EPTand also not bash your head against what is clearly the strongest hero in the meta. puppey beat naga back in TI2 but he only beat it for a couple games. we can remember wisp at TI3 and now sniper at SL
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
and also not bash your head against what is clearly the strongest hero in the meta. puppey beat naga back in TI2 but he only beat it for a couple games. we can remember wisp at TI3 and now sniper at SL | ||
Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On April 25 2015 22:49 Nagamundo wrote: I agree with him re: RTZ. RTZ is a great mid carry but only a decent safelane carry. That forces Puppey/Zai to draft around him resulting in stale and one-dimensional drafts. Of course, their loss here at Starladder can be attributed to many other factors (e.g. Zai's underperformance). I liked the Secret with Kuro on carry alot better. In that iteration, the only weak link was Fly. All they had to do was swap out Fly out for a top tier offlaner and Secret would be a championship contender. To be fair, top tier offlaners are probably the hardest position in pro dota to come by. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On April 26 2015 07:19 Elyvilon wrote: To be fair, top tier offlaners are probably the hardest position in pro dota to come by. Just look at what EG had to do to keep theirs. Bribed EE to boot Aui so Universe could be with his true love again. | ||
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Nikto
Slovakia410 Posts
On April 26 2015 04:23 bumwithagun wrote: This is some real revisionist history. Kuro got rekt by arteezy's lycan over and over in big games as super farmed AMs and Medusas. Kuro was not the best carry. Anyway Arteezy was by far their best player this tourney. S4 and Zai have looked awful. I used to think S4 was the man, but in the DAC playoff and now this tourney he's looked real shaky. Dying in lane, dying out of position, dying without having any impact. I will not say, kuro was the best when he returned to being carry, but man check those games, he was hardly super farmed when he lost to the lycan, let's be objective here... shall we | ||
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deadmau
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
Not that refusing to ban Sniper was their main issue. S4 and Zai playing blah really was but really fuck Sniper. Tired of seeing that hero. In any game. | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
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goody153
44239 Posts
i mean most pro's think rtz is really good i think you're the only one who doesn't. The old would have never gotten this kind of level of dominance where they only lose 5 b03 all time. Also DAC would have never happened for sure the old is waaayyy too inconsistent compared to the new one. | ||
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BoesFX
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
On April 26 2015 14:18 goody153 wrote: bandwagon at it's finest Secret loses 2 b03 then they are the worst team that should disband LMAO i mean most pro's think rtz is really good i think you're the only one who doesn't. The old would have never gotten this kind of level of dominance where they only lose 5 b03 all time. Also DAC would have never happened for sure the old is waaayyy too inconsistent compared to the new one. Man that straw man is unbelievably fucking dead, ggwp | ||
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PoulsenB
Poland7733 Posts
Seriously though, I hope they can bounce back and find their form again. With the amount of talent and experience they all have, I'm sure we'll see a lot of good games from them in the future. If any of you Secret boys read this thread, I want you to know that you have fans who will support you no matter what  | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On April 26 2015 13:28 FHDH wrote: Funny how resistant people are to the idea that the team got worse with the Arteezy trade. Funny how people still think it's individual players holding this team back from getting a LAN win. | ||
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Furikawari
France2522 Posts
On April 26 2015 16:35 WolfintheSheep wrote: Funny how people still think it's individual players holding this team back from getting a LAN win. Let's put it clearly, yeah maybe Puppey once was a great captain, but frankly, I dont see anything close to a small evidence thet he still deserves this title with secret. How many time did RTZ played SF in the last monthes? I feel like each time I watch a Secret game he is playing SF (yeah, sometimes Lycan). | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
They just had zero follow-up in any of them when other teams learned, and relied on skill and execution to win against the lesser teams. | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
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goody153
44239 Posts
On April 26 2015 17:27 rabidch wrote: zai was drafting at SL yeah 7uckingmad said that too .. when is naruto gonna draft so that after failing puppey gets control of the draft again | ||
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PoulsenB
Poland7733 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On April 26 2015 17:27 rabidch wrote: zai was drafting at SL Which is even worse. If the team itself doesn't have confidence in Puppey drafting, to the extent that they'll let someone else take the reigns at a LAN tournament, that says quite a bit. I mean, when Zai was on EG, he certainly wasn't fighting ppd for draft control. | ||
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