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Why go Hardcore? - Page 18
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1Lamb1Rice
United States435 Posts
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
You couldn't just rush in and dick around or you'd die. It was much harder to twink, resistence meant more, as did strategy. Every boss had to be approached a certain way or you would just die a horrible death. I actually felt a sense of accomplishment when I beat Hardcore with my Sorcy. Softcore never did shit for me. In the end it's just items in a computer game. You said lose everything for nothing when it really is lose nothing for nothing( I don't consider the exhiliartion that is Hardcore nothing). All it is is time. | ||
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djWHEAT
United States925 Posts
I didn't see the video online, I was watching a live broadcast of it on MBCGame while I was in Korea. It was a glorious thing. What wasn't mentioned is that when that someone lost his Hardcore character, there were tears. And it was one of the most compelling things I've ever seen on gaming television... | ||
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2plusthree
Russian Federation43 Posts
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NTTemplar
609 Posts
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Toque
Canada30 Posts
1) The Community - This is probably the most significant aspect of playing in HC. The willingness of other players to help each other out is much more significant here because everyone has the common goal of staying alive and learning how to do it. So most of your social interactions with other players are better than in SC. You don't have to deal with the trolls and asshats in SC (and yes I played a shitton of SC before moving to HC back in the day and the difference in communities is huge). Speaking of those people, they generally suck and guess what, you don't have to deal with them later in the game because they all die off. I've seen TONS of dumb kids take themselves out on my leveling runs. This sense of community only increases as you move on to the harder stuff as well, so once you hit the highest levels, most of the bad players are now gone. What you are left with is a community of intelligent players who mostly work together to achieve similar goals, I've never seen anything like it in any other game. 2) The Challenge - No I don't mean it's harder, the difficulty is the same in SC and HC, not sure why people keep saying that. The challenge is that the game forces you to make better decisions and build your character more intelligently. It challenges your ability to make good decisions and put serious thought into every aspect of your character. You learn how to select the right skills, the right gear, and the right strategies to deal with every situation. It actually reminds me of laddering in SC2, if you don't know what you're doing, you lose. It's the same in HC, if you don't know how to play, you die, and if you are smart enough to learn from your mistakes, you are better for it and you move on to your next character. Those 2 things are really the only reason I play. I've been playing HC for so long the thrill, exhilaration, nervousness, stress, etc are not really a factor anymore in regular play. Was it there when I started? Yeah definitely, but that's all a part of having zero confidence in what you are doing. Once you become an HC veteran, the only time you feel bad is when you lose a character, which becomes pretty rare after a while. At this point, the most fun part is having a core of uber characters and then you can start playing around and theorycrafting with new characters, which is a ton of fun. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On March 09 2012 01:05 2plusthree wrote: Hardcore is just for PvM. Softcore is where people duel. A duel where your death means nothing. Hardcore PvP was very prevalant and it was much more invigorating despite all those TPPKer's | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On March 09 2012 01:05 2plusthree wrote: Hardcore is just for PvM. Softcore is where people duel. Hardcore has always been better for dueling, softcore there is no risk, people just build 100% pure damage chars that kill or die in 1 hit. Hardcore people balance damage and survivability for dueling. | ||
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2plusthree
Russian Federation43 Posts
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Urbz
Netherlands456 Posts
 "Players are now able to leave the game if unexpectedly disconnected from Battle.net" | ||
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slappy
United States1271 Posts
that's why I play hardcore. Been playing HC exclusively on a d2 mod the last couple years (Hell Unleashed: http://forum.arimyth.com/viewforum.php?f=8) This mod was NOT made with the intention to have players play HC. There are lots of things that can 1shot kill you (Korlic), so you can't "run-and-gun" those guys. It's all about preparation, teamwork, and execution (and a good server). I have not lost any characters due to lag, you just have to not put yourself in a situation that would be unsafe in the first place. I have my safe characters, but I also have characters that are meant to die (all str barbs, literally with 5 vit), surprisingly, he's lvl 70 now ^_^. I wonder how long he'll live? I go balls deep with him and its exhilarating as fuck. Also, I don't play with random people. Just my couple homies. SC is full of dumb-shits if you play public games that can ruin quests, etc | ||
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scDeluX
Canada1341 Posts
Reason is mostly because you don't have the RMAH. Items trading was like 95% of d2 experience back then and sure RMAH will be part of it in d3. I don't really care about the not dying. Also most of my IRL/online friend will play sc and diablo is more of a "social" game I guess. | ||
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Lobotomist
United States1541 Posts
On February 04 2012 22:09 Urbz wrote: PKing is part of hardcore? Well, it was for you I guess, but it need not be. Find where blizzard said that PKing was supposed to be part of the challenge of hardcore and then subsequently said "noobs can't handle it, we're taking it out." They never did. Also, "more $$$ is all that matters these days" Yeah, and every day preceding this one. Material wealth: it's a thing that people want.Because that counts for games in general, bigger audience is more $$$, all that matters these days. That said, having played the beta alot myself it left me craving for more!. I'm sure the game will pan out well eventually, and will keep both the casual and hardcore diablo-fans occupied for a long, long time. That said, I'll probably play some Hardcore. I'm not particularly efficient or patient at grinding levels so losing a character is pretty crippling to me. | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
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hkf
Australia354 Posts
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Smurphy
United States374 Posts
On March 10 2012 07:56 Cheerio wrote: Why do people skydive? One of the reasons is that you take on a small risk of death incident and experience the adrenaline going over the roof... if you survive. That is very stupid in theory but really satisfying in practice. Life is about feeling it, not about what you end up with (since we all end up with nothing). What I find even better about Hardcore is that there is virtually no danger whatsoever yet I still get some of the adrenaline rush. I find it to be the perfect balance of real danger and adrenaline. I get lots of adrenaline for no real danger whatsoever  I might lose my video game character? Oh no! Will I be forced to make a new character and slay demons some more? Oh no! The terrible burdens I must bear! | ||
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scDeluX
Canada1341 Posts
On March 10 2012 08:08 hkf wrote: Hardcore = no RMAH, only reason. It's not like it's a competition. You don't like the "buying power" part? Don't use the RMAH. There will be 3rd party site who will sell the best hc gear so I don't think that part changes much from sc. The big difference is only really permanent death. | ||
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Marke
Sweden279 Posts
Playing HC in diablo is like playing ladder and softcore is playing Custom games. | ||
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cjin
181 Posts
On March 10 2012 01:28 Urbz wrote: Just bumped into this little gem @ patch14 notes. Should help alot HC wise... Don't forget "once you are in a boss fight you are locked in." | ||
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scDeluX
Canada1341 Posts
On March 13 2012 00:30 Marke wrote: Playing HC in diablo is like playing ladder and softcore is playing Custom games. The game is actually designed around softcore so the custom game would be hardcore. Also there is no ladder. In fact I don't even think there is a level ladder like in d2. | ||
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