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ajfirecracker
United States62 Posts
It seems this would be genuinely useful at a high level. Is lack of knowledge why we don't see this by the top players or is this understood to not be worth it for some specific reason? Faster harass / pickoffs are obvious ones, anything else? Do you absolutely need ling speed to not get chewed apart by stim marines doing kiting/harass micro at a high level or something? | ||
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redloser
Korea (South)1749 Posts
You'd have better chance with surrounding with fast lings and connecting B | ||
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ajfirecracker
United States62 Posts
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zelevin
United States316 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26499 Posts
Lings are worse as a counter-attacking threat, worse at retreating, worse for responding to drops and you gain very little. In straight-up engagements you want your lings to effectively envelope the bio and wrap around so it can’t just kite you to death. And if that locks it into place so banes can hit, even better. Lings without speed are just worse at doing this. In general, a slower melee army will also just eat more hits when engaging a primarily or entirely ranged army before doing damage, and lings aren’t exactly tanky. So just in terms of the numbers game you’re going to thin out your numbers and thus damage potential almost by default. | ||
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ajfirecracker
United States62 Posts
I encourage the doubters to actually try it! When you have fast lings, you only get surface area on the outside of the M/M blob and then your banelings have a hard time getting past your zerglings to connect. The banelings roll in in a big clump behind and can be targeted down with no risk of clicking on zerglings. When you have slow lings, the ling/bane hits all at once and the baneling hits tear chunks out of the army giving the slow lings awesome surface area. Focusing down the banelings requires clicking in a sea of moving ling/bane (while apparently simultaneously stimming backwards to kite). | ||
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Elentos
55569 Posts
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ajfirecracker
United States62 Posts
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yubo56
690 Posts
If your opponents are target firing banes, they're probably also able to multiprong drop (which slow lings can't respond to); they probably have deep mine and tank lines (which will get much better hits against such a tightly clumped up army, killing slightly fewer banes but many more lings); and stimmed bio is faster than speedbanes off creep, so you can never actually kill stutter stepping bio You also can't counterattack nearly as effectively with slow lings. backstabs are a pretty big part of high level ZvT, and timing is everything; if it takes you twice as long to arrive, it seems difficult to do any damage | ||
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Duckvillelol
Australia1256 Posts
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