EPTOn November 04 2010 22:10 BloodDrunK wrote:
looks like i found another reason to hate SC2.
looks like i found another reason to hate SC2.
don't hate on sc2, hate on the activision tops
Blizzard sues OGN - Page 3
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konadora
Singapore66153 Posts
don't hate on sc2, hate on the activision tops | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
When I've had a bad day at office, and I watch the games when I arrive at home, I already feel better. Thank you thank you the players, Kespa, thank you OGN and MBC, thank you the sponsors. I know some of you are gonna say I should thank Blizzard for having made the game. And that's exactly the point. Blizzard's job was to make the game, and they've been well rewarded by selling 5 millions copies in South Korea only. And more than that, BW's legacy is what convinced all the sponsors that SC2 had a lot of potential as an esport. Would an american company like Intel had offered 180 000 dollars for a video game tournament, moreover abroad, if there hadn't been a very developed professional scene there beforehand ? Hell no. Blizzard should thank everyone the way I did too. Not suing them. GL MBC / OGN ! | ||
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Taguchi
Greece1575 Posts
a reasonable judge would probably force OGN et al to pay some fair amount (not so hard to quantify this, could base it on revenues or w/e) to blizzard for rights to broadcast etc and also force blizzard to accept said amount sc has become a small business industry so hopefully legislation doesnt allow some previously uninvolved copyright holder to just come in and shut everything down whenever they feel like it, which is what they're doing if they ask for absurd amounts this wasnt the reason copyright was invented for, it's just abuse of it | ||
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MacroNcheesE
United States508 Posts
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bubblegumbo
Taiwan1296 Posts
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ichimarugin680
United States182 Posts
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TimeOut
Germany1277 Posts
On November 04 2010 22:18 lutarez wrote: If Gretech has the broadcast rights to BW, why haven't they rebooted their BW starleague? I mean, if BW is still profitable compared to SC2, they would've started one or have made plans to start one since the IP debacle. I think Blizzard and Gretech wants BW to die for good in favor of SC2. How should they run a BW league? Nobody would be allowed to play in it, unless it is KeSPA sanctioned, and KeSPA would never agree to that. So they made the next best thing and tried to allow the original leagues to run and to be broadcasted trough the usual channels. Sadly the negotiations about the terms and rights failed and they have to solve the differences through legal action. I said it in the last topic, I will say it again. We don't know what happened during the negotiations and we don't know the whole truth and the intentions of all involved parties. All we get are second-hand information and PR statements from both sides (which might be correct, or might be deliberately misleading - another thing we can't know for sure). It doesn't help to be aggressive against Blizzard, KeSPA or anyone else. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10301 Posts
On November 04 2010 22:21 konadora wrote: don't hate on sc2, hate on the activision tops words of wisdom(no sacarsm) just leave BW alone already -,- | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
As pointed out: isn't the existing BW scene the only reason there is even such major interest and possibly money in SC2 Korean eSports in the first place, so why such aggressive action towards everyone involved in the creation and running of that scene. I'm pretty sure OGN/MBC and KeSPA would have all been happy to be involved themselves in a working relationship for SC2 in a direct continuation of the successful model now, i can't imagine they are the ones causing the problems. Clearly Blizzard wants just more control and more of a cut (despite there apparently hardly being a profit) hence the inclusion of Gretech, and handing the rights solely over to them. It would made no sense for KeSPA to be the deliberately awkward party considering they would stand to benefit just as much from a new game. | ||
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
User was temp banned for this and other posts. | ||
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Borknagarush
176 Posts
On November 04 2010 22:35 TimeOut wrote: How should they run a BW league? Nobody would be allowed to play in it, unless it is KeSPA sanctioned, and KeSPA would never agree to that. So they made the next best thing and tried to allow the original leagues to run and to be broadcasted trough the usual channels. Sadly the negotiations about the terms and rights failed and they have to solve the differences through legal action. I said it in the last topic, I will say it again. We don't know what happened during the negotiations and we don't know the whole truth and the intentions of all involved parties. All we get are second-hand information and PR statements from both sides (which might be correct, or might be deliberately misleading - another thing we can't know for sure). It doesn't help to be aggressive against Blizzard, KeSPA or anyone else. And how did they managed to get Boxer, July, Nada, ......MVP, Sangho, Iron and so on? Put some good cash in league and players will come. | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On November 04 2010 22:33 ichimarugin680 wrote: Copyright is meant for this. The negotiation failed next stop court. Its a legal move even tho I love brood war, can't help but think blizzard has all the rights to do this against illegal tourneys I gotta agree with this. But it still sucks ass. But if i remember right, Blizzard threatened to shut down the whole game if they won't follow the 'rules'. So it really doesn't matter if they are in Korean court and if Blizzard loses this because of it. So, did i understand the shutting down right? Can they actually shut down the game/scene somehow even if they lose? | ||
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
We love your game. Let us watch it. SC2 is already killing the scene a bit, so you don't need to be afraid BW will compete for viewers. If that's not your reason for doing this, it comes off as just spiteful. What the fuck. Love, Thopol EDIT: And seriously? People are making Blizzard out to be the victim here? I mean, technically yeah, but it's a huge corporation bludgeoning folks for a (i think) pretty insignificant sum. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
Yeah, damn Blizzard and their legal rights to allow and disallow the use of their property![/QUOT,E] Maybe if they had cared back in 2000 you would have a point. They only care now because it takes away from their current cash cow. | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
On November 04 2010 22:31 AdamFox wrote: Yeah, damn Blizzard and their legal rights to allow and disallow the use of their property! Basically this. Seriously people? we all love BW and have played it for years but for the love of god, any other company on this planet would have done the same thing only sooner, most of you are just being extremely biased. | ||
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
A wild OGN has appeared! You choose Blizzard! Blizzard use "Sue" on OGN! then the gameboy proceeds to electrocute the player holding the gameboy..... | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4121 Posts
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Shana
Indonesia1814 Posts
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On November 04 2010 22:31 AdamFox wrote: Yeah, damn Blizzard and their legal rights to allow and disallow the use of their property! Stupid old me thinking that once I've purchased and paid for something, that it becomes my propety. Note: neither of our statements have anything to do with the real isssue ie: IP rights and how far they entend in relation to whether or not blizzard owns players creations and the rights to broadcast. I just had to reply if only for the fact that you caused my brain to implode from the massive amount of stupid shooting out of my screen coming from your statement. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5588 Posts
On November 04 2010 21:47 Kishkumen wrote: How is that quote disgusting? It seems more like OGN was being unnecessarily dismissive by only giving them the schedule of the OSL in response. That sort of passive aggressive response isn't really going to be productive. But maybe I'm missing something here. The Boxer-Nada viewcount begs to differ. Lol, like a sc2 player could ever get that kind of fan base? They're only known and loved for what they did in bw. I hope sc2 flops so that blizzard will stop harassing the bw scene. | ||
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