EPTTeam Secret Discussion - Page 49
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Salazarz
Korea (South)2591 Posts
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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greebosnabble
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spudde123
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In addition, in my personal opinion results around the year should mean something even with the roster change in between. The old Secret placed well in all events they played other than Dreamleague (meaning that they had far better tournament placings than all other western teams except EG and c9), and Arteezy and Zai played for the most dominant western team for half of the season. And even if one were to weigh recent results far more, who would take Secret's place? Empire and c9 are already getting invited, and Alliance, NiP or VP hardly have sufficient results to put them anywhere close to Secret's overall performance. Of course Secret had a bad SL performance, but the only EU teams better than them in the event were still Alliance and c9. Everyone else essentially participated in the qualifiers but didn't get through. | ||
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govie
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Salazarz
Korea (South)2591 Posts
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bumwithagun
United States153 Posts
On April 28 2015 02:59 Salazarz wrote: I meant they didn't even win a series on a LAN with this roster since DAC, I guess they haven't had that much time to get more opportunities to do so but that's also their own fault. It's true that even in spite of that there aren't many teams with better results than Secret recently however if anything that is not so much a reason to invite Secret but rather an argument in favor having a more robust invite / qualifier system. Giving out TI invites based on results of online qualifiers seems rather cheap, to me at least. SL has been the only tier 1 tourney since.... 3rd place @ DAC guarantees an invite, there's nothing to argue about. | ||
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Churrass
573 Posts
On April 28 2015 02:59 Salazarz wrote: I meant they didn't even win a series on a LAN with this roster since DAC, I guess they haven't had that much time to get more opportunities to do so but that's also their own fault. It's true that even in spite of that there aren't many teams with better results than Secret recently however if anything that is not so much a reason to invite Secret but rather an argument in favor having a more robust invite / qualifier system. Giving out TI invites based on results of online qualifiers seems rather cheap, to me at least. who you gonna invite then ? no europe teams has Lan wins since TI4 ( someone will say Empire, winning against no chinese teams no C9 no Secret no EG in one of then and not qualify to ESL/Summit/DAC/Starladder/Redbull dont say much to me ) | ||
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greebosnabble
255 Posts
On April 28 2015 07:27 Churrass wrote: who you gonna invite then ? no europe teams has Lan wins since TI4 ( someone will say Empire, winning against no chinese teams no C9 no Secret no EG in one of then and not qualify to ESL/Summit/DAC/Starladder/Redbull dont say much to me ) The last time an EU team won a LAN with top tier Chinese teams was TI3. Since then the only wins have been SPG.int at MLG and EG at TS1, WEC, and DAC. | ||
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Vankuga
Panama2005 Posts
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/3433tk/kuroky_from_team_secret_ama/ Its such a joy to read/hear Kuro talk. Its still going. Some interesting stuff like: thank you very much! We practice individually, scrim together, pretty much like any other team We are working to really click together, I think we just need more time than others just because humans are different and we made a team out of players with rich experiences, so we need to set things straight We are more concerned about our teamplay than individual issues, as everyone has the obligation to work on himself in their weaknesses. In this tournament Zai and Puppey had the main input, we still need to figure out what works best for us as a team. Puppey is a strong voice as a leader, it has not really worked out for us so we are switching things up, as different methods work for different teams/players We have considered putting me on drafting, but we all talked it out yesterday and decided to let s4 do the drafting and be a captain We all agreed that we approached the draft faulty against Alliance, so the tree ban was probably unneccesary. I am still confident, every now and then doubts arise like we all have in our lifes, but I still realize that I can only appreciate my teammates and we have to try our best at least, no matter the result in the end. Our new director is a relaxed guy, he helped us set up a bootcamp so he has my gratitude Team Secret will probably end up as a brand, but all plans are set after Ti5, and we never know what will happen after the season is over. The plans of Kemal, our team director, will mainly be set by then so I am not thinking about it too much right now We are experimenting as a team, we want to learn as much as possible together and explore our options. We felt it is needed to do so because we have 5 individuals who come from rather strong backgrounds and everyone has different ideas how to play the game. I feel Zai did not really have the chance to convey himself as a drafter, as we had issues at hand that led to a lot of interference, so I wouldn't take any judgement on his drafting capablities and see it as a team failure more than anything else | ||
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caiovigg
Brazil1802 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
This is starting to look familiar... | ||
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
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Faruko
Chile34169 Posts
He says a lot of stuff, like morale is better and they will work hard, they had some issues, etc... He also said this "Team Secret will probably end up as a brand" :D SPARKS_DOTA Are you still at all in touch with Funn1k, Dendi or Xboct? zeroKuroKy yea, but mostly with Dendi and funn1k. We still cheer each other up when we both go through rough times! WHAT ? they are still friends ? but people on LD told me that they hate each other !!! MADNESS Like i said, the whole drama is on the comunity, not on the players. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
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Faruko
Chile34169 Posts
On April 28 2015 10:53 WolfintheSheep wrote: Odd you say that, because he basically admitted that there was a lot of backroom drama hurting the team. Thats from a profesional point of view, it doesnt necessarily have to do with their friendship or stuff They could (and will) have problems as co-workers, but you dont have to bring that to your life itself, which is pretty much what some people dont get | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
Yeah this team is very sick right now. I hope they get better. | ||
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Salazarz
Korea (South)2591 Posts
On April 28 2015 04:36 bumwithagun wrote: SL has been the only tier 1 tourney since.... 3rd place @ DAC guarantees an invite, there's nothing to argue about. There's a lot to argue about when we're in a situation where having a THIRD place in ONE event may be enough to warrant a TI invite... Not even saying this as criticism to Team Secret or an argument as to whether they should be invited or not, rather the scene / TI invite system as a whole. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10644 Posts
On April 28 2015 10:05 WolfintheSheep wrote: Captain and drafter shuffling... This is starting to look familiar... Lets hope none of them writes a blog about it...  | ||
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