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lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
March 12 2012 15:47 GMT
#361
What I love the most hardcore mode is that people play the game completely differently without the game itself ever changing. It reminds you how careless and lazy you were on your first run through. Shows you that those "easy mobs" early on were not easy at all when death was actually something you cared about. And the more you leveled, the stronger you got, but the more careful you were because you feared losing all that investment. So it didn't matter that you got the sword of awesome, those pack of zombies still scared you.
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1961 Posts
March 12 2012 16:17 GMT
#362
Well, i'd love to start my D3-experience with HC but unfortunately, i am starting it with a lan party. And there is nothing as stupid as having one of your 3 buddies die at level 21. Now you need to level to 21 while we make some nice chili, right. After eating, buddie number 2 dies. It was hard enough in Diablo 2 with just one buddy of mine :D

And after the lan, w want to keep playing with each other of course, so, still no HC for me.
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
March 12 2012 17:23 GMT
#363
On March 13 2012 01:17 Broetchenholer wrote:
Well, i'd love to start my D3-experience with HC but unfortunately, i am starting it with a lan party. And there is nothing as stupid as having one of your 3 buddies die at level 21. Now you need to level to 21 while we make some nice chili, right. After eating, buddie number 2 dies. It was hard enough in Diablo 2 with just one buddy of mine :D

And after the lan, w want to keep playing with each other of course, so, still no HC for me.

How sweet you waited for him

Just restart with a new game, keep your level 21 and have your friend follow along. Eventually you'll be a rag tag team of various level adventurers helping each other out to get through content.
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
battyone
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States180 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-12 19:00:46
March 12 2012 19:00 GMT
#364
I play hardcore because I started this genre of games with Rogue and Hack (and later Nethack) and am used to the die on your quest and you're done situations. It also makes you think a lot harder about what you are doing, I died carelessly running around in beta on HC (ran into a pack that had some teleport blues and knockback blues...got surrounded, ragdolled, died.) It makes you a lot more careful and makes the game that much more fun to me. (And fusturating when you do lose a character)

*EDIT -- who is down on launch day to speed run normal so that we can roll hardcore characters? :D
Let's Go Mets!
Auru
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom75 Posts
March 12 2012 19:07 GMT
#365
Some of the most fun i've had playing games was playing HC in D2.. the rush you get when you barely escape something, or when you charge in knowing that this might be your very last whirlwind... I loved it

I'll play d3 through normal with all the characters, but i'm looking forward to hardcore the most... no crappy dial up connection to randomly kill me THIS TIME :D
Rybka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States836 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-12 22:13:01
March 12 2012 22:11 GMT
#366
I think they have upped the difficulty substantially on HC mode as well. I played HC for the first time last night and noticed significantly more unique mob groups, like the ones Bashiok mentioned, and some of them were NASTY.

I have played through normal beta with all 5 classes, doing complete map clears, and never came close to dying even once. Not one single time. Then last night I almost died to a unique mobs no less than 3 times. Finally, I entered a random dungeon entrance and stumbled upon a group of magical (blue) imp-dog things with a unique (gold) leader, and it was nuts. They had a crazy aura bonus, and burst me down to half almost instantly. When I tried to run away, they flanked me, surrounded me so I couldn't move, and 2-shotted me.

IT WAS AWESOME :D :D :D

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Nihilnovi
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden696 Posts
March 12 2012 22:41 GMT
#367
I can summarize hardcore in one sentence:

You feel alive before you die.

Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-12 22:48:25
March 12 2012 22:47 GMT
#368
@ Rybka

You sure Hardcore does up the difficulty? It shouldn't really, after all Hardcore is just about perma death.

I mean the monsters damage output got heavily increased anyways this patch and rare/champion spawns are randomized, so strong shit can happen.
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willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
March 12 2012 23:24 GMT
#369
On March 13 2012 07:47 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
@ Rybka

You sure Hardcore does up the difficulty? It shouldn't really, after all Hardcore is just about perma death.

I mean the monsters damage output got heavily increased anyways this patch and rare/champion spawns are randomized, so strong shit can happen.


It doesn't. The randomness of it all just picked harder monsters for him in HC mode. There certainly are more rare/champion packs then in patch 13 too!
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Rybka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States836 Posts
March 13 2012 02:18 GMT
#370
On March 13 2012 08:24 willoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 07:47 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
@ Rybka

You sure Hardcore does up the difficulty? It shouldn't really, after all Hardcore is just about perma death.

I mean the monsters damage output got heavily increased anyways this patch and rare/champion spawns are randomized, so strong shit can happen.


It doesn't. The randomness of it all just picked harder monsters for him in HC mode. There certainly are more rare/champion packs then in patch 13 too!


All I know is what I experienced. They upped the damage of all monsters in the new patch, substantially. And then I played HC. And then I got jumped by some crazy elite mobs and got wrecked.

