EPTTeam Secret Discussion - Page 47
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ShiaoPi
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5955 Posts
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bumwithagun
United States153 Posts
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Racket
3023 Posts
Puppey and Kuro are beasts but I feel like when they are performing bad it could be due to internal issues, it happened before. s4 is one of the most versatile players I have seen but I don't think his low level is tied only to himself, something else is going on. I think. IMHO, kicking n0tail was the worst decision ever made by Secret, I would have looked somewhere else for an offlaner. Kuro was not the best safelane carry but he fitted the team pretty damn well, leaving mid for s4 and a support duo that was incredible strong. Many people say #fngneverforget, I would also say #n0tailneverforget | ||
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Faruko
Chile34169 Posts
People are jumping way too fast in conclusions, this same te rolled over DAC 1st round and end up 3rd 1 tournaments that its duration its less than 1% of the year, exception to the rule C9 got eliminated by Secret and not even finished Top4 | ||
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Furikawari
France2522 Posts
On April 26 2015 20:34 Faruko wrote: I dont know, n0tail its great and everything, but like i said before its not like Kuro and Puppey and leagues behind n0tail People are jumping way too fast in conclusions, this same te rolled over DAC 1st round and end up 3rd 1 tournaments that its duration its less than 1% of the year, exception to the rule C9 got eliminated by Secret and not even finished Top4 The problem is the teams they lost to. And to me they really have drafts/hero pool problems right now. I mean, I've never been a fan of Kuro as a carry but at least he could play 3 different heroes in a bo3. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34169 Posts
But again, i say it may be the rule or the exception ? We will have to wait  | ||
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Racket
3023 Posts
On April 26 2015 21:22 Faruko wrote: Yes, i did say a few pages that the biggest issues is how they lost and not the fact they lost (which can happen) they looked like a completely different team añl of their biggest skills werent there in this tournament But again, i say it may be the rule or the exception ? We will have to wait I am not saying this team can't accomplish things. I am sure they can make it work. Also, even if Kuro + Puppey are really good, I liked them a lot in NaVi, I just find Puppy+n0tail better, I like them more. In short, independently of how good this team can play, I preferred the former team + a new offlaner than this team. Edit: Sry, my comment before this one seemed a bit condemning, all good, Secret can stay as they are, not like it matters to me. Just wanted to unfocus a bit the RTZ hype + flame the other 4 because I feel it is a bit unfair. | ||
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govie
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Faruko
Chile34169 Posts
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Faruko
Chile34169 Posts
pure theory crafting that A) doesnt help B) doesnt matter | ||
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govie
9334 Posts
On April 26 2015 21:46 Faruko wrote: IF this IF that for all we know misery+n0tail could have A) end in the same way or B) win the tournament pure theory crafting that A) doesnt help B) doesnt matter they won 2 tournaments with notail and misery. | ||
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Racket
3023 Posts
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Faruko
Chile34169 Posts
On April 26 2015 21:50 govie wrote: they won 2 tournaments with notail and misery. Yet they won much more money with rtz + zai (about 2 times the money) But whatever i was talking about this tournament, not their overall performance | ||
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
I still feel like the loss isn't that bad. If their worst prospect is that they can "only" take top 6 at TI well geez what a nice problem to have. They'll have a new, actually important meta to work with right after SL anyway. | ||
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zdarr
France375 Posts
I think TI secret will be fairly different from this SL secret, this 2 bo3 must have hurted their little girly feelings | ||
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goody153
44068 Posts
On April 26 2015 23:09 lolnoty wrote: Called it as soon as the trades happened that kuro/puppey support was a downgrade from bdn/puppey. You need someone that's sick at being poor as hell and still doing their job. It also helped puppey because where he's a good support is when he can be the wealthy support or jungler. I still feel like the loss isn't that bad. If their worst prospect is that they can "only" take top 6 at TI well geez what a nice problem to have. They'll have a new, actually important meta to work with right after SL anyway. people are overreacting just because they lost 2 b03 even EG loses to voidboys in a b03 and VG loses to some random chinese team .. hell even the ultraallstar DK loses to random teams last year i mean if this happened to empire or asus i doubt people would be "disband or they did the worst decision ever they should have never reshuffled " or "kky is the best carry he should have not switched" people are cherry picking like for example they don't seem to remember alot of games that kky throwed so so hard and just remember the good times like those PA diving on the well | ||
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
edit: I don't think they should disband but the play reminded me of Tinker when they had pajkatt and sing and it was just 5 people doing whatever with no trust for each other, or before that Na'vi from the first half of 2014. If they can't sort their shit out then something needs to change. | ||
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Racket
3023 Posts
On April 26 2015 23:52 goody153 wrote: people are overreacting just because they lost 2 b03 even EG loses to voidboys in a b03 and VG loses to some random chinese team .. hell even the ultraallstar DK loses to random teams last year i mean if this happened to empire or asus i doubt people would be "disband or they did the worst decision ever they should have never reshuffled " or "kky is the best carry he should have not switched" people are cherry picking like for example they don't seem to remember alot of games that kky throwed so so hard and just remember the good times like those PA diving on the well Exactly, like they only remember the best days of RTZ and so on. Also, it is harder to look bad as a super farmed carry, unless you are Xboct. People shouldjust chill and wait for the next patch. | ||
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kishill
Switzerland67 Posts
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Racket
3023 Posts
On April 27 2015 00:26 kishill wrote: i dont get why u argue here... i think this is the best thing what could happen... a wakeup call for Future tournaments and ti... It seems more like a polite conversation to me. | ||
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