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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 26 2015 15:50 GMT
#941
The thing they got going for them is that it took 3 months before "old secret" actually could control their nerves and win every game and look dominant, even in finals. So, maybe this "new secret" also needs that trial and error period like the old secret.
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gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
April 26 2015 16:37 GMT
#942
fan or not, it's actually really comedic seeing these 'superstar' teams like old DK and Secret who are hyped beyond belief, and then get destroyed in major tournaments
C r u m b l i n g
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
April 26 2015 17:59 GMT
#943
On April 27 2015 01:37 gulati wrote:
fan or not, it's actually really comedic seeing these 'superstar' teams like old DK and Secret who are hyped beyond belief, and then get destroyed in major tournaments

well.... if losing like that can be called "destroyed" then I may be join EG next week and replace sumail.
zdarr
Profile Joined September 2010
France375 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-26 18:15:46
April 26 2015 18:14 GMT
#944
On April 27 2015 01:37 gulati wrote:
fan or not, it's actually really comedic seeing these 'superstar' teams like old DK and Secret who are hyped beyond belief, and then get destroyed in major tournaments


That explains the c9 flair, they never fail to deliver a good throw to their fans
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 26 2015 23:51 GMT
#945
On April 27 2015 01:37 gulati wrote:
fan or not, it's actually really comedic seeing these 'superstar' teams like old DK and Secret who are hyped beyond belief, and then get destroyed in major tournaments

DK did win SL9 very convincingly, but their mental game wasn't stable. It took them a while to get used to Lanm's drafts but at TI4 he fell sick.
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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
April 26 2015 23:59 GMT
#946
Feels like you need to post a graphic flowchart to have an opinion about anything related to a Dota team for what you're saying to not be stripped of all relevant context.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
April 27 2015 06:18 GMT
#947
Well on the plus site, this thread get's some love ... or hate ... it was quite silent here

Still in support of Kuro (and rest), don't care about this Starladder!
There can only be one Geisterkarle
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
April 27 2015 06:56 GMT
#948
On April 27 2015 15:18 Geisterkarle wrote:
Well on the plus site, this thread get's some love ... or hate ... it was quite silent here

Still in support of Kuro (and rest), don't care about this Starladder!

It is silent here because the real NaVi fans are still by their side. Sometimes they go around making things more lively.
sweetkay
Profile Joined January 2015
206 Posts
April 27 2015 09:44 GMT
#949
Gonna be interesting to see if Secret can pull it together for Summit and ESL. If they don't place high in those tournaments they are definitely going into the TI qualifier.

kazyv
Profile Joined May 2013
273 Posts
April 27 2015 10:26 GMT
#950
On April 27 2015 18:44 sweetkay wrote:
Gonna be interesting to see if Secret can pull it together for Summit and ESL. If they don't place high in those tournaments they are definitely going into the TI qualifier.


unless they change rosters, they are getting invited 100%, even if they place last at both of those tournaments
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
April 27 2015 10:54 GMT
#951
On April 27 2015 19:26 kazyv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 18:44 sweetkay wrote:
Gonna be interesting to see if Secret can pull it together for Summit and ESL. If they don't place high in those tournaments they are definitely going into the TI qualifier.


unless they change rosters, they are getting invited 100%, even if they place last at both of those tournaments

sure, they're also gonna get seeded in the main event even if they place last in the round robin just cuz zai's pretty face and puppey's success with navi :DD
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
sweetkay
Profile Joined January 2015
206 Posts
April 27 2015 11:04 GMT
#952
On April 27 2015 19:26 kazyv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 18:44 sweetkay wrote:
Gonna be interesting to see if Secret can pull it together for Summit and ESL. If they don't place high in those tournaments they are definitely going into the TI qualifier.


unless they change rosters, they are getting invited 100%, even if they place last at both of those tournaments


So if C9 outperforms them in The Summit and Alliance outperforms them in ESL you still think Secret will get an invite?
That's pretty delusional.

Hai1Fyre
Profile Joined May 2014
South Africa270 Posts
April 27 2015 11:18 GMT
#953
lol, has everyone forgotten that they beat C9 and Alliance in the redbull battle grounds quals? just chill, their drafts were really bad this starladder, and besides, there is a new patch soon which is bound to change things

Also, i think the invites are going to be released before Summit and ESL, I might be wrong
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caiovigg
Profile Joined July 2014
Brazil1802 Posts
April 27 2015 11:24 GMT
#954
On April 27 2015 19:54 Kabras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 19:26 kazyv wrote:
On April 27 2015 18:44 sweetkay wrote:
Gonna be interesting to see if Secret can pull it together for Summit and ESL. If they don't place high in those tournaments they are definitely going into the TI qualifier.


unless they change rosters, they are getting invited 100%, even if they place last at both of those tournaments

sure, they're also gonna get seeded in the main event even if they place last in the round robin just cuz zai's pretty face and puppey's success with navi :DD


No, they are getting a TI invite even if they place last at both events just because TI invites will be released before them.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
April 27 2015 11:25 GMT
#955
I'm not sure whether all this invite talk is trolling or what, but Secret definitely has their invite secured. Not only do their players have good results around the year, but even with this lineup they placed 3rd at DAC, qualified for all events they tried to get into, and won their group in Dotapit. Of course they did fail at SL, but invites are going out before their next LAN as far as I'm aware. Even assuming they would continue placing last (which is rather unlikely), they wouldn't have the time to fail hard enough to get their invite taken away.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
April 27 2015 11:49 GMT
#956
Its quite possible that invites have been decided already but simply not released, even before this SL , we don't know.
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sweetkay
Profile Joined January 2015
206 Posts
April 27 2015 11:56 GMT
#957
On April 27 2015 20:25 spudde123 wrote:
I'm not sure whether all this invite talk is trolling or what, but Secret definitely has their invite secured. Not only do their players have good results around the year, but even with this lineup they placed 3rd at DAC, qualified for all events they tried to get into, and won their group in Dotapit. Of course they did fail at SL, but invites are going out before their next LAN as far as I'm aware. Even assuming they would continue placing last (which is rather unlikely), they wouldn't have the time to fail hard enough to get their invite taken away.


