--Lifestealer's Rage doesn't remove rune buffs, but Omniknight's Repel does.


Im assuming its some kind of coding issue and will all be brought in line. Otherwise I don't understand at all.
Jieun <3
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
March 07 2012 22:37 GMT
#1897
Engine differences. There are a lot of little interactions that do not translate in Dota 2.
Get it by your hands...
scorch-
Profile Joined January 2011
United States816 Posts
March 07 2012 23:09 GMT
#1898
Hmm, yeah, I think I just assumed BKB did because Jugg spin or omni repel (can't remember now) did. And it did in HoN last time I played.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
March 08 2012 00:26 GMT
#1899
But the engine is fully customizable in Dota2 so they can at least create consistency if they wish. Have any of you guys posted on the dev forums to bring this to light (they do actually read it). So try to do that, at least bring the inconsistency to light.
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lozarian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1043 Posts
March 08 2012 09:32 GMT
#1900
Omni repel can be casted on other people to remove their rune, so maybe they thought about it more for that, probably just an oversight.

Yes, it is useful, yes it is rare, but it's still good to know.
For every battle honour a thousand heroes die alone, unsung, and unremembered.
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