EPT[Updated] EE and Misery blog about Team Secret - Page 14
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
On October 12 2016 01:08 Saechiis wrote: Well not all that unexpected after KKY, N0tail, and Fly were not getting paid long ago, while PPY all seemed happy and content.These stories paint a Puppey that has lost his Dota passion and is abusing his established position to make a comfortable living. | ||
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kju
6143 Posts
On October 11 2016 12:12 Dysisa wrote: As funny as I do find the video to be, I fully agree that people are making a bigger deal out of the monitor smashing video than it is. Everyone snaps sooner or later, because of something or another. For comparison, over in the Street Fighter community we have a guy named Sanford Kelly. He has a reputation for getting a little angry at times, but he's not some kinda horrible person, far from it. The video is definitely not a good sign, but it's also not some sort of undeniable proof of that he is a monster. i've seen threads on pokerforums where winning players smash their monitor on a weekly basis or completely trash their table. if puppey did that once it's barely worth mentioning although obviously funny to watch. the community is overreacting as usual, the delayed payment sucks and should be called out. calling for puppeys head/banning secret from tournaments is fucking retarded. | ||
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
On October 12 2016 01:20 kju wrote: I think that outside the context of the situation, it is also related to how opposite it is of the public image of PPY, who has always come off as this calm and collected guy, even in stressful situations.i've seen threads on pokerforums where winning players smash their monitor on a weekly basis or completely trash their table. if puppey did that once it's barely worth mentioning although obviously funny to watch. the community is overreacting as usual, the delayed payment sucks and should be called out. calling for puppeys head/banning secret from tournaments is fucking retarded. If this was like say, Ar1se, I think people would expect this, and shrug at this part. | ||
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zolasell
Greece288 Posts
On October 12 2016 01:23 Dracolich70 wrote: I think that outside the context of the situation, it is also related to how opposite it is of the public image of PPY, who has always come off as this calm and collected guy, even in stressful situations. If this was like say, Ar1se, I think people would expect this, and shrug at this part. Everyone is forgeting that puppey lied about breaking it and when EE said he had video evidence he told him that if he shawed it he would get kicked out of secret. | ||
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
On October 12 2016 01:35 zolasell wrote: I don't think the lie is of essence, but the reveal of a conflicting and detrimental image of PPY.Everyone is forgeting that puppey lied about breaking it and when EE said he had video evidence he told him that if he shawed it he would get kicked out of secret. | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
Waow! User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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zolasell
Greece288 Posts
On October 12 2016 01:50 Dracolich70 wrote: I don't think people forget what EE has told us. Regardlessly, it is not something that someone who thrives on his public image would want, and it now surfaces 1½ years later, rather than being caught in a lie. I don't think the threat was about the lie, but the public image. I think that the reason EE said this is not to prove that puppey rages a lot but to talk about how he was threatened by him. | ||
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
On October 12 2016 01:55 zolasell wrote: The essence is not the lie, but the reveal of a lesser endearing image of PPY. I am sure the threat was part of why EE said it, both to reveal the lengths that PPY would go to to protect his image, but also his personality.I think that the reason EE said this is not to prove that puppey rages a lot but to talk about how he was threatened by him. | ||
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Beyond Magic
Finland130 Posts
There must have been money coming in. Then again. The players haven't made any deals about getting sponsor money so... kinda hard to say is there even any reason to flame about that. Lot of this is also to blame on secret players for not getting any contracts done. Kind of a clusterfuck. | ||
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Nikto
Slovakia410 Posts
apart from that, all this is speculation here, we shall see what happens next if at all anything | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
The fact that the contracts were oral only emphasizes the bad business. | ||
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Zea!
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
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Emnjay808
United States10665 Posts
On October 12 2016 04:36 Zea! wrote: So still no answer/clarification by Secret yet?.... That's unbelievable History repeats itself. | ||
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Latham
9572 Posts
On October 12 2016 04:36 Zea! wrote: So still no answer/clarification by Secret yet?.... That's unbelievable You actually expect one? They'll keep their mouths shut I'm sure, maybe press legal charges against Envy if possible. Besides, what on Earth could they possibly write to make this look better for themselves except a complete apology and a decision to disband? | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On October 12 2016 05:11 Latham wrote: You actually expect one? They'll keep their mouths shut I'm sure, maybe press legal charges against Envy if possible. Besides, what on Earth could they possibly write to make this look better for themselves except a complete apology and a decision to disband? Lol legal charges against envy? Get a reality check... this isn't a tv show. | ||
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wims80
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On October 12 2016 03:29 Nikto wrote: about these oral contracts, tell that to fifa, oral contracts at the end mean nothing and from the transcripts, both kemal and puppey dispute EE's claims, so that's that apart from that, all this is speculation here, we shall see what happens next if at all anything Yeah, nobody is expecting these oral contracts to be upheld. That's not what anyone is talking about; there isn't going to be some legal case here. But even ignoring the illegality, if you think Puppey and Kemal have behaved remotely acceptably by going back on their promise regarding hundreds of thousands of dollars and hiding that, along with late payment, issues with communication, etc., you have a really fucked up understanding of what's OK behaviour, especially given that the entire purpose of Secret was to work for the players and be honest and trustworthy and non-shady and etc. Denying these accusations is just blind. We have more than enough evidence. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
If valve doesn't care, then formal contracts are mere pieces of paper because is way too impractical to do international litigation. | ||
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