This was after 5 run-throughs in patch 13 without even being remotely close to half health. Needless to say dying was much more fun.
"I like winter, you can put a beer outside of the window and come back later to have it nice and cold. But in Belgium, it'd better be the 3rd floor window." -Rowa
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
March 13 2012 03:19 GMT
#371
On March 13 2012 07:41 Nihilnovi wrote:
I can summarize hardcore in one sentence:

You feel alive before you die.


Very eloquently put, my good sir.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 13 2012 03:44 GMT
#372
Hardcare is a lot harder and a lot more damage output to me as well. Don't know if it was just randomness, but it would be very strange since I played through it at least 6 times in non - hardcore.
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TwoMagTrav
Profile Joined January 2011
United States195 Posts
March 13 2012 03:54 GMT
#373
Its all about the thrill man! Why ride the lazy river when you can go down the silver bullet!? Its for us adrenaline junkies!
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Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 04:23:17
March 13 2012 04:18 GMT
#374
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insearchof
Profile Joined July 2011
United States57 Posts
March 13 2012 07:33 GMT
#375
mainly for dueling if its like d2, but pve is pretty cool too on hardcore because it makes me feed off playing better or you fucking die gg
Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
March 13 2012 14:25 GMT
#376
I really like hardcore mode, it actually changes the game, since you can't just randomly run around killing stuff without thinking, you gotta be careful and intelligent about your play.
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GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
March 13 2012 16:24 GMT
#377
I think I will try it, but ill probably fail pretty hard right at the beginning or so :D
imPermanenCe
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 16:59:13
March 13 2012 16:56 GMT
#378
On March 13 2012 04:00 battyone wrote:
I play hardcore because I started this genre of games with Rogue and Hack (and later Nethack) and am used to the die on your quest and you're done situations. It also makes you think a lot harder about what you are doing, I died carelessly running around in beta on HC (ran into a pack that had some teleport blues and knockback blues...got surrounded, ragdolled, died.) It makes you a lot more careful and makes the game that much more fun to me. (And fusturating when you do lose a character)

*EDIT -- who is down on launch day to speed run normal so that we can roll hardcore characters? :D

You only need a lvl 10 character to start hardcore, not only in beta, but also for retail
Unless you want to speedrun normal anyway, haha.

On March 13 2012 12:44 Type|NarutO wrote:
Hardcare is a lot harder and a lot more damage output to me as well. Don't know if it was just randomness, but it would be very strange since I played through it at least 6 times in non - hardcore.

Did you do those runs in patch 14, or 13/lower. Because hardcore should be as hard as any other difficulty. But in patch 14 they added double monster damage to the game.
Micro at its best is like an elegant dance between two people trying to achieve a similar end.
battyone
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States180 Posts
March 13 2012 20:30 GMT
#379
On March 14 2012 01:56 imPermanenCe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 04:00 battyone wrote:
I play hardcore because I started this genre of games with Rogue and Hack (and later Nethack) and am used to the die on your quest and you're done situations. It also makes you think a lot harder about what you are doing, I died carelessly running around in beta on HC (ran into a pack that had some teleport blues and knockback blues...got surrounded, ragdolled, died.) It makes you a lot more careful and makes the game that much more fun to me. (And fusturating when you do lose a character)

*EDIT -- who is down on launch day to speed run normal so that we can roll hardcore characters? :D

You only need a lvl 10 character to start hardcore, not only in beta, but also for retail
Unless you want to speedrun normal anyway, haha.


For retail it's just going to be lvl 10? UI/tooltips still say finish the game on normal.
Let's Go Mets!
imPermanenCe
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands595 Posts
March 13 2012 22:38 GMT
#380
On March 14 2012 05:30 battyone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 01:56 imPermanenCe wrote:
On March 13 2012 04:00 battyone wrote:
I play hardcore because I started this genre of games with Rogue and Hack (and later Nethack) and am used to the die on your quest and you're done situations. It also makes you think a lot harder about what you are doing, I died carelessly running around in beta on HC (ran into a pack that had some teleport blues and knockback blues...got surrounded, ragdolled, died.) It makes you a lot more careful and makes the game that much more fun to me. (And fusturating when you do lose a character)

*EDIT -- who is down on launch day to speed run normal so that we can roll hardcore characters? :D

You only need a lvl 10 character to start hardcore, not only in beta, but also for retail
Unless you want to speedrun normal anyway, haha.


For retail it's just going to be lvl 10? UI/tooltips still say finish the game on normal.

What UI/tooltips?

In the beta you can play hardcore when you've read lvl 10 with a character.
And someone tweeted to Jay Wilson, he said that it would be the same for retail.
Micro at its best is like an elegant dance between two people trying to achieve a similar end.
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