EPTOn November 04 2010 21:29 We Are Here wrote:
omfg just leave bw alone, sc2 will do fine even if you dont kill bw off -.-''
omfg just leave bw alone, sc2 will do fine even if you dont kill bw off -.-''
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
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McDonalds
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
On November 04 2010 23:09 Elroi wrote: Lol, like a sc2 player could ever get that kind of fan base? They're only known and loved for what they did in bw. You know, I might be wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure SC2 just came out and there hasn't been much time for people to become known for what they've done with it. The point is that people are watching. They're going to see what happens and remember it. On November 04 2010 23:07 ShadeR wrote: Stupid old me thinking that once I've purchased and paid for something, that it becomes my propety. Yeah, but you're really only buying a license to use the software, not the software itself.  | ||
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Ryo
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HeaDStrong
Scotland785 Posts
have your opinion but dont take it to a personal level and turning this into a bw vs sc2 debate. and remember that there always will be a possibility in the future for a similar debate but with sc2 vs sc3. now really think what side you want to pick.... | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5600 Posts
On November 04 2010 23:17 McDonalds wrote: You know, I might be wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure SC2 just came out and there hasn't been much time for people to become known for what they've done with it. The point is that people are watching. They're going to see what happens and remember it. Yeah, but you're really only buying a license to use the software, not the software itself. Do you thinkl they'll have time though? Won't blizzard just kill SC2 in time for Diablo3 or WC4?? | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50865 Posts
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Masheyoon
United States781 Posts
On November 04 2010 22:42 Jayme wrote: Maybe if they had cared back in 2000 you would have a point. They only care now because it takes away from their current cash cow. This. I'm going to beat a dead horse, but I'm surprised at how many still don't see it. Why, dear Blizzard Entertainment, would you not have brought up this matter when the illegal broadcasting of your product first started? Oh, right, not only is it an annoying hassle, but at the time it was only positive advertising for your product, resulting in millions of copies being sold to the Koreans. But, you know, nowadays it could drain a tiny portion of SCII's attention. Never mind the 10 years this game spent doing what no other video game has ever done. Never mind esports. Let's just do our best to focus our attention at our shiny new product. Actard's greed is pathetic, and I'd think twice before defending them. Who knows, in another 10 years we might ourselves in a similar situation with SCIII. EDIT: On November 04 2010 23:20 HeaDStrong wrote: and remember that there always will be a possibility in the future for a similar debate but with sc2 vs sc3. now really think what side you want to pick.... Beat me to it! =O | ||
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McDonalds
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
On November 04 2010 23:20 Elroi wrote: Do you thinkl they'll have time though? Won't blizzard just kill SC2 in time for Diablo3 or WC4?? Well I don't think the chances of Korea giving a shit about either of those games is very high, to be honest. And at this rate there won't be an SC3 until 2024. I doubt that there is ever going to be another success story like SC but there are plenty of other games getting viewers right now. You're right though, the fact that Blizzard wants to control the entire process is a problem. When they stop caring, nobody else is allowed to care. | ||
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DragonDefonce
United States790 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
whether the intent is to kill sc1 or not depends on how much money they are asking. if it is high enough to be uncollectible, then obviously they are trying to kill sc1. if it is a sum that still allows ogn etc to do business, then it's something else. on the likely scenario that the existing kespa structure collapses, the immediate losers will be the progamers and fans. however, if sc2 manages to become a successful progaming industry in korea, some kind of league structure will have to replace kespa as sc1 progamers migrate to sc2 and the team sponsors migrate as well. how exactly this league structure will shake out remains to be seen. | ||
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ionlyplayPROtoss
Canada573 Posts
It seems like with all the money being thrown around its not more than a million dollars a year and for a multibillion dollar corporation like blizzard that really shouldn't be significant. | ||
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mia-X17
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On November 04 2010 21:47 Kishkumen wrote: How is that quote disgusting? It seems more like OGN was being unnecessarily dismissive by only giving them the schedule of the OSL in response. That sort of passive aggressive response isn't really going to be productive. But maybe I'm missing something here. The Boxer-Nada viewcount begs to differ. sc2 player here folks User was banned for this and other posts. | ||
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HeaDStrong
Scotland785 Posts
On November 04 2010 23:29 oneofthem wrote: people need to understand that by "protecting" their rights, it means "extract greatest revenue from" their rights. which may or may not involve killing sc1 and the way kespa does business, which is obviously a no go in a sc2 progaming scene that blizzard has a stake in. kespa sanctions tournaments by controlling the progamers. how can blizzard tolerate some other entity controlling the way their progaming scene is run? whether the intent is to kill sc1 or not depends on how much money they are asking. if it is high enough to be uncollectible, then obviously they are trying to kill sc1. if it is a sum that still allows ogn etc to do business, then it's something else. well in your post you jump to the conclusion that blizzard has the rights in the first place, in that case you are correct. but what most of us are arguing about whether they actually do have those rights. Creating a computer game does not automatically create a huge scene with loads of sponsored teams, televised matches and high level play. this is where the fight is right now. they haven't won the case so far and claimed the rights to be theirs. so your described situation becomes more like them suing a competitor because it hurts their revenue. | ||
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Funnytoss
Taiwan1471 Posts
This is the statement that really pisses me off the most. Basically, blah blah blah... we care less about your Brood War leagues that made us who we are than our short term profit through SC2. That's really what it comes down to. You care about A, you also care about B... well, if you're willing to sacrifice A over B, it's pretty clear what you *really* love. | ||
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DragonDefonce
United States790 Posts
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Heimatloser
Germany1494 Posts
proleague viewers on streams: 1.000 + koreans thats not even 1%, still blizzard wants to shut down eventual rivalry | ||
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atombombforpeace
United States408 Posts
Now to find out if there's anyway to support SC2 or blizzard without supporting the activision part of it...(while still watching BW of course). | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On November 04 2010 23:21 BLinD-RawR wrote: I think Blizzard really wants to protect their rights....they're just being overprotective.... Don't you think it's slightly suspicious that they didn't do this 10 years ago and that all this has happened after SC2 has come out? I personally don't believe it's a coincidence at all. | ||
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McDonalds
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
On November 04 2010 23:45 Heimatloser wrote: gsl viewers on streams: 1.000.000 + koreans proleague viewers on streams: 1.000 + koreans thats not even 1%, still blizzard wants to shut down eventual rivalry Can you even watch the GSL on TV at this point? I was under the impression that the GSL stream numbers included the Korean viewership. | ||
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darklordjac
Canada2231 Posts
On November 04 2010 23:45 Heimatloser wrote: gsl viewers on streams: 1.000.000 + koreans proleague viewers on streams: 1.000 + koreans thats not even 1%, still blizzard wants to shut down eventual rivalry But proleague is also on TV and gsl is only on streams so you need to add in the number of people watching it on TV | ||
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