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mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
November 04 2010 12:40 GMT
#21
Blizzard very fast are closing all the doors towards SC2 becoming a major esport in Korea.
Kishkumen
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States650 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-04 12:48:57
November 04 2010 12:47 GMT
#22
On November 04 2010 21:14 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
Paul Sams, Chief Operating Officer of Blizzard, said 'We asked OGN to either acquire the legal right to broadcast or stop the process of the league, but all we got in return was the already planned schedule of new OSL. This only meant that they'd go forward without our consent.' He also said 'We strongly believe that OSL and GSL can co-exist, and we wish the best with the OGN programs. However, it is more important that we protect our rights, and it's a shame that we have to sort this out in such a way.'


Blizzard disgusts me

How is that quote disgusting? It seems more like OGN was being unnecessarily dismissive by only giving them the schedule of the OSL in response. That sort of passive aggressive response isn't really going to be productive. But maybe I'm missing something here.

On November 04 2010 21:40 mdb wrote:
Blizzard very fast are closing all the doors towards SC2 becoming a major esport in Korea.

The Boxer-Nada viewcount begs to differ.
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Lightswarm
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada966 Posts
November 04 2010 12:49 GMT
#23
On November 04 2010 21:31 vOdToasT wrote:
Show nested quote +
14 konadora wrote:
Paul Sams, Chief Operating Officer of Blizzard, said 'We asked OGN to either acquire the legal right to broadcast or stop the process of the league, but all we got in return was the already planned schedule of new OSL. This only meant that they'd go forward without our consent.' He also said 'We strongly believe that OSL and GSL can co-exist, and we wish the best with the OGN programs. However, it is more important that we protect our rights, and it's a shame that we have to sort this out in such a way.'


Blizzard disgusts me


My thoughts exactly.


since the merge, im pretty sure the board can assign ppl from one company to jump over to help the other company, which makes alot of sense to me. it would not surprise me that paul sams was transferred from activision to blizzard in order to deal with korea
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 04 2010 12:49 GMT
#24
Sigh... this makes me so sad.
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McDonalds
Profile Joined March 2010
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
November 04 2010 12:49 GMT
#25
The GSL is already succeeding. It's not like people are going to stop watching it if Blizzard is mean.

I actually find it funny that so many people on this forum have been saying stuff like "but Blizzard used to be so kewl, it's all because of SC2 and Activision". I don't remember all the reasons but for me Blizzard has been a shit company since the turn of the millennium. So I don't really care what they have to say about anything and I hope that the lawsuit backfires on them big time. The use of the game assets on TV is so incidental and it has been such a long time that they should really just stop it.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50323 Posts
November 04 2010 12:51 GMT
#26
On November 04 2010 21:14 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
Paul Sams, Chief Operating Officer of Blizzard, said 'We asked OGN to either acquire the legal right to broadcast or stop the process of the league, but all we got in return was the already planned schedule of new OSL. This only meant that they'd go forward without our consent.' He also said 'We strongly believe that OSL and GSL can co-exist, and we wish the best with the OGN programs. However, it is more important that we protect our rights, and it's a shame that we have to sort this out in such a way.'


Blizzard disgusts me


well yeah....they officially do the same to me now.....
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CanucksJC
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1241 Posts
November 04 2010 12:51 GMT
#27
Also guys, about the reply with the planned schedule of new leagues,
it seems to be schedules of both OSL and MSL sent by none other than KeSPA lol.
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Lightswarm
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada966 Posts
November 04 2010 12:54 GMT
#28
unless sc2 start getting a proleague-style league, i cannot forsee sc2 succeeding very long. proleague most likely generate more revenue since more players are playing more frequently, and sponsors would be attracted to more air-time for their players. by suing ogn/mbc, the korean government cannot be happy since if blizzard wins, the government would lose a hell lot of revenue.
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Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-04 16:03:02
November 04 2010 12:56 GMT
#29
Nice to see the true face of Actvision/blizzard and their plans for keeping the SC:BW alive and well. Leave BW alone
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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
November 04 2010 12:58 GMT
#30
sigh, blizzard suing mbc, then blizzard suing ogn, what next? kespa sues itself?
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HeaDStrong
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Scotland785 Posts
November 04 2010 12:59 GMT
#31
I don't believe that that KeSPA actually sent the schedule (like really (e)mail a list of the dates to Blizzard), it's just a way of saying that KeSPA made the schedule without setting things straight with blizz first.

