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lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
November 14 2015 17:53 GMT
#1801
I really dont understand. I've seen confidence and smart bans in their draft after TI5, and now it's all gone? 1 out of 4 games had an draft/ban that was good. Rest is terrible. In the groupstage of all places. I really really dont understand. Ofc they have an idea of what works for them and what doesn't. But looking from the draft, it feels like they dont trust eachother to anything but collecting losses! Feels like downfall-alliance again. I really really hope they can do better in LB. At least show 3-4 really good games before dropping out.
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
November 14 2015 17:54 GMT
#1802
They drafted so dumb it hurt
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
November 14 2015 17:57 GMT
#1803
On November 15 2015 02:52 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2015 17:37 DucK- wrote:
I'm interested to see how well or badly alliance would do against quality oppositions.


Didn't do too well I guess.


Well. Not gonna say anything too early, but EHOME was rated top 4 by alot of ppl before the majors, and CDEC just rolled them over. Also Mineski was close to beating CDEC. My guess is that Mineski is slightly underestimated, and A is just the worse team in this group. We'll see in the end, but just maybe the teams in our group will end up quite high, even mineski.

The worst part today was like they did everything badly. They aren't as bad as we saw today. Something, or everything, was off. Sad. But lets hope for a good LB.
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-14 18:00:24
November 14 2015 17:57 GMT
#1804
They couldn't handle the pressure of big event, that's it. That drow pick in game 1... so many mistakes in positioning, supports in front of the carries, they haven't played this bad for months, i just hope they won't break after the event, it's all experience. I'm sure that if they had faced mineski first or any other opponents xcept CDEC they would've done way better.
The Real Power~
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
November 14 2015 17:58 GMT
#1805
On November 15 2015 02:53 lookfirewood wrote:
I really dont understand. I've seen confidence and smart bans in their draft after TI5, and now it's all gone? 1 out of 4 games had an draft/ban that was good. Rest is terrible. In the groupstage of all places. I really really dont understand. Ofc they have an idea of what works for them and what doesn't. But looking from the draft, it feels like they dont trust eachother to anything but collecting losses! Feels like downfall-alliance again. I really really hope they can do better in LB. At least show 3-4 really good games before dropping out.

what don't you understand? alliance isn't good enough to beat tier 1 teams, they haven't been for a very long time. ya'll got baited into high hopes cuz they beat a crumbling empire a bunch of times and power rangers lol. face the facts, loda's done, bulldog's done, they are one trick ponies and patch players. that was good enough 2 years ago, not nearly enough now. the competition's 10x tougher and they haven't improved or adapted. alliance will have a shot when bulldog and loda decide to leave and stop holding the team back.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
November 14 2015 18:00 GMT
#1806
LB miracle run I believe.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
November 14 2015 18:03 GMT
#1807
I can still be a supporter of a team even if they play poorly, but today they didn't just play poorly. The played stupid and they drafted even worse. I can definitely not be a supporter of stupidity
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
November 14 2015 18:24 GMT
#1808
just wait for cinderella story guys
6nnn
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
November 14 2015 18:31 GMT
#1809
On November 15 2015 02:57 Zea! wrote:
They couldn't handle the pressure of big event, that's it. That drow pick in game 1... so many mistakes in positioning, supports in front of the carries, they haven't played this bad for months, i just hope they won't break after the event, it's all experience. I'm sure that if they had faced mineski first or any other opponents xcept CDEC they would've done way better.


They were doing big events for ages with the previous roster , if anything the other teams had it easier cuz it wasnt on stage so less pressure , but they threw away EVERYTHING they did in the last couple of months drafting weird ass drafts , tiltting after losses to draft even worse.... do we know who they are playing in the lower bracket yet?
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
November 14 2015 18:32 GMT
#1810
On November 15 2015 03:24 sunrazgriz wrote:
just wait for cinderella story guys


The team spirit is probably in the gutter , they will need serious mental fortitude to overcome such a day 1....
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
November 14 2015 18:39 GMT
#1811
On November 15 2015 03:32 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2015 03:24 sunrazgriz wrote:
just wait for cinderella story guys


The team spirit is probably in the gutter , they will need serious mental fortitude to overcome such a day 1....

yeah i know , i think they have the potential, they beat vega , tier 1 direct invite team last week
need a proper draft and hope doesnt choke
6nnn
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-14 18:48:00
November 14 2015 18:47 GMT
#1812
On November 15 2015 03:31 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2015 02:57 Zea! wrote:
They couldn't handle the pressure of big event, that's it. That drow pick in game 1... so many mistakes in positioning, supports in front of the carries, they haven't played this bad for months, i just hope they won't break after the event, it's all experience. I'm sure that if they had faced mineski first or any other opponents xcept CDEC they would've done way better.


