Blizzard sues OGN - Page 5

On November 04 2010 22:39 Katsuge wrote:
i hate it cos all blizz is talking is about their rights their rights...;/

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On November 04 2010 23:54 McDonalds wrote:

Can you even watch the GSL on TV at this point? I was under the impression that the GSL stream numbers included the Korean viewership.

On November 04 2010 23:38 HeaDStrong wrote:



well in your post you jump to the conclusion that blizzard has the rights in the first place, in that case you are correct.

but what most of us are arguing about whether they actually do have those rights. Creating a computer game does not automatically create a huge scene with loads of sponsored teams, televised matches and high level play.

this is where the fight is right now. they haven't won the case so far and claimed the rights to be theirs. so your described situation becomes more like them suing a competitor because it hurts their revenue.

"- stop saying "illegal, illegal", if they fans want it, they have all the rights to broadcast!"

On November 05 2010 00:02 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Anyway, I don't see how the Korean Air OSL can even be shut down. I remember that MONTHS ago OGN agreed to terms with OGN and only MBC couldn't come to an agreement. I suppose this is over OGN broadcasting Proleague without purchasing the rights, but how can they shut down the OSL because of that when they actually have the rights to it?

On November 05 2010 00:06 oneofthem wrote:

you seem to be implying that an organization like kespa has legitimacy because it exists apart from the effort blizzard put into bw. this is not the case legally speaking.

still, i was not talking about legitimacy at all, just the economic and business logic at work. the legal rights are a tool to be wielded for business ends. blizzard's legal situation did not change from 2000 to today, what has changed is that they have a stake in progaming now that they've devised a way to extract revenue from it.

now, kespa is not exactly your community cooperative sc league. they are quite aggressive in using the power of licensing as well, to the extent of coercing players. i don't have a horse in this race as far as the companies are concerned, i'm just not sure how the players and fans would be treated in the process.

On November 05 2010 00:21 leakingpear wrote:
Why is it every single one of these threads consists of the same uninformed knee jerk reactionary titwank, then 20 pages of people trying to explain that neither sides actions can be equated to the pre-school esque logic that said knee jerk titwank attempts to correlate it to, while being rebuked by said reactionary titwankees?

I mean how were you all not expecting this one, they said they would if OGN continued unabated, it's clearly going to come under the same IP rights situation, in actuality it would be far more absurd if they didn't do this (provided there wasn't a change by OGN to fit to the previous negotiation's stipulations) as it would mean that Blizzard was unfairly targeting one corporation and would sink their entire protection of IP rights case due to the selectivism of it. Oh and i'm really not going to reply to anyone over this stuff as it just gives me headaches trying to deal with the starcraft equivalent of creationists and yes I realise how remarkably arrogant and superior that sounds.

On November 05 2010 00:23 snowdrift wrote:


Well don't let the door hit you on your way out of the thread.

On November 05 2010 00:18 C.W. wrote:
And Blizzard sure does the right thing - it's their damn property.
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This is ridiculous.

On November 05 2010 00:20 HeaDStrong wrote:


All I was saying is that I am not fully convinced that by creating a video game you automatically own everything that is created by it. I don't think blizzard gets much credit for all the fangirls going crazy and shouting when Flash used a d-matrixed dropship as an elevator to load Jaedongs base full with MnM and take out his tech. Or do you think all the fans turned up to that even because how awesomely Blizzard had designed all those sprites. You see what I mean? What OGN/MBC/KeSPA are selling is not quite what Blizzard had produced.

Sure Blizzard deserves a part of the cake, but from what I recall their requests in the negotiations wasn't a piece of the cake, it was the whole cake and also the knife and all the plates to serve it. In my view this is unreasonable from them and they are waaay in the wrong here.

I agree that KeSPA is a nasty organization, but KeSPA is a representative organization of all the pro teams involved. If KeSPA loses, the core of esports is gone and I am sure as hell Blizzard will not replace it. What happens from then is rather unpredictable but certainly not for good.