Im not trolling at all. Recent results should matter imo. If we go by your logic of results "around" they year as you say then you might aswell say Alliance and Navi both deserve an invite because they won TI and were good at some point in the past. I mean how far back is relevant?
That's my question I guess. Right now I would say C9, Empire and Alliance are all making a strong case to be in contention for the EU invites.

Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-27 12:06:18
April 27 2015 12:03 GMT
#958
On April 27 2015 20:56 sweetkay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 20:25 spudde123 wrote:
I'm not sure whether all this invite talk is trolling or what, but Secret definitely has their invite secured. Not only do their players have good results around the year, but even with this lineup they placed 3rd at DAC, qualified for all events they tried to get into, and won their group in Dotapit. Of course they did fail at SL, but invites are going out before their next LAN as far as I'm aware. Even assuming they would continue placing last (which is rather unlikely), they wouldn't have the time to fail hard enough to get their invite taken away.


Im not trolling at all. Recent results should matter imo. If we go by your logic of results "around" they year as you say then you might aswell say Alliance and Navi both deserve an invite because they won TI and were good at some point in the past. I mean how far back is relevant?
That's my question I guess. Right now I would say C9, Empire and Alliance are all making a strong case to be in contention for the EU invites.


Alliance and Empire ? rofl you are seriously trolling

Empire didnt even qualified for SL and lost to LC (!!!!!!), who were eliminated by TT (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!), sure they won MLG but that was with a stand in and you said this is all about "recent results", Alliance has been terrible for such a long time, ok, they are showing SOME but thats about it, nothing more

And DAC was only 2 months ago, thats like nothing

And this exactly its why the invite system is the worst system ive seen in my life, especially when there are no clear rules
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
April 27 2015 12:07 GMT
#959
On April 27 2015 20:56 sweetkay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 20:25 spudde123 wrote:
I'm not sure whether all this invite talk is trolling or what, but Secret definitely has their invite secured. Not only do their players have good results around the year, but even with this lineup they placed 3rd at DAC, qualified for all events they tried to get into, and won their group in Dotapit. Of course they did fail at SL, but invites are going out before their next LAN as far as I'm aware. Even assuming they would continue placing last (which is rather unlikely), they wouldn't have the time to fail hard enough to get their invite taken away.


Im not trolling at all. Recent results should matter imo. If we go by your logic of results "around" they year as you say then you might aswell say Alliance and Navi both deserve an invite because they won TI and were good at some point in the past. I mean how far back is relevant?
That's my question I guess. Right now I would say C9, Empire and Alliance are all making a strong case to be in contention for the EU invites.



"How far back is relevant" isn't that difficult of a question imo, a natural cutoff point is TI4. Imo results after that should play some part of a role, but probably with more emphasis on recent results due to it being more telling of the team's current level. Also the teams have had roster changes in between.

But even with just looking at recent results, Secret has overall been the strongest EU team before SL, which was their only real failure. They were 3rd at DAC, doing well in Dotapit, won Summit quals, won Redbull quals, qualified to SL even though they lost to Alliance. Granted LAN is more important than online play, but 2 bad bo3 performances is hardly a reason to just dismiss everything the team has done before that.
Hai1Fyre
Profile Joined May 2014
South Africa270 Posts
April 27 2015 13:30 GMT
#960
On April 27 2015 21:07 spudde123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 20:56 sweetkay wrote:
On April 27 2015 20:25 spudde123 wrote:
I'm not sure whether all this invite talk is trolling or what, but Secret definitely has their invite secured. Not only do their players have good results around the year, but even with this lineup they placed 3rd at DAC, qualified for all events they tried to get into, and won their group in Dotapit. Of course they did fail at SL, but invites are going out before their next LAN as far as I'm aware. Even assuming they would continue placing last (which is rather unlikely), they wouldn't have the time to fail hard enough to get their invite taken away.


Im not trolling at all. Recent results should matter imo. If we go by your logic of results "around" they year as you say then you might aswell say Alliance and Navi both deserve an invite because they won TI and were good at some point in the past. I mean how far back is relevant?
That's my question I guess. Right now I would say C9, Empire and Alliance are all making a strong case to be in contention for the EU invites.



"How far back is relevant" isn't that difficult of a question imo, a natural cutoff point is TI4. Imo results after that should play some part of a role, but probably with more emphasis on recent results due to it being more telling of the team's current level. Also the teams have had roster changes in between.

But even with just looking at recent results, Secret has overall been the strongest EU team before SL, which was their only real failure. They were 3rd at DAC, doing well in Dotapit, won Summit quals, won Redbull quals, qualified to SL even though they lost to Alliance. Granted LAN is more important than online play, but 2 bad bo3 performances is hardly a reason to just dismiss everything the team has done before that.


Thank you... finally someone with some common sense
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