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GOMTV announces the system of GSL in 2011 - Page 5

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Solaris.playgu
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden480 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 10:05:09
December 11 2010 10:04 GMT
#81
This is pretty nifty, a smart system. Thanks for the info =)
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
December 11 2010 10:08 GMT
#82
I'm a little disappointed now that it's happening. I really liked the big open tournaments.

I don't want to watch the same tournament month after month. And I liked knowing that every player in the ro64 had earned his spot by winning, not by invites.

Things like morrow winning the IEM tournament that he wasn't even originally invited to make me wary of all these codes and special qualifiers.

I guess we'll have lots of fan favorites at the very least. I'm also really hoping they change up the maps.

I'll be watching in any case, can't wait to see it when it actually airs =)
iGX
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia414 Posts
December 11 2010 10:18 GMT
#83
confusing as it is, props for the info.

gomtv has not set an estimated date for this event?
When your bases are ashes...then you have my permission to "GG".
robertdinh
Profile Joined June 2010
803 Posts
December 11 2010 10:26 GMT
#84
Can't say I really agree with giving foreigners spots in code-a based on US and EU tourneys.

I think they are doing this because some foreigners failed to qualify for even code A, despite moving to korea recently.

Why not have everyone earn their spots legitimately under the same rules as everyone else?
True skill comes without effort.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 10:37:13
December 11 2010 10:34 GMT
#85
Code A is qualifiers for code S. These moronic claims they don't deserve code A by, for instance, winning the biggest foreigner tournament are rage inducing. Koreans are free to fly to MLG and win and they'll get invited too. Gomtv recognizes, unlike apparently certain TL "experts", that the other tournaments also have high level players and encouraging them to participate in GSL is a good thing.
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3456 Posts
December 11 2010 10:35 GMT
#86
Reserved slots seem nice.
They can inject foreigners.
Who'll hold S longest?
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shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
December 11 2010 10:37 GMT
#87
This is great.

This means it's difficult to get demoted from Code S but still not too hard to become Code S for newcomers.

Can't wait when they announce some sort of PL for sc2 :D
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
VonLego
Profile Joined June 2010
United States519 Posts
December 11 2010 10:44 GMT
#88
On December 11 2010 15:12 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
lol finally I benefit from affirmative action


Thats exactly what I was thinking. Not sure how well that will be received in Korea, but apparently it isn't a big deal. I'm glad we'll be able to see our foreign heroes over there more often!
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 10:45:37
December 11 2010 10:44 GMT
#89
The hilarious thing is that this happens all the time in foreigner tournaments as well and no one whines about that. Blizzard better not invite GSL winners to blizzcon but rather force them to go through qualifiers as well.
Cep
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany41 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 11:18:19
December 11 2010 11:05 GMT
#90
Even though it's nice for the foreign scene to have 4 guaranteed spots in Code A, i think as a competitive league you should have the best competitors in there. Much too political for my taste.

But on the other hand it seems like they're holding on to this ridiculous BO1, ending up in a mess anyway. The maps aren't balanced and you will see way too much cheesy all-ins. Leaving the allaround better player losing. No doubt it's a viable option but, well at least imo, you'll get much more enjoyment out of good solid macro games.
I would really love to see Blizzard announcing a mapping competition or just using some of the ICCup maps.
Banginglife
Profile Joined November 2010
United States92 Posts
December 11 2010 11:08 GMT
#91
I'm a bit confused on one part. Does this mean that the already code s players are the only ones competing for that current tournament? And everything else is just to qualify to compete for next months main stage?
Charmander
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
December 11 2010 11:24 GMT
#92
Would the "top 4 foreigners invite" include or exclude those that are code S ?

By that I mean, right now we have:
- Idra
- Jinro

That are Code S

And Loner and TLO that are code A (from how I understand it).

Would that be the 4 foreigner spots, or are they saying that it will be Idra, Jinro, + 4 more?
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
December 11 2010 11:27 GMT
#93
On December 11 2010 19:26 robertdinh wrote:
Can't say I really agree with giving foreigners spots in code-a based on US and EU tourneys.

