EPTRTZ builds w/e/w/e/w/r/w/q/e/e/r and I'm going with the assumption that he knows what he's doing.
You can delay the point in orb if u want but don't delay it too long. Don't use it to lasthit until max E though obviously.
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
RTZ builds w/e/w/e/w/r/w/q/e/e/r and I'm going with the assumption that he knows what he's doing. You can delay the point in orb if u want but don't delay it too long. Don't use it to lasthit until max E though obviously. | ||
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Surprise.820
United Kingdom1276 Posts
On May 15 2014 01:38 Sn0_Man wrote: no. RTZ builds w/e/w/e/w/r/w/q/e/e/r and I'm going with the assumption that he knows what he's doing. You can delay the point in orb if u want but don't delay it too long. Don't use it to lasthit until max E though obviously. Maxing W or E first before Q is always rational, but maxing W is surely the I want to win my lane route? It doesn't really matter if you get bottle, midas or mek with maxing W because you have sick lane control and with bottle you can easily sustain even if you get unlucky procs with your aura. He asked a question and I answered him with the earliest you would want Orb if you're not too fussy on lane control/last hitting and just want to help your side lanes. But yeah I apologise, to clarify, if you want to demolish your lane get W maxed first (mana pool and sick ult damage) then get a point of Q when you need the damage for either route. Not to mention, other than blink hex its your only other item that can deal with bkbs. Abyssal is good too. I'd likely never build skadi on OD. Edit: oops didn't read what you said sn0, got confused for a second. corrected some stuff | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 15 2014 01:34 NeoRussia wrote: You don't get it for the orb, you get it for the stats. Because Skadi is one of the highest mana pool and INT items in the game its also a big damage item for you and OD does a lot with the other stats as well. Not to mention, other than blink hex its your only other item that can deal with bkbs. IMO skadi should be your core item after bkb hex unless you are getting blink or need shiva's first for some reason. Actually, Skadi IS the highest mana pool item in the game. 25 ias and 725 HP are just an icing on the cake. | ||
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Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
Why do people think this? Walking out of the lane before significant farm is actually the worst thing you can do on this hero. | ||
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rebdomine
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Fwizzz
Philippines4420 Posts
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ManZ
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Get Refresher instead. 2 ults can rape the whole team nuff said. And watch Mushi for instance im sure he never bought AC on OD and he is the best OD in the world. Treads, force staff, bkb, sheep, refresher and shivas should be the 6 slotted OD. Maybe you can replace the force staff for a heart. But really it is pointless getting AC on OD, it is a pub build. Let your carry get the AC instead. And finally OD should stay in lane, he is not a good ganker like QoP or NS. OD is about dominating the lane. Also mek in pretty good, you can 5 early and win team fights with the mek and the ult. Also mek is really good if you want to take down towers quickly. If you wanna learn how to play OD you should watch Mushi. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 01 2014 13:00 ManZ wrote: But really it is pointless getting AC on OD, it is a pub build. Let your carry get the AC instead. It is a pub build. And we're all playing pubs. In an ideal world, OD can just wait on someone else to get AC. This is actually true of a LOT of potential AC carriers. Tiny for example would much rather buy Manta and have someone else get AC for him. The reality is that you will pretty much never play games where you can rely on that "other" AC carrier to get AC except on specific heroes that almost always get it. And it's better for you to get an AC than for nobody to get an AC. | ||
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craz3d
Bulgaria856 Posts
On May 16 2014 12:01 rebdomine wrote: Whenever I play OD and people say "OD please gank" at 6 mins, I die inside. Yep. Then you get called a noob and you get blamed for losing the game. | ||
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Surprise.820
United Kingdom1276 Posts
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rebdomine
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solidbebe
Netherlands4921 Posts
On August 03 2014 03:52 craz3d wrote: Yep. Then you get called a noob and you get blamed for losing the game. happens on every mid hero. offlane feeds first blood at demands a gank at 2 minutes because his lane is now 'unwinnable'... | ||
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DazzleEnthusiast
United States72 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Skillbuild should be w/e/w/e/w/r/w/q/e/e/r U can get 1 in q earlier if necessary but extra levels in it do LESS damage than levels in E (if you bother reading the skills). Maxing W is now even better. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 27 2014 00:47 Sn0_Man wrote: No Skillbuild should be w/e/w/e/w/r/w/q/e/e/r U can get 1 in q earlier if necessary but extra levels in it do LESS damage than levels in E (if you bother reading the skills). Maxing W is now even better. 1) You only take ult at 6 if there's kill potential. Without Orb for follow-up damage, you have to judge based on the situation whether a level 6 Ult kill is possible. Especially given how excruciatingly long the CD on Sanity's is, an ult that fails to turn a kill is basically a dead skill point for the next 2-3 levels. 2) Second rank Orb before 11 has some specific applications to certain lanes. For example, in certain specific 1v1 lanes, 2nd or 3rd rank Orb are more impactful because of the bonus damage to summons (e.g. vs. Lycan 2nd rank Orb can kill Wolves in 1 hit, while 1st rank needs 2). You still don't generally have this before level 8 (e.g. 2/2/4/0 at level 8 or 2/3/4/0 at level 9), and it's still highly situational. 3) Whether you max Astral first depends on the enemy's base Int and the development of the laning phase. Rank 3 Astral bring a significant number of heroes to low enough Int for the difference going from rank 3->4 to be less impactful than maxing Aura before taking the 4th rank in Astral. Up to level 5 you're usually going to be 0-3-2, but after that there's tremendous variation between levels 6 and 10. | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On October 13 2014 13:59 CosmicSpiral wrote: What is the current opinion regarding Eul's Scepter on OD? Why would you get eul for? As in its not a terrible item on od, but you better have a strong reason to get it over atos/force etc. | ||
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Checkm8
Japan627 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
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