EPT[Hero] Outworld Devourer - Page 11
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Kaj
Singapore269 Posts
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8910 Posts
and even after bkb lets face it, you can save people from a lot of things with that spell and on a 10s CD, it allows a supports cooldowns to come up and rejoin the fight. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Also see a lot of Rod of Atos after Blink; figured BKB would be essential instead of Atos (or Dragon Lance) | ||
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8910 Posts
Atos allows you to blink onto people without escapes and boop them on the head a couple of times before they explode. Dragon lance is entirely unnecessary. you want mobility to position yourself better, not a couple extra yards of range..if you want the HP, get the HP from your atos. if you want the attack speed, buy something else  | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
If you get Dragon Lance early, you're still at the point in the game where you still want to be buying Int items to keep your mana and orb damage high (this is why Drums are good early). If you buy it later, you get starved of slots really fast cuz the hero already wants Drums and Blink, so it's hard to justify a 3rd 2k gold item and then run out of slots 1 item later. If Dragon Lance's passive were on a bigger, more slot-efficient item, it'd be pretty good for OD's 6-slot, but as is, it's not what you want early and not what you want late. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
for the sake of guides, i'd recommend 214 | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 23 2016 10:38 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: max q is more powerful for the earlygame but requires much better mana management It also ignores the massive benefit that Essence Aura gives to a lot of other heroes in that level range. | ||
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8910 Posts
On February 23 2016 10:17 TheYango wrote: The problem with Dragon Lance isn't that attack range isn't good for you (it is), it's that the item doesn't mesh well with OD's power growth. If you get Dragon Lance early, you're still at the point in the game where you still want to be buying Int items to keep your mana and orb damage high (this is why Drums are good early). If you buy it later, you get starved of slots really fast cuz the hero already wants Drums and Blink, so it's hard to justify a 3rd 2k gold item and then run out of slots 1 item later. If Dragon Lance's passive were on a bigger, more slot-efficient item, it'd be pretty good for OD's 6-slot, but as is, it's not what you want early and not what you want late. yeah with no int on the item its hard to deny there are better items out there | ||
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Kaj
Singapore269 Posts
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gaymon
Germany1023 Posts
0120 4120 4121 4141 If you plan on 5 manning extremely early and enemies cant really fight into you i guess you can max aura before orb, but generally you want to have the orb maxed out as early as possible | ||
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ahw
Canada1099 Posts
Seriously this combo is a brutal safe lane and is seriously difficult to crack Anyone have any ideas how to handle them early / mid / late (any time rly) aside from like broodmother | ||
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Kaj
Singapore269 Posts
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8910 Posts
On February 23 2016 15:18 Kaj wrote: against magic burst lineup, casual hood is very legit on OD. The hp sustain is nice. The magic resist and shield is even better. OD for such a bursty hero has actually really good str gain and hp, so the hood effectively makes you a tank, and gives you much more e hp against those lineups. Bring it on, your linas, zeus, pugnas, nyxs whatever. Hood is actually pretty legit, and we all know stacking int items is good, but whats better is when you make him tanky. plus, the longer you stay alive against those lineups, the higher your damage output is via the stolen int anyway. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
4 health regen aura on your team is actually so good in addition to everything else it gives u esp cuz od should win any XvX teamfights in the midgame unless he's caught in a bad position | ||
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8910 Posts
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On February 23 2016 15:18 Kaj wrote: against magic burst lineup, casual hood is very legit on OD. The hp sustain is nice. The magic resist and shield is even better. OD for such a bursty hero has actually really good str gain and hp, so the hood effectively makes you a tank, and gives you much more e hp against those lineups. Bring it on, your linas, zeus, pugnas, nyxs whatever. Hood is actually pretty legit, and we all know stacking int items is good, but whats better is when you make him tanky. how about just buying a bkb | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
I carried the fuck out of this game. After two matches, even with some fuck ups with some bad plays, still destroyed, this hero is ridiculous strong if you know what you are doing and still strong even if you aren't perfect. And even bkb's can't fully stop you if you can wait them out with smart play. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On February 24 2016 10:49 the bear jew wrote: http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2174211906 I carried the fuck out of this game. After two matches, even with some fuck ups with some bad plays, still destroyed, this hero is ridiculous strong if you know what you are doing and still strong even if you aren't perfect. And even bkb's can't fully stop you if you can wait them out with smart play. idk man it looks like your team (which had an omni, spec, and aa) was doing adequately + the fact that the enemy's cm outdamaged their invo... but yea your point stands od is stronk | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On February 24 2016 11:14 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: idk man it looks like your team (which had an omni, spec, and aa) was doing adequately + the fact that the enemy's cm outdamaged their invo... but yea your point stands od is stronk Gotta look at the replay, Omni/spectre got crushed top and Omni was raging we just lost and how we were fucked and flaming tinker and then fed a few deaths cause he was mad. Spectre didn't have shit for items forever. Honestly, tinker's march spam and blind from laser helped us hold high ground till I had items. Then we still just stalled for 40 minutes till Spectre had items. It was a long, long slog of a game. For people asking about beating OD, I say strong split push, even with blink he's not hte most mobile hero so I think split push is the way to go. | ||
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