I think they are doing this because some foreigners failed to qualify for even code A, despite moving to korea recently.

Why not have everyone earn their spots legitimately under the same rules as everyone else?


The system with offline qualifiers hugely benefits Koreans already. I can't see what's wrong with even it out a wee bit by reserving 4 spots to notable foreigners, after all it's just Class A we're talking about.

If it turns out foreigners are so far behind that it hurts the quality of GSL I'm sure they will rethink the decission but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
mistgun_EU
Profile Joined October 2010
309 Posts
December 11 2010 11:27 GMT
#94
On December 11 2010 14:46 Brewers wrote:.

Good News: 4 spots of Code A are guaranteed for top foreign players who has won recent big tourneys or shown considerable performances in non-Korean competitions.


hope we see Sjow and Naama in there.. cant think of other two
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50600 Posts
December 11 2010 11:32 GMT
#95
On December 11 2010 20:27 mistgun_EU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2010 14:46 Brewers wrote:.

Good News: 4 spots of Code A are guaranteed for top foreign players who has won recent big tourneys or shown considerable performances in non-Korean competitions.


hope we see Sjow and Naama in there.. cant think of other two


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Cep
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany41 Posts
December 11 2010 11:33 GMT
#96
On December 11 2010 20:24 aebriol wrote:
Would the "top 4 foreigners invite" include or exclude those that are code S ?

By that I mean, right now we have:
- Idra
- Jinro

That are Code S

And Loner and TLO that are code A (from how I understand it).

Would that be the 4 foreigner spots, or are they saying that it will be Idra, Jinro, + 4 more?


4 guarenteed foreign players in Code A + whoever foreigner will make it to Code S.

TLO won't participate in the near future so he was dropped out of Code A.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-11 11:38:15
December 11 2010 11:36 GMT
#97
The foreigner designated spots are there to ensure that Code A tournament has higher quality of players, not only to keep the foreign community happy and interested. The way things are right now, top 4 non-Koreans are easily good enough for Code A and probably better than the average Korean Code A player. There's nothing wrong in giving the foreigners a fair chance to retain that status rather than forcing them to move to Korea and then having them go through a ridiculous qualifier gauntlet that knocks out Tester regularly.

I for one am happy that they didn't take on the "if you want to compete compete, we don't give a fuck" attitude of the BW establishment. It makes no sense to ignore the fact that it's a Korean tournament in Korea. This rule is only there to even things out and prevent the skill gap from snowballing just because the center of the Starcraft scene happens to be on the other side of the globe.
Gingerninja
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1339 Posts
December 11 2010 11:42 GMT
#98
Damn, I was hoping for a League system not a round robin + knockout stages. Oh well... hopefully they'll make a team Pro-league soon. Not sure what i think about gifting 4 slots, although they could just reword that and say the slots are for winners of tournament x/y/z or whatever.. might even convince some korean players to go to foreign tournaments.
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aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
December 11 2010 11:47 GMT
#99
On December 11 2010 20:33 Cep wrote:
4 guarenteed foreign players in Code A + whoever foreigner will make it to Code S.

TLO won't participate in the near future so he was dropped out of Code A.

Thank you.

I misunderstood it somehow and confused myself Thanks for clearing it up for me.
Cep
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany41 Posts
December 11 2010 11:48 GMT
#100
On December 11 2010 20:36 Talin wrote:
The foreigner designated spots are there to ensure that Code A tournament has higher quality of players, not only to keep the foreign community happy and interested. The way things are right now, top 4 non-Koreans are easily good enough for Code A and probably better than the average Korean Code A player. There's nothing wrong in giving the foreigners a fair chance to retain that status rather than forcing them to move to Korea and then having them go through a ridiculous qualifier gauntlet that knocks out Tester regularly.


So where's the point in having 4 guarenteed spots if they're better players anyway?

Foreign teams take a risk moving their players to korea. Not only financially. As i already said, imo, maps aren't that balanced and invite for cheesy all-ins. So everyone could end up like Tester/Nada/...

But having 4 guarenteed spots, sounds quite political to me.
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