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On April 25 2015 22:26 Kupon3ss wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2015 22:01 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
I hope Secret doesn't turn out to be some sort of copy of DK from last year. They'd have to win something and look like favorites for something first
Remember DK losing MLG Columbus. Starladder was the only time DK really, really kicked ass. At all other points they never quite seemed to fulfill their promise. If people had thought about it in terms of the team's record rather than their idea of how good the players were, they'd have realized that 4th place at TI was pretty much right where DK should have been.
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On April 25 2015 23:14 Evander Berry Wall wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2015 22:26 Kupon3ss wrote:On April 25 2015 22:01 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
I hope Secret doesn't turn out to be some sort of copy of DK from last year. They'd have to win something and look like favorites for something first Remember DK losing MLG Columbus. Starladder was the only time DK really, really kicked ass. At all other points they never quite seemed to fulfill their promise. If people had thought about it in terms of the team's record rather than their idea of how good the players were, they'd have realized that 4th place at TI was pretty much right where DK should have been.
You mean DK winning WPC ACE season 1 is irrelevant, huh (hell, they dominated most of it as well).
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Troll and Sniper in the pool, v1lat about to be mad.
EDIT: The bone7 hate is real.
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I don't see how you can replace the best carry in the world in 6.82 (yes that's Kuroky) with a 2 hero wonder as your carry and expect to do better.
I also don't see how taking one of the world's best position 4s and throwing him in the offlane is expected to work.
I also don't see how taking one of the most celebrated and successful mids in western dota 2 and throwing him into wherever aforementioned 2 hero wonder doesn't want to lane is going to work better than his previous role either.
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They have a lot of work ahead of them in order to reach their potential as TI-contenders. The question is whether or not there's sufficient motivation and humbleness.
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honestly secret needs to work on their communication. like bot rax def in game 1 vs TM, kky should not have positioned himself like a tard and rtz could blink to safety when he needs to. also kuro pinging out smoke ganks and zai afk farming jungle and ignores it and dies. its shit like that which makes them lose games.
rtz is probably the best dota player atm hope secret can get their shit together and win TI5.
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On April 25 2015 23:46 HighTimeDotA wrote:
honestly secret needs to work on their communication. like bot rax def in game 1 vs TM, kky should not have positioned himself like a tard and rtz could blink to safety when he needs to. also kuro pinging out smoke ganks and zai afk farming jungle and ignores it and dies. its shit like that which makes them lose games.
rtz is probably the best dota player atm hope secret can get their shit together and win TI5.
i really dont think you can call rtz the best dota player right now
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not even the best carry, let alone the best player
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ppy is saving strats for ti5 relax every1
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rtz is barely top5 west in his position atm
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On April 25 2015 23:40 Corr wrote:
They have a lot of work ahead of them in order to reach their potential as TI-contenders. The question is whether or not there's sufficient motivation and humbleness.
This 100%, and I think that motivation will come if they can rally under some good puppey leadership.
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On April 25 2015 23:46 HighTimeDotA wrote:
honestly secret needs to work on their communication. like bot rax def in game 1 vs TM, kky should not have positioned himself like a tard and rtz could blink to safety when he needs to. also kuro pinging out smoke ganks and zai afk farming jungle and ignores it and dies. its shit like that which makes them lose games.
rtz is probably the best dota player atm hope secret can get their shit together and win TI5.
I'm the biggest Arteezy fanboy in the world but your last statement is delusional.
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On April 26 2015 02:00 blobrus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2015 23:46 HighTimeDotA wrote:
honestly secret needs to work on their communication. like bot rax def in game 1 vs TM, kky should not have positioned himself like a tard and rtz could blink to safety when he needs to. also kuro pinging out smoke ganks and zai afk farming jungle and ignores it and dies. its shit like that which makes them lose games.
rtz is probably the best dota player atm hope secret can get their shit together and win TI5. I'm the biggest Arteezy fanboy in the world but your last statement is delusional.
then youre obviously not the biggest rtz fanboy in the world
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Tinker confirmed better than secret
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Mason's post makes a lot of sense. Secretwere crushing at start when they played around RTZ and his greed.
The Synergy seems to be worse not better than in the first month or so from forming
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On April 26 2015 00:44 Provilicious wrote:
ppy is saving strats for ti5 relax every1
Arteezy retweeted that, so it must be true!
On April 25 2015 23:40 Corr wrote:
They have a lot of work ahead of them in order to reach their potential as TI-contenders. The question is whether or not there's sufficient motivation and humbleness.
Yep. the biggest challenge will be how they recover from this and improve.
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On April 25 2015 23:26 DropBear wrote:
I don't see how you can replace the best carry in the world in 6.82 (yes that's Kuroky) with a 2 hero wonder as your carry and expect to do better.
I also don't see how taking one of the world's best position 4s and throwing him in the offlane is expected to work.
I also don't see how taking one of the most celebrated and successful mids in western dota 2 and throwing him into wherever aforementioned 2 hero wonder doesn't want to lane is going to work better than his previous role either.
This is some real revisionist history. Kuro got rekt by arteezy's lycan over and over in big games as super farmed AMs and Medusas. Kuro was not the best carry. Anyway Arteezy was by far their best player this tourney. S4 and Zai have looked awful.
I used to think S4 was the man, but in the DAC playoff and now this tourney he's looked real shaky. Dying in lane, dying out of position, dying without having any impact.
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On April 26 2015 02:47 calmasfok wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2015 02:00 blobrus wrote:On April 25 2015 23:46 HighTimeDotA wrote:
honestly secret needs to work on their communication. like bot rax def in game 1 vs TM, kky should not have positioned himself like a tard and rtz could blink to safety when he needs to. also kuro pinging out smoke ganks and zai afk farming jungle and ignores it and dies. its shit like that which makes them lose games.
rtz is probably the best dota player atm hope secret can get their shit together and win TI5. I'm the biggest Arteezy fanboy in the world but your last statement is delusional. then youre obviously not the biggest rtz fanboy in the world
You can be a huge fanboy and still be realistic.
Also I just saw that Kuro best carry in 6.82 post ROFL
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On April 26 2015 02:57 Shaella wrote:
Tinker confirmed better than secret
you guys got rekt by Fng-NaVi edition
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the last time kuroky was the best carry of the world was 2008
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EPT
