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jack_knife
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany343 Posts
October 27 2016 18:43 GMT
#4361
such a throw...
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
October 27 2016 18:49 GMT
#4362
Well, tbh Liquid should've finished the game much earlier (13k gold lead thrown first), and they even played with Matumbaman on support lol
The Real Power~
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
October 27 2016 19:01 GMT
#4363
Was bulldog casting this game? What was his reaction? Must feel bad...
jack_knife
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany343 Posts
October 27 2016 21:23 GMT
#4364
2-3 already -_-
chairs
Profile Joined June 2015
Singapore120 Posts
October 28 2016 05:30 GMT
#4365
this is gonna one tough day, good luck to the boys!
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
October 28 2016 08:09 GMT
#4366
Yeah.. Fingers crossed
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
October 28 2016 08:30 GMT
#4367
Actually, kinda complicated, but with the correct wins A can go through with 3-1 today.
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
October 28 2016 10:18 GMT
#4368
Alright. That was a damn stupid loss. Now it's insanely hard to go throught. They gotta win 3 and key losses on teams they're gonna end up on the same score as. Jesus...
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
HeYmaney
Profile Joined August 2015
Switzerland193 Posts
October 28 2016 10:48 GMT
#4369
Phew....
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
October 28 2016 11:26 GMT
#4370
Hmmm you think this team will stay together now that they are not going to the major? I think at least limmp needs to go, hes just so hit amd miss/ not good enough. Jonasonfan is also quite weak on a lot of heroes. Handsken is decent i think, he should stay.
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
October 28 2016 11:38 GMT
#4371
I would say the opposite. This tour handsken have been the weak link and Limp has been quite solid. Jonas impressed me as well. But I have no clue if they will stick together or not. Missing a major qualifier meaning they will most likely have no chance in hell, ever, vs t1 teams. I might be wrong but it sure seems as if this team cant stay together.

Tbh I think the package deal Handsken and Limmp was a bad idea. Thought so when it first happened, and think so now.
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
HeYmaney
Profile Joined August 2015
Switzerland193 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-28 13:44:55
October 28 2016 13:44 GMT
#4372
I also found Limmp to play quite well (though I couldn't focus on each game) and imho he had a lot more impact on the past games than Loda.

AB and Akke being afk, we can still hope that they get that guy miCKe and part ways with the NiP trio. I mean if they continue playing under [A] flag, I'm not sure Loda would sign for a long-term contract. I don't know... We'll see.
jack_knife
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany343 Posts
October 28 2016 14:12 GMT
#4373
2-6 already... considering s4 was a decent mid-laner, Limmp is a litte bit medicore but he has different hero pool as s4 and still played better than loda. jonassomfan is not good enough as a replacement of bulldog, he neighter farmed well nor created space for team.
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
October 28 2016 14:25 GMT
#4374
On October 28 2016 22:44 HeYmaney wrote:
I also found Limmp to play quite well (though I couldn't focus on each game) and imho he had a lot more impact on the past games than Loda.

AB and Akke being afk, we can still hope that they get that guy miCKe and part ways with the NiP trio. I mean if they continue playing under [A] flag, I'm not sure Loda would sign for a long-term contract. I don't know... We'll see.


Loda gotta step down from farm heroes then. Haven seen a lot from micke but I think he's more of a farm mid. And with abd that will be insane. Maybe even abd for 1,micke 2 and loda offlane 3. Dunno.
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-28 19:59:07
October 28 2016 19:21 GMT
#4375
I'm really sad. Sad and angry. Lots of things aren't working in this new roster:

