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hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
March 07 2016 19:29 GMT
#2761
It's hilarious how EE gets more criticism of his performance than any other carry even when he wins the goddamn tournament. People were even more restrained with the RTZ flames and he literally shat the bed both series against Secret/TL.

If EE died in a permasprout to bomb out of the tournament I'm pretty sure there'd by about 5 pages of 'kick EE' by now.

Hating EE is a religion. It's all about fitting facts to the predetermined narrative.
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
March 07 2016 19:42 GMT
#2762
pretty sure the most productive thing to do at this point is to ignore such posts, hope of seeing them stopping is almost lost
pat777
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States356 Posts
March 07 2016 19:48 GMT
#2763
Well, at least Envy seems to like tanking flames for his team based on how he describes ROTK. His haters are playing into his hands.
latan
Profile Joined July 2010
740 Posts
March 07 2016 20:32 GMT
#2764
On March 08 2016 04:28 Tien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2016 04:05 latan wrote:
On March 08 2016 02:07 Alpino wrote:
On March 08 2016 01:58 latan wrote:
Honestly secret carried EE all the way through. Most of the time it felt like they won games 4v5, and a even a few times EE put everything at risk. If they hadn't won it all I'd be bettin on his replacement, but since he showed some restraint in the last couple of series and they indeed won it all I'm sure puppey will give him another chance to grow.


Don't worrry you felt that way because your understanding of dota is poor. Come on do you really think it's possible to win a major playing 4v5?


Words were chosen to convey particular meanings not to be interpreted freely.

On March 08 2016 02:13 Nakama wrote:
On March 08 2016 02:07 Alpino wrote:
On March 08 2016 01:58 latan wrote:
Honestly secret carried EE all the way through. Most of the time it felt like they won games 4v5, and a even a few times EE put everything at risk. If they hadn't won it all I'd be bettin on his replacement, but since he showed some restraint in the last couple of series and they indeed won it all I'm sure puppey will give him another chance to grow.


Don't worrry you felt that way because your understanding of dota is poor. Come on do you really think it's possible to win a major playing 4v5?




Why you even try dude..... i mean the closest performance/single desicion i saw the last few months, that lead to a Team victory by a singel player was EEs 2x Rapier game vs EG, and his unconventional Rapier with slark vs Liquid this Major.
Let the haters hate


Yes, EE's double rapier ember play got them their finals in frankfurt. It was also EE's play that made them so dependant on it, he cornered his own team into an inflexible strategy.

And That rapier build on slakr did nothing but risk throwing, the game was won. he could've bought anything at that point and still win, he could've even went abyssal vs bkb heavy team. but no, EE's gonna EE.



Wow, the ignorance of this post is just beyond.

It was EE's fault that the team had to go double rapiers, cornering them into that strategy, and they won with it so its also his fault they won? What kind of mental gymnastics is going on here.

EE is one of if not the best carry in the scene today.


It's easy to make anything seem ignorant if you just read what you want and not what its written.
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-07 20:48:25
March 07 2016 20:45 GMT
#2765
idk why people blame EE solely for losing double rax

Both he and w33 had buyback, the bigger problem was Puppey and PLD got caught when Liquid went highground

After Secret defend their last rax, Draskyl even points out that what set them so far behind was the two supports getting caught, because w33 and EE having BB meant they could've made a high ground defense
rip
Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2065 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-08 02:48:18
March 08 2016 02:47 GMT
#2766
Dota 2 Major yt put out a PLD Lion tribute



Rewatching some of these/looking at some plays in PLD's PoV, really impressed especially with his positioning and his skill decision making. My favorites were around 0:50 (stops exactly out of ravage range) the fight ~2:55 after buybacks (also barely skirts out of ravage, probably a little by accident this time), 4:15, and 8:00
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
March 08 2016 03:58 GMT
#2767
Sick sick plays by Pie, the dude is insanely good
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
March 08 2016 04:10 GMT
#2768
PLD lion is the kind of thing that makes me want to learn to play support. This guy is insane.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-08 07:42:14
March 08 2016 07:41 GMT
#2769
On March 08 2016 04:29 hariooo wrote:
It's hilarious how EE gets more criticism of his performance than any other carry even when he wins the goddamn tournament. People were even more restrained with the RTZ flames and he literally shat the bed both series against Secret/TL.

