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On December 11 2010 16:34 Tanatos wrote:
That is insane amount of games to broadcast.
For each code,
Early group stage has 8group x 6 games = 48 games
Second group stage has 4 groups x 6 games = 24 games
Then I guess it turns into tournament system
for Ro8 which means 4 x Bo5 = 20
for Ro4, 2 x Bo7 = 14
for final Bo7 = 7
So we have 113 possible games for each code, (I just assume amount of game for code A to be same, of course it is different)
And there is code S qualification match also, and ALL of these games need to be done in one month!
I wonder how Gomtv is going to broadcast both Code S and Code A, cause it seemed to be almost impossible.
GSLs 1-3 had over 180 possible games each. So this isn't that much, really.
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I like this system. Buuuuuuuutttt...
did they say anything about maps?
And where can I find info on:
"I did not include other 7 big competitions organized by Blizzard: Ladder tournament (Feb, May, Aug, Nov), World Championship (June, Oct) and Blizzard Cup (Dec)"
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sick system cant wait for gsl
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How many GSL's will there be in 2011. Is it still monthly?
Will Code A tournaments be broadcast with english commentary?
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So confused lol...was this a direct translation from a korean site? What's the link?
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WOOOT!!!! That pretty much guarantees HuK is in I think. Gives me a new reason to watch GSL.
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I don't think foreigners who now permanently live in Korea (like Grack and Loner) are counted towards the 4 foreign wild cards. When I first read it, I interpreted this as invitee-spots for players who haven't yet or normally wouldn't participate in the GSL (like Fenix or White-Ra). Presumptions, presumptions, presumptions. Anyway, this would further increase the heat around the question who would "deserve" it and what would be "fair", better not think about that.
On December 11 2010 15:39 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2010 15:34 koppik wrote:
Oh, I like the four code A spots reserved for "top" foreigners. I wonder how they'll decide which tournaments are "big enough", or something. MLG and IEM......I don't know what else though...
Surely, the tournaments with the biggest prize pot will be taken into consideration. MLG, IEM, Blizzcon, Dreamhack. Of these, only MLG will provide a constant stream of results, so I can see the MLG series claim (or even further solidify) their No.1 top tournaments spot outside of Korea.
If the other big prize tournaments with around or less than 5k€/$ (like Psi-Storm, BDL, ESL) will be counted in, then surely with less credit towards the players than the "big ones".
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This looks good. The foreigner invite thing is... strange. On one hand, it'd be nice to see some faces from elsewhere around the world, but if they aren't good enough to compete without the foreigner exception, then why have them there?
Code S/A stuff looks nice though.
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This is completely speculation with no evidence but...
According to this thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=170463
All the players with 350 points are going to be competing for the 12 remaining code A spots. Sen also has 350 points but is not included in that. Could either be because he doesn't plan on going and they already know that, or because they already designated one of the 4 foreigner spots for him maybe? Really curious to see how they assign those spots.
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What i get from this is that Code A players have to defeat 2 Code S players to acquire Code S whereas the Code S only has to lose once to get knocked back into COde A.
And Big Hi5 to GOM for securing 4 spots for Foreigners.
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Edit misunderstood this completely... I don't get it yet.
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this sounds pretty cool, especially at the inclusion of the 4 foreigners
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The foreigner exception thing is necessary since foreigners shouldn't have to buy a 2nd or 3rd copy of SC2 to compete. It would essentially be an entrance fee that Koreans wouldn't have to pay (not that GOMTV has a problem with that for viewers)
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On December 11 2010 15:31 Brewers wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2010 15:16 b_unnies wrote:
can someone clarify the Code A qualifications, dont really understand that part as well. honestly i prefer that foreigners play for the 4 foreigner spots rather than having it based on past tourney results. players in servers like LA/SEA etc will be disadvantaged - Top 8 in Code A + 17-32nd Code S players play for 16 spots of Code S. - 17-24th players in Code S (that is, 3rd in each group of Code S) vs Top 8 in Code A takes place first. - The losers plays against 25-32nd players in Code S (that is, 4th in each group of Code S). - Whoever loses, falls into Code A. - Variation: Top 2 in Code A can choose who they want to play against. - Code A: Top 8 will advance to Code S determination matches. Top 9-16 stays in Code A Top 17-32 gets eliminated and has to go through the offline preliminary. 12 spots of Code A are reserved to the offline Preliminary 4 spots of Code A are guaranteed to top foreigners
Thanks, got it now
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I'm sad that some people here aren't seeing how awesome this system is. This is the coolest setup for any sport ever. You get to see the best stick around at the top of Code S so they get to develop storylines and such, you have the drama of relegation to Code A, you have round robin and single elimination, you have offline qualifiers, it's like everything possible. Anyone who says "too complicated, do it like GSL 1,2,3" is just being lazy.
The foreigner thing is awesome too. It's not like they didn't earn the spots if they do the invites well, and it's only code A anyway. It's awesome because lets say someone like QXC or Painuser gets hot next year and wins IEM, MLG and Dreamhack. Do you think they'll find sponsors to send him to Korea to go through qualifiers, with no guarantee they'll even get on TV? That's a huge risk, and no team besides Liquid and maybe EG and Fnatic can do that anyway.
The reserved spots are like in golf or tennis tournaments. In golf, you can get to the US open by being the US Amateur champion or a top finisher in the Masters, among other ways (I might be a little incorrect here, but you get the gist). You can also qualify for the US open, and anyone with a super low handicap is allowed to do qualifications. If someone has shown in other tournaments that they are really good though, then why make them go through qualifiers? Very, very cool of them to do that for foreigners if you ask me.
What's also cool is GOM would probably not have done this if it wasn't for players like Jinro, Idra, Loner and Sen proving to the Koreans that the rest of the world can hang with them consistently.
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A flowchart based on my understanding of the OP (could be wildly wrong):
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Dp2vFl.png)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xXcH0.jpg)
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Haha got to laugh at the guys saying foreigners who get reserved a spot haven't "earned it". Qualifying for code A is certainly easier than winning something like MLG, it's just that it's way too risky to fly to korea just participate in qualifiers for mere code A. Indeed, I still expect some foreigners to turn down the invitation. Moreover, since they only get code A and to actually compete for meaningful price money you've to be code S, they'll have to "prove" themselves regardless.
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Where the heck does gsl get all the money to do so many awesome things ?!
anyway that's quite cool really !
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On December 11 2010 17:15 ThunderGod wrote:
did they say anything about maps?
It doesn't look like it, but this is going to be one of the most important issues.
The round robin stages will probably be bo1s, so map choice is gonna play a huge part...
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EPT