1. HANDSKEN: He is not a good player nor a good captain. I mean, who is Handsken to force EGM, one of the best position 4 players in the world to play as a 5th? When was clear that it didn't work out, he persisted in playing the position 4 when clearly the skill isn't there, but even worse, he decided to play Io and Rubik, the best EGM heroes himself instead of giving them to him, that's not smart, creative, or what else... that's plain stupid or arrogant. Please Akke, if you read this, come back ...
2. LIMMP: Limmp is not a bad player. Ofc, he's really skilled, a farm-machine and can carry games but.... he's a big big thrower, he's simply not smart. A lot of unnecessary risky buybacks that can turn in a double edge, yolo plays, overconfidence are his weak points and i don't see lots of margins to grow for him, he's a formed player, these were his weaknesses two years ago, no signs of improving on those (he improved in everything else, tho), not the main problem for sure, but not the ray of light needed as well.
3. JONASSOMFAN: Hit or miss player. That's it. He can do a really good game and be the worst player ever existed in the next one, he's the player with most room to grow tho... so i dunno. BUT, you have to compare what we had before.... and the comparison is embarassing for the poor Jonas. The more you watch this iteration of Alliance the more you appreciate Bulldog, for his uniqueness style of farming offlane machine player. He's one of those offlaners that can win you the games alone (lost count of the games he singlehandedly won for us on NP, Sylla, Broodmama or beastmasters), he may not have a huge hero pool, but the heroes he could play he was simply a GOD, a beast who could win you games alone. Only offlaners that comes to my mind who can win you games alone are Universe, Faith Bian, Zai... but not with farming heroes, that's Bulldog uniqueness and i miss him.
4. LODA: i don't understand... in theory Loda should've been the one to benefit the most out of this new roster, cause with Bulldog's absence he could be the fulcrum of the team, he could be the top farmer and possibly he could have a team to work around him. Nothing of that happened, rather we see him even farming LESS than previous iteration, very often in the MIDDLE of networth in the games, very low impact... i can't understand... something clearly not working in Handsken plans...
5. EGM: absolutely wasted, i seriously have headaches watching him sacrificed in a role he isn't clearly comfortable with... and the funny thing is that even if he has to be a ward bitch, he usually ends games with more networth than Handsken...


That's my thoughts, and i hope Loda stops being so much influenced by Handsken, wtf, he has never been so accomodating to one player who has proven nothing for now. He forced him to pick Limmp over m'icke, he's forcing him to waste EGM's potential into 5th position and he forces him to still play too many times low impact carries as slardar, naix...
Now, what i think Loda should do after this DISASTER, because we have to open our eyes, for the good of this team, these qualifier have been absolutely PAINFUL, and it was really clear since first games that something was wrong within the team. I hope Loda gets back Alliance's reins and kick Handsken, call back Joakim, a real world class support, put EGM back to his position and let him draft and be the captain of the team, he can do it.
Then, we need some new young blood, i'd like to see m'icke instead of Limmp, nothing against him, but i honestly think m'icke has a lot of room to grow, he can be a beast if given the time and right enviroment, while i think Limmp has reached his max potential.
For the offlane.... i don't know, i love Henrik and i'll be always here for him but i don't even know if at the moment he has the right mindset to play competitive Dota... i think at the moment he doesn't want to, and maybe not with Alliance.
Well, i think Jonass can stay then, he has some potential, but he has to improve fast.
So, i'd like a Loda-Akke-EGM-m'icke-Jonassomfan/Bulldog lineup ... if this won't happen, i fear we'll float into mediocrity 'till the next majors... i can't understand some people that were bashing the real Alliance when we were constantly a top 10 team in the world (often eliminated in 2-1 series... we could work on our weaknesses Gustav, goddamn why were you so impatient ) and now are so lenient when we just witnessed the WORST result ever reached by Alliance in a Valve tournament (even worse than the TI5 qualifiers, where at least, we still had a chance at the last game of the group).
Sorry for the long post but Loda, i love you and i love Alliance, and i hope you read it.


Honestly, if they keep this roster and they'll prove me wrong, i'll be happy but for the moment... what i feared, happened.

LONG LIVE ALLIANCE



Post-scriptum:

I think i'll cheer for Gustav these majors, but without Alliance, they already are shit for me.
The Real Power~
WakaDoDo
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden1183 Posts
October 28 2016 23:51 GMT
#4376
LONG LIVE [A]LLIANCE
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
October 29 2016 06:25 GMT
#4377
the only player who i think playing decent is limmp , ironically cause we want micke so bad
i wish good luck to all of them in the future , but i will keep rooting for the brand
6nnn
TriCkster135
Profile Joined June 2016
Germany80 Posts
October 29 2016 07:14 GMT
#4378
I didn't watch all the alliance games, but the ones I watched EGM was by far the best player on [A]. Also Limmp played better than i expected him to play.

Maybe get Era as a carry and let Loda play offlane. EGM as 4. Pajkatt as new Captain and 5 maybe?
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
October 29 2016 11:11 GMT
#4379
An interesting new team would be abd, micke, loda, EGM, Pablo. Give it a year.
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
October 29 2016 16:44 GMT
#4380
On October 29 2016 20:11 lookfirewood wrote:
An interesting new team would be abd, micke, loda, EGM, Pablo. Give it a year.


Yea, this could work as well, maybe with Pieliedie for Pablo, just hope they don't let things stay as they're now.
The Real Power~
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