If EE died in a permasprout to bomb out of the tournament I'm pretty sure there'd by about 5 pages of 'kick EE' by now.

Hating EE is a religion. It's all about fitting facts to the predetermined narrative.

Well on the other hand, people are also very quick in calling him the best carry in the world. He just gets a lot of attention, good or bad. Which tournament was it, where he played ember all the time? there were like 10 threads on the dota reddit frontpage, about how great ee is.
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7748 Posts
March 08 2016 11:47 GMT
#2770
Honestly, there are several top carry players right now, and EE-sama is definitely one of them. He has his Clown9 moments here and there (show me a carry who doesn't fuck up from time to time, smh), but overall his play, especially in semis and the grand final, was top-notch. The guy placed 2nd and 1st in two Majors, that makes him legit in my eyes.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
March 08 2016 18:08 GMT
#2771
On March 07 2016 09:06 TomatoBisque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2016 08:50 spudde123 wrote:
On March 07 2016 08:34 TomatoBisque wrote:
Is there an English translation for that PLD interview?


I don't think so, the twitch vod is also muted due to music on twitch but they've uploaded their other stuff on youtube so maybe that will come there later too so I can listen to it again. I can understand most of it and could translate a bit but maybe there would be some fully native speakers willing to do it here.

Would be cool to see




Alright here is the PLD interview after WB finals against TL. It's in Swedish, I'll recap it a bit but if I get something wrong feel free to correct me, I'm not a native speaker.

- Interviewer calls PLD "Lion king" to start
- He says they hadn't played that much Slark, so the problem was they weren't really taking any fights. And then they did a small series of mistakes and Liquid got 2 lanes
- He says that the decision to buy divine was 100% EE, he was suggesting abyssal and EE was just shaking his head and bought a divine
- He talks about the fight near the rosh pit which turned the game where he blinked just a few inches to dodge an autoattack. He says that he felt all the time that he was going to live and was calm.
- He says that in the beginning of the game he felt he was playing close to perfect, but later on he was jumping the gun a bit and going too close and just getting killed by DP/OD in fights
- I don't understand this completely, but I think he says that after w33 died next to their base (starting the events that lead to them losing 2 rax) PLD got a bit mad because 5 seconds earlier he had been there and had thought it's too dangerous and went back, and w33 just proceeded to walk there and get caught
- Puppey calmed them down and then EE took control of what the team should do after that
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
March 09 2016 00:12 GMT
#2772
Cool, thanks!
rip
pat777
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States356 Posts
March 11 2016 16:23 GMT
#2773
https://ask.fm/EternaLEnVy1991/answers/134908375003

LOL, is this some troll your teammate answer?
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-11 18:27:57
March 11 2016 18:25 GMT
#2774
That sounds like a troll response

He also said he doesn't think Cyborgmatt will ever pay him and has a lot of other kind of troll responses
rip
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
March 11 2016 18:28 GMT
#2775
the best trolls have a kernel of truth to them
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
KingThorDan.Extreme
Profile Joined March 2016
United States9 Posts
March 12 2016 05:10 GMT
#2776
its truth

i mean the dude is 2meters tall...
how can you be no scared
Bswhunter
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia954 Posts
March 14 2016 08:49 GMT
#2777
On March 08 2016 13:10 Alpino wrote:
PLD lion is the kind of thing that makes me want to learn to play support. This guy is insane.

Yeah I've been playing a lot of Lion lately in ranked after seeing PLD. I really want to sit down at some point and seriously analyze his play, both at Shanghai and in pub games
Stop browsing and do whatever it is you're supposed to do. TL will still be here when you get back
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
March 14 2016 08:53 GMT
#2778
I haven't played at all for a while, but Lion was always one of my favourite heroes! Have to go back sometime

In other news, just saw this on their twitter account

[image loading]
There can only be one Geisterkarle
hound_98
Profile Joined January 2015
United States66 Posts
March 19 2016 22:40 GMT
#2779
Commenting on the recent NaVi match:
It amazes me how team secret can play SO intelligently in some games, but then the next game they just don't seem to be able to execute their game plan at all. I feel this team can only beat themselves, cause each player on secret is insanely good. When they fail to execute cohesively as a team is the only way these guys can lose imo.
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
March 19 2016 23:30 GMT
#2780
single elim is meh. if losing 2 games meant that much the last 2 major winners already lost in group stage
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