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Can i purge sven's ult off with diffusal? Can i repel pudge so that his rot makes him take no damage? Can he still activate/unactivate after i put it on him? Axe's ult goes through ghost scepter?
Is there a difference between death from neutral creeps and a suicide? How does assist gold work, i seem to get gold from being nearby but not actually getting a hit, is it the same amount of gold/xp? Can you win a game with 2 rax down vs a furion?
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On March 08 2012 03:33 hollabackk wrote: Can i purge sven's ult off with diffusal? Can i repel pudge so that his rot makes him take no damage? Can he still activate/unactivate after i put it on him? Axe's ult goes through ghost scepter?
Is there a difference between death from neutral creeps and a suicide? How does assist gold work, i seem to get gold from being nearby but not actually getting a hit, is it the same amount of gold/xp? Can you win a game with 2 rax down vs a furion?
1. No. You used to be able to, but not anymore. 2. Yes. If I recall correctly you can. 3. It should. Non-lethal cull is magic damage, while lethal cull dispels all buffs before smashing their skulls in.
4. I think so: Not sure on this at all, but dying to neuts might deny heroes all kill exp, while suicide does not. 5. Assist gold comes from being around the kill. It is a lower amount of gold, not sure about exp. 6. Of course! Just do a deathpush and take their ancient. Also carry tps.
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Thanks, is there a purge list somewhere? google keeps taking me to purge's noob guides and such. Thing's like pudge ult/chen sendback/channeling things. I assume runes can be dispelled?
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On March 08 2012 04:01 hollabackk wrote: Thanks, is there a purge list somewhere? google keeps taking me to purge's noob guides and such. Thing's like pudge ult/chen sendback/channeling things. I assume runes can be dispelled? I'm almost positive runes cannot be dispelled. Edit: I was wrong you can purge runes! My bad!
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On March 08 2012 04:22 Yergidy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 04:01 hollabackk wrote: Thanks, is there a purge list somewhere? google keeps taking me to purge's noob guides and such. Thing's like pudge ult/chen sendback/channeling things. I assume runes can be dispelled? I'm almost positive runes cannot be dispelled.
Runes are buffs and are dispelled by using BKB, so I assume they can also be purged.
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On March 08 2012 04:01 hollabackk wrote: Thanks, is there a purge list somewhere? google keeps taking me to purge's noob guides and such. Thing's like pudge ult/chen sendback/channeling things. I assume runes can be dispelled? http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=406048
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On March 08 2012 03:38 KtheZ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 03:33 hollabackk wrote: Can i purge sven's ult off with diffusal? Can i repel pudge so that his rot makes him take no damage? Can he still activate/unactivate after i put it on him? Axe's ult goes through ghost scepter?
Is there a difference between death from neutral creeps and a suicide? How does assist gold work, i seem to get gold from being nearby but not actually getting a hit, is it the same amount of gold/xp? Can you win a game with 2 rax down vs a furion? 1. No. You used to be able to, but not anymore. 2. Yes. If I recall correctly you can. 3. It should. Non-lethal cull is magic damage, while lethal cull dispels all buffs before smashing their skulls in. 4. I think so: Not sure on this at all, but dying to neuts might deny heroes all kill exp, while suicide does not. 5. Assist gold comes from being around the kill. It is a lower amount of gold, not sure about exp. 6. Of course! Just do a deathpush and take their ancient. Also carry tps. For #5, http://www.playdota.com/mechanics/experience Experience is split evenly among all heroes in a 1200 AoE (even those who did no damage)
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On March 08 2012 04:41 scorch- wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 04:22 Yergidy wrote:On March 08 2012 04:01 hollabackk wrote: Thanks, is there a purge list somewhere? google keeps taking me to purge's noob guides and such. Thing's like pudge ult/chen sendback/channeling things. I assume runes can be dispelled? I'm almost positive runes cannot be dispelled. Runes are buffs and are dispelled by using BKB, so I assume they can also be purged.
I love that I learn something new every day in this thread lol, straight up I've never run into a situation where I BKB'd with a rune up so this is pretty cool to know.
If Riki gets dusted while having a double damage run, and he diffusal's himself I guess it has to get rid of everything then right?
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On March 08 2012 07:06 Zlasher wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 04:41 scorch- wrote:On March 08 2012 04:22 Yergidy wrote:On March 08 2012 04:01 hollabackk wrote: Thanks, is there a purge list somewhere? google keeps taking me to purge's noob guides and such. Thing's like pudge ult/chen sendback/channeling things. I assume runes can be dispelled? I'm almost positive runes cannot be dispelled. Runes are buffs and are dispelled by using BKB, so I assume they can also be purged. I love that I learn something new every day in this thread lol, straight up I've never run into a situation where I BKB'd with a rune up so this is pretty cool to know. If Riki gets dusted while having a double damage run, and he diffusal's himself I guess it has to get rid of everything then right? Dust isn't actually classed as a magical debuff, so it's neither removed by purge nor by magic immunity. It IS removed by Manta Style's mirror image, as well as by triggered debuff removal such as Tidehunter's Kraken Shell.
http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1116975#post1116975
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Also BKB does not remove rune buffs in DotA2.
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But Diffusal does get rid of dust. And nevermind on the BKB removing rune then :D haha
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On March 08 2012 07:25 Zlasher wrote: But Diffusal does get rid of dust. Just checked dev forums. It's a known inconsistency with DotA 1. Not sure if intended or not.
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Oh, interesting. Well they definitely intended to have it remove the dust in Dota2 since, well, it works that way, and it another reason why Diffusal is so core on Riki. Amirite?
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To clarify on the runes, bkb removed them in dota, but does not in dota2 afaik. Whether it is a bug or intended change I do not know
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On March 08 2012 07:31 PHILtheTANK wrote: To clarify on the runes, bkb removed them in dota, but does not in dota2 afaik. Whether it is a bug or intended change I do not know It's also strangely inconsistent across other forms of magic immunity--Lifestealer's Rage doesn't remove rune buffs, but Omniknight's Repel does.
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On March 08 2012 07:34 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 07:31 PHILtheTANK wrote: To clarify on the runes, bkb removed them in dota, but does not in dota2 afaik. Whether it is a bug or intended change I do not know It's also strangely inconsistent across other forms of magic immunity--Lifestealer's Rage doesn't remove rune buffs, but Omniknight's Repel does.
Im assuming its some kind of coding issue and will all be brought in line. Otherwise I don't understand at all.
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Engine differences. There are a lot of little interactions that do not translate in Dota 2.
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Hmm, yeah, I think I just assumed BKB did because Jugg spin or omni repel (can't remember now) did. And it did in HoN last time I played.
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But the engine is fully customizable in Dota2 so they can at least create consistency if they wish. Have any of you guys posted on the dev forums to bring this to light (they do actually read it). So try to do that, at least bring the inconsistency to light.
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Omni repel can be casted on other people to remove their rune, so maybe they thought about it more for that, probably just an oversight.
Yes, it is useful, yes it is rare, but it's still good to know.
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