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On March 27 2012 10:20 unkkz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2012 10:16 CaptainKirk wrote:
first playthrough... going to play hardcore... real man Yes that is very manly, but dont u have to complete the game in normal per the usual before you can go HC? Either way im gonna complete it in normal first, as not to get any surprises from the bosses even though i dont anticipate normal being all that difficult.
Ya. I'm pretty sure Blizz has confirmed that you MUST beat the game once in SC before you can create a HC char. There was a whole drama about it on the forums.
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LOL hardcore is fun and yes it give you a sense of achievement, but since we have not eliminate lag or chance of d/c in game going hardcore is not worth it (most of my hardcore char in D2 died due to lag or d/c).
You are more likely to get high blood pressure then adrenaline rush.
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I could tell you have not played hardcore. It is very different. The players are different, the pve players are more analytical and more risk adverse whereas the pvp/pk players are more dedicated than their counterparts in softcore. It is not a difficult setting, but rather a state of mind.
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Hardcore extended the life of D2 for me by several years. I'm sure it's not for everyone, but once I went HC, I never went back to SC. Gave away my SC items, even all the items off my 3 99's.
HC death at a high level IS brutal, and it does happen. I went almost 2 years without losing a char, and bam!, I lost my level 96 while running Pindleskin solo in an 8 player game... which I had done many hundreds of times before. Total shock at seeing the death screen. One great thing tho: the community. Got my items back, and moved on.
I'll probably spend a month or three getting a good feel for D3 in softcore, then switch over and never look back.
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and for the above poster: in D3 you can make a hardcore character as soon as you reach level 10 in softcore. And just like D2, you can delete the original softcore character and continue to make HC's. Which may become a factor in D3 with the set limit of 10 chars per account.
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On March 27 2012 13:52 protoss22 wrote:
I could tell you have not played hardcore. It is very different. The players are different, the pve players are more analytical and more risk adverse whereas the pvp/pk players are more dedicated than their counterparts in softcore. It is not a difficult setting, but rather a state of mind.
No PKing in D3!!!!!!!!! T-T
EDIT: Well unless you train a whole bunch of baddies on them 
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On March 27 2012 13:17 VL-Orion wrote:
LOL hardcore is fun and yes it give you a sense of achievement, but since we have not eliminate lag or chance of d/c in game going hardcore is not worth it (most of my hardcore char in D2 died due to lag or d/c).
You are more likely to get high blood pressure then adrenaline rush.
Haha everything said here is so true 
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Well, its like from a top of a mountain you have 2 options to go down the mountain. You can:
A: walk down the trail - hiking. (boring compared below)
B: Zipline? Glider? Para-jump? - dangerous but fun and risky - if it gives adrenaline rush.
I can think of other comparisons but its always just an option on how to go about the game. Like in life, lots of options on how to live it, in this game 2 choices on how to play it.
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On March 27 2012 14:14 GullyFoyle wrote:
and for the above poster: in D3 you can make a hardcore character as soon as you reach level 10 in softcore.
"This is the way it worked in Diablo II and we like it. We want players to give the game one play through to experience the story, the flow, the boss fights, and the baseline difficulty before risking a whole character on a single death. Players interested in Hardcore mode will have plenty of time for that. But we're happy with it being a setting you have to unlock first."
Zarhym Community Manager
Source: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/4062878642#10
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Just installed Diablo2 again and started up a HC amazon with multishot as main dmg.
My god I was crap until lvl 30 when I could get my valkyrie out. Almost every piece of equipment I had was crap.
Joined a good game with 4-5 others and we blasted through act 4 and 5. I then did Ball runs until I hit 50 and this is where I stand now, about to begin in nightmare.
This game is still tons of fun and I allready have 3 mules full of stuff.
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On March 27 2012 13:17 VL-Orion wrote:
LOL hardcore is fun and yes it give you a sense of achievement, but since we have not eliminate lag or chance of d/c in game going hardcore is not worth it (most of my hardcore char in D2 died due to lag or d/c).
You are more likely to get high blood pressure then adrenaline rush.
Oh man, Lag MAKES hardcore, there is no hardcore without lag and DC.
I played Hardcore back in the day where diablo 2 classic servers were very unstable and I had 250 constant ping. There were some random disconnections and man that was what made hardcore so awesome, everyday you could check ladder and see top ladder deaths. It was real survival, you had to have a very organised group with ultra tanky buildsbecause, a random disco can happen anytime, this is were the adrenaline were, knowing that at any moment a super safe CS can become an hecatomb. The highest level was level 91 and was full respected because he managed to do something very difficult.
Then they patched, made the extension, the game was easier ,the server wasn't laggy, everyone had less than 120 ping and everyone survived until lvl 99 in HC.
I hope there will be Bnet instability in HC.
With bnet 0.2, I'm pretty sure there will be
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Getting high adrenaline due to the constant risk of disconnects is not an appropriate reason for going HC in my book >.>
Wrong type of hazard yo -.-
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On March 27 2012 21:29 Sultan.P wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2012 14:14 GullyFoyle wrote:
and for the above poster: in D3 you can make a hardcore character as soon as you reach level 10 in softcore. "This is the way it worked in Diablo II and we like it. We want players to give the game one play through to experience the story, the flow, the boss fights, and the baseline difficulty before risking a whole character on a single death. Players interested in Hardcore mode will have plenty of time for that. But we're happy with it being a setting you have to unlock first." Zarhym Community Manager Source: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/4062878642#10
sry no.
http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/hardcore-change-is-permanent
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On March 28 2012 16:44 rEiGN~ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2012 21:29 Sultan.P wrote:On March 27 2012 14:14 GullyFoyle wrote:
and for the above poster: in D3 you can make a hardcore character as soon as you reach level 10 in softcore. "This is the way it worked in Diablo II and we like it. We want players to give the game one play through to experience the story, the flow, the boss fights, and the baseline difficulty before risking a whole character on a single death. Players interested in Hardcore mode will have plenty of time for that. But we're happy with it being a setting you have to unlock first." Zarhym Community Manager Source: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/4062878642#10 sry no. http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/hardcore-change-is-permanent
orly?
Excellent to hear!
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I remember towards the end of my D2 time, me and some friends rolled HC characters. Probably the most fun I had on the game in awhile. Ironically enough, dying was the best part about it for us - we'd be on Vent and someone would die, and everyone would just burst out laughing at them. They'd have to roll a new character and play catch-up, until someone else died, and the cycle would repeat itself. We never really got too far into HC, but it was fun nonetheless. Good times.
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