They were doing big events for ages with the previous roster , if anything the other teams had it easier cuz it wasnt on stage so less pressure , but they threw away EVERYTHING they did in the last couple of months drafting weird ass drafts , tiltting after losses to draft even worse.... do we know who they are playing in the lower bracket yet?


What? Except s4, Last BIG event they attended was TI4 almost two years ago... they came into this with all the pressure of showing they are back ecc. ecc., they couldn't handle it plus they had to play their first game against arguably one of the best chinese teams atm (when was last time they faced a chinese team?).
The Real Power~
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
November 14 2015 18:50 GMT
#1813
Btw, Mineski are beating EHOME right now, they aren't a joke team as other idiots try to make it be
The Real Power~
kishill
Profile Joined April 2015
Switzerland67 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-14 19:00:07
November 14 2015 18:57 GMT
#1814
please not a 0:5 fight damnit!!!

Edit
wow mineski cinda story?
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
November 14 2015 19:06 GMT
#1815
On November 15 2015 03:50 Zea! wrote:
Btw, Mineski are beating EHOME right now, they aren't a joke team as other idiots try to make it be

Mineski isn't the idiot team, Alliance is. Got rekt by Huskar, let him through in game 2 as well. So fucking stupid
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-14 19:23:22
November 14 2015 19:19 GMT
#1816
On November 15 2015 02:58 Kabras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2015 02:53 lookfirewood wrote:
I really dont understand. I've seen confidence and smart bans in their draft after TI5, and now it's all gone? 1 out of 4 games had an draft/ban that was good. Rest is terrible. In the groupstage of all places. I really really dont understand. Ofc they have an idea of what works for them and what doesn't. But looking from the draft, it feels like they dont trust eachother to anything but collecting losses! Feels like downfall-alliance again. I really really hope they can do better in LB. At least show 3-4 really good games before dropping out.

what don't you understand? alliance isn't good enough to beat tier 1 teams, they haven't been for a very long time. ya'll got baited into high hopes cuz they beat a crumbling empire a bunch of times and power rangers lol. face the facts, loda's done, bulldog's done, they are one trick ponies and patch players. that was good enough 2 years ago, not nearly enough now. the competition's 10x tougher and they haven't improved or adapted. alliance will have a shot when bulldog and loda decide to leave and stop holding the team back.


That might be true. They might not be better than any of the teams in this Major. But that doesn't explain the terrible terrible drafts. Or the extremely slow (or lack of) TPs. Did you even read what I posted?
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-14 21:03:06
November 14 2015 20:53 GMT
#1817
this is pretty much what i expected of alliance. they only got here because of rat dota. when you counter it properly they just loose. of course im still a little sour as a liquid fan, but my point still stands. nice schadenfreude anyway;)
lowdice
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden306 Posts
November 14 2015 21:03 GMT
#1818
On November 15 2015 05:53 hunter_x wrote:
this is pretty much what i expected of alliance. they only got here because of rat dota. when you counter it properly they just loose. of course im still a little sour as a liquid fan, but my point still stands.


Really? a little?
You only have a little spark of madness, you mustn't lose it!
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
November 14 2015 21:12 GMT
#1819
On November 15 2015 05:53 hunter_x wrote:
this is pretty much what i expected of alliance. they only got here because of rat dota. when you counter it properly they just loose. of course im still a little sour as a liquid fan, but my point still stands. nice schadenfreude anyway;)

lol what a tool

User was warned for this post
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
November 14 2015 22:17 GMT
#1820
On November 15 2015 06:03 lowdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2015 05:53 hunter_x wrote:
this is pretty much what i expected of alliance. they only got here because of rat dota. when you counter it properly they just loose. of course im still a little sour as a liquid fan, but my point still stands.


Really? a little?


yeah a little bit. i still think liquid is the better team. and alliance only win against better teams with rat dota. and when the rat fails they just loose, because there is no plan b. just my opinion, nobody has to agree...
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