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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34510 Posts
On May 06 2013 20:22 PassiveAce wrote: WTF I thought euls was supposed to be able to activate on allies T_T Thats pretty much the only reason i loved it. Like a slightly weaker disrupt, incredibly useful. Can I still use it on myself? Yes. | ||
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RMP
United Kingdom130 Posts
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
On May 06 2013 20:40 RMP wrote: How many points (this season thus far) do you think one needs in Europe to be placed in GM? (I know it's done on mmr but a rough approximate would be very nice :D) Around 70 million. Wrong thread dude t.t | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On May 06 2013 20:40 RMP wrote: How many points (this season thus far) do you think one needs in Europe to be placed in GM? (I know it's done on mmr but a rough approximate would be very nice :D) You're in the Dota2 forum, heres the thread you are looking for: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=187808 I am seriously bummed that I cant cast euls on allies now. I cant even count how many times iv saved allies from death by euling them. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34510 Posts
On May 06 2013 20:51 PassiveAce wrote: You're in the Dota2 forum, heres the thread you are looking for: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=187808 I am seriously bummed that I cant cast euls on allies now. I cant even count how many times iv saved allies from death by euling them. It's been impossible to do that for a long time now, I suspect you'll survive.  | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
I also swore up and down that weavers ult goes thru silence at 16 so I guess il just let it go :p | ||
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The Great Taste
389 Posts
If it counts for something, Meepo can also use it on his clones. | ||
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givemefive
United States300 Posts
Are you a HON player? You can use eul's on allies in that game according to people I've heard. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
I could have sworn iv used it on allies numerous times throughout the beta but im beginning to think im just nuts :/ | ||
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Nycaloth
147 Posts
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
However, this was a long time ago, back in dota1. I don't think it was ever possible in dota2 or really early beta. It was put in hon because when it was ported from dota1 it was that way. Unless its a completely new item or idea, most things in hon were at one point in dota. That said, it would be too good in dota2. Especially after the cost reductions. It rids of debuffs and sets up for lots of ultis and skills. There was also a bug where you could teleport scroll during euls. Now that was hilarious. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 06 2013 18:35 Firebolt145 wrote: I faintly remember being able to Euls allies loong after it was split off from Guinsoo. I suspect it was a later change. It's not listed as it's own change anywhere from 6.3x to now, so the only place it seems like it would have happened is as part of the 6.50 remake. From the looks of it, the 6.50 remake couldn't self-target either--that functionality was added back in 6.60 according to here: http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=366682 | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
Edit : another question concerning NP, I've been very impressed by a NP with medallion as first item, his early ganks hurts 10x times more with this, do we ever see it in progames? | ||
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TheSubtleArt
Canada2527 Posts
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Ryrmidon
Canada371 Posts
On May 07 2013 01:42 nojok wrote: This may seem like a QQ but it's not as this situation happens oh so often. How a carry without great escape mechanism can find farm versus his teammate NP who appears on every lane slightly unpushed and will make sure to keep every lane pushed with his ulti in case he can't reach it in time? You can grab a bit of gold in woods but this has happened so many times and I've won/lost many games because NP took way too much gold from his mates. Edit : another question concerning NP, I've been very impressed by a NP with medallion as first item, his early ganks hurts 10x times more with this, do we ever see it in progames? Pick a carry that can farm jungle camps quickly, or politely ask the NP to stop pushing safelane so you can farm it. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On May 07 2013 01:57 TheSubtleArt wrote: Question: Is OD actually that great of a mid outside of counter picking certain intelligence heroes? I find I can never control runes with him. Just played mid vs a TA and I got out harassed and always had the lane pushed up to my tower, which meant I had to last hit under tower for a lot of the time and could never contest runes without losing CS. Yes, he really is. Just put the TA in jail every time it's off cooldown (Skip orb btw). TA can't cast refraction with 13 mana and without refraction she can't out-lasthit your 80+ damage. Rune control doesn't mean much when her max mana doesn't even allow her to cast refraction regardless of bottle charges. If you notice she is pushing then spend extra time auto-attacking her creeps whenever there isn't a last-hit being contested. TA is however a very strong mid so it's not like a complete blowout the way it is vs virtually every int hero. PS: I know OD has bad range but TA has worse so you can abuse that too. She is super squishy without refraction up. She should die to ult at 6 as well (so long as she doesn't refract it ofc). | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On May 07 2013 02:03 Sn0_Man wrote: Yes, he really is. Just put the TA in jail every time it's off cooldown (Skip orb btw). TA can't cast refraction with 13 mana and without refraction she can't out-lasthit your 80+ damage. Rune control doesn't mean much when her max mana doesn't even allow her to cast refraction regardless of bottle charges. If you notice she is pushing then spend extra time auto-attacking her creeps whenever there isn't a last-hit being contested. TA is however a very strong mid so it's not like a complete blowout the way it is vs virtually every int hero. PS: I know OD has bad range but TA has worse so you can abuse that too. She is super squishy without refraction up. She should die to ult at 6 as well (so long as she doesn't refract it ofc). Yeah, and with the int you can steal from her, you could possibly get a slightly earlier orb to help push lane if she's pushing hard. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On May 07 2013 02:25 Tobberoth wrote: Yeah, and with the int you can steal from her, you could possibly get a slightly earlier orb to help push lane if she's pushing hard. You need at least 2 levels in prison to really persecute the enemies intelligence and for it to last long enough to be a useful spell other than just int steal. Then you need every level possible in the mana aura so that you can spam your prison unendingly. And you need ult. So at level 7 you kinda need 2 prison 4 aura 1 ult. After that you can get orb I guess but you are past laning stage by that point (although as OD you kinda just farm a lane whenever your ult is on CD anyway). | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 07 2013 02:03 Sn0_Man wrote: PS: I know OD has bad range but TA has worse so you can abuse that too. She is super squishy without refraction up. She should die to ult at 6 as well (so long as she doesn't refract it ofc). OD's mediocre range is also more than made up for by his extremely impressive base stats--his level 1 stat total is the highest in the game, and his stat gains per level are tied for the 2nd highest. 5+ base armor is also quite rare for a ranged hero--Techies and Storm are the only other two ranged heroes to have 5+ base armor, and they have their own issues as solos. His ~57 base damage (on a hero that steals his prime stat no less) and 310 base MS are above-average as well. He's in that class of heroes that are near permaban in tournament 1v1. | ||
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TheSubtleArt
Canada2527 Posts
On May 07 2013 02:03 Sn0_Man wrote: Yes, he really is. Just put the TA in jail every time it's off cooldown (Skip orb btw). TA can't cast refraction with 13 mana and without refraction she can't out-lasthit your 80+ damage. Rune control doesn't mean much when her max mana doesn't even allow her to cast refraction regardless of bottle charges. If you notice she is pushing then spend extra time auto-attacking her creeps whenever there isn't a last-hit being contested. TA is however a very strong mid so it's not like a complete blowout the way it is vs virtually every int hero. PS: I know OD has bad range but TA has worse so you can abuse that too. She is super squishy without refraction up. She should die to ult at 6 as well (so long as she doesn't refract it ofc). I still got outlaned from her having every rune tho. I know bottle crowing mitigates a lot of her harass but it's not something I like to rely on in all pick (that game we didnt have a flying couri till 13 minutes) | ||
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