I might of course be wrong, but sounds way too childish to first ignore someone and then shove in their face how much they ignored them in the first place.

I am on the edge of my seat and about to get up and walk away if blizz wins this, as pro bw has my only interest so far and i don't see blizz continuing the leagues if they take the rights away from OGN, MBC and KeSPA.
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
November 04 2010 13:00 GMT
#32
what the..i thought OGN managed to escape this lawsuit thing. So apparently Blizzard just wants total dominion over the eSports culture in korea and can't wait for everyone to switch over to SC2 cause of the better prices.
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mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
November 04 2010 13:01 GMT
#33
On November 04 2010 22:00 Invictus wrote:
what the..i thought OGN managed to escape this lawsuit thing. So apparently Blizzard just wants total dominion over the eSports culture in korea and can't wait for everyone to switch over to SC2 cause of the better prices.

I hope KeSPA finds some way to increase the prize pool. Would make it a bit more lucrative to stay.
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
November 04 2010 13:03 GMT
#34
Blizzard/Gretech make unreasonable demands/stall negotiations

OGN forced to start leagues or pro BW dies

Blizzard sues

FUCK
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blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-04 13:08:16
November 04 2010 13:04 GMT
#35
Wth man. At least OGN contracted with Gretech, so why sue them now? They are at least respecting the IP rights now that they've been asked to. Of course Blizzard would do this....=\
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CanucksJC
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1241 Posts
November 04 2010 13:05 GMT
#36
On November 04 2010 21:59 HeaDStrong wrote:
I don't believe that that KeSPA actually sent the schedule (like really (e)mail a list of the dates to Blizzard), it's just a way of saying that KeSPA made the schedule without setting things straight with blizz first.

I might of course be wrong, but sounds way too childish to first ignore someone and then shove in their face how much they ignored them in the first place.

I am on the edge of my seat and about to get up and walk away if blizz wins this, as pro bw has my only interest so far and i don't see blizz continuing the leagues if they take the rights away from OGN, MBC and KeSPA.


I just looked over it and it clearly says they got a notice with all the schedules from KeSPA.
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BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
November 04 2010 13:10 GMT
#37
looks like i found another reason to hate SC2.
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gyth
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
657 Posts
November 04 2010 13:12 GMT
#38
OGN going from a rights buyer to a pirate seems so outrageous, I feel compelled to speculate on whats going on behind the scenes.

They think they'll win any legal action.
a. Why buy the cow when you get the milk for free?

They don't know if they'll win.
a. Just trying to represent a unified front with Kespa/MBC.
b. Gretech's terms are unreasonable, and they really couldn't afford to be legal.

They think they'll lose.
a. Just leveraging a tax write-off from an industry in decline.

Something crazy.
a. Samsung buys BW from Vivendi.
b. Korea nationalizes the game.
The plural of anecdote is not data.
lutarez
Profile Joined November 2010
United States65 Posts
November 04 2010 13:18 GMT
#39
If Gretech has the broadcast rights to BW, why haven't they rebooted their BW starleague? I mean, if BW is still profitable compared to SC2, they would've started one or have made plans to start one since the IP debacle. I think Blizzard and Gretech wants BW to die for good in favor of SC2.
SiegeMode
Profile Joined August 2010
United States206 Posts
November 04 2010 13:21 GMT
#40
On November 04 2010 22:18 lutarez wrote:
If Gretech has the broadcast rights to BW, why haven't they rebooted their BW starleague? I mean, if BW is still profitable compared to SC2, they would've started one or have made plans to start one since the IP debacle. I think Blizzard and Gretech wants BW to die for good in favor of SC2.


My understanding was they haven't run a BW league because the proteams won't participate (because of the nastiness between blizzard/gretech and ogn/mbc/kespa)
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