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SoLaR[i.C]
United States2969 Posts
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city42
1656 Posts
On November 05 2010 01:03 OreoBoi wrote: So... Blizzard said "pay us money to broadcast OSL", and they did. And now they say "no screw you, we're suing you for broadcasting starcraft BW because we want MORE money". What? You have to pay a licensing fee for every tournament. They paid one for the Korean Air league, but not for the current Bacchus league, so Blizzard is suing them. | ||
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awu25
United States2003 Posts
there are barely any b-teamers left | ||
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Kaolla
China2999 Posts
On November 05 2010 00:31 C.W. wrote: You're a freaking retard. Buying a game does not give you the IP rights to it. Did you actually read any of the freaking agreements you agreed to? You just pay for that you are allowed to play the game. And that is sure ok with me. Idiot. User was warned for this post a) as if anyone reads the agreements... im sure almost no one actually reads it... b) i think in our world it is quite normal that when you buy something you actually own it and you can do whatever you want with it (as long as you dont break any law using it (killing someone or w/e)... if i buy a can of coke i don't have to pay coca cola to show it on tv, if i buy a nike football i don't have to pay nike to show a game on tv where that ball was used... (yea might be a bad comparison blabla etc, im sure there's also counter arguments, i dont care, don't wanna start that discussion again) I'm happy it's ok with you, but respect other people's opinion too? Especially when you make it seem like they are saying something delusional and their opinion isn't that strange at all... You start by saying he's a freaking retard, then you end it with a totally unnessecary "Idiot", imo you're lucky not to be banned... | ||
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2WeaK
Canada550 Posts
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Blobskillz
Germany548 Posts
On November 05 2010 01:10 Kaolla wrote: b) i think in our world it is quite normal that when you buy something you actually own it and you can do whatever you want with it (as long as you dont break any law using it (killing someone or w/e)... if i buy a can of coke i don't have to pay coca cola to show it on tv, if i buy a nike football i don't have to pay nike to show a game on tv where that ball was used... (yea might be a bad comparison blabla etc, im sure there's also counter arguments, i dont care, don't wanna start that discussion again) that's where you got it wrong. sticking to your example it would be liek this. You buy a bottle of coke ( fine ) you show it on TV ( fine ) and now why Coke would sue you you buy the bottle you resell the bottle the process of reselling something when you dont own the rights to do so is why Blizazrd started the sueing | ||
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Borknagarush
176 Posts
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AyJay
1515 Posts
On November 05 2010 01:19 Blobskillz wrote: that's where you got it wrong. sticking to your example it would be liek this. You buy a bottle of coke ( fine ) you show it on TV ( fine ) and now why Coke would sue you you buy the bottle you resell the bottle the process of reselling something when you dont own the rights to do so is why Blizazrd started the sueing I think it's like buying coke and calling it Pepsi would be better example. + Show Spoiler + Lol On November 05 2010 01:22 Borknagarush wrote: Well im waiting when one team monopolizes GSL and game will stop evolving. Luckily there will be WC4 in 2012. what are you talking about? | ||
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C.W.
88 Posts
Also knowing nowadays that you just get to own the copy of a programe that you paid for,no more - no less, should be common. The legal world works thru contracts. You can design it after your interests and needs. Not much room for big opinions here. Also the intolerance began when he started the personal affront due to the expression of my opinion in my post - why should I tolerate his? Quid pro Quo. Thanks for your insight. | ||
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Kralic
Canada2628 Posts
This will hurt us for now, but it might open up a brighter future in e-sports, it might not. It is impossible to tell what will happen in the future. | ||
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SoLaR[i.C]
United States2969 Posts
My question is; what has the reaction from TOP Broodwar players been? The legal aspects are clearly above and beyond them, but I wonder if any have made it known that they will be changing games soon if everything falls through. | ||
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awu25
United States2003 Posts
On November 05 2010 01:29 SoLaR[i.C] wrote: To be honest I don't think you're allowed to even show Coke on TV without their explicit permission. There's a reason why Mythbusters covers the label on every household item they use. My question is; what has the reaction from TOP Broodwar players been? The legal aspects are clearly above and beyond them, but I wonder if any have made it known that they will be changing games soon if everything falls through. you're right, they're not that's why in a lot of movies, you'll see a general label of "Soda" or "Chips" instead of an actual brand | ||
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renzy
Canada781 Posts
On November 05 2010 01:29 SoLaR[i.C] wrote: To be honest I don't think you're allowed to even show Coke on TV without their explicit permission. There's a reason why Mythbusters covers the label on every household item they use. My question is; what has the reaction from TOP Broodwar players been? The legal aspects are clearly above and beyond them, but I wonder if any have made it known that they will be changing games soon if everything falls through. Correct me if I'm wrong, but when you show a brand on TV/movie like a Toyota car, the company that has their product shown has to pay YOU in some way, not the other way around. I think it has to do with free advertisement for that company. | ||
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torm3ntin
Brazil2534 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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a9arnn
United States1537 Posts
Paul Sams, Chief Operating Officer of Blizzard, said 'We asked OGN to either acquire the legal right to broadcast or stop the process of the league on October 22, but all we got in return was the already planned schedule of new OSL and MSL from KeSPA. This only meant that they'd go forward without our consent.' He also said 'We strongly believe that OSL and GSL can co-exist, and we wish the best with the OGN programs. However, it is more important that we protect our rights, and it's a shame that we have to sort this out in such a way.' Now wait a second. 'We strongly believe that OSL and GSL can co-exist, and we wish the best with the OGN programs'... No love for MBCGame? This doesn't seem very good for MBC, because Blizzard doesn't seem to like them one bit. Also, it seems like KeSPA just wanted to get the negotiations sped up by showing their schedules. From what it seems, the arguments keep going around in circles, no progress at all. Now I understand Blizz's standpoint, but KeSPA has to keep these leagues running for the teams and the players. | ||
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2WeaK
Canada550 Posts
On November 05 2010 01:40 a9arnn wrote: Now wait a second. 'We strongly believe that OSL and GSL can co-exist, and we wish the best with the OGN programs'... No love for MBCGame? This doesn't seem very good for MBC, because Blizzard doesn't seem to like them one bit. arent both gretech/ogn owned by CJ? which could have led to that declaration... | ||
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McDonalds
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
On November 05 2010 01:36 renzy wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but when you show a brand on TV/movie like a Toyota car, the company that has their product shown has to pay YOU in some way, not the other way around. I think it has to do with free advertisement for that company. You're thinking of product placement. Companies will pay to have their product featured in a show, movie, etc. But "free advertising" isn't a legal defense which is why a lot of logos in music videos have heavy blur applied to them. | ||
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Kralic
Canada2628 Posts
On November 05 2010 01:36 renzy wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but when you show a brand on TV/movie like a Toyota car, the company that has their product shown has to pay YOU in some way, not the other way around. I think it has to do with free advertisement for that company. This is pretty much off topic but... Let us bring it back to the video game world. Gran Turismo is/was the echelon of racing games. They needed to still pay for the licensing fee's to car companies to use their cars in the game. GT usually never had the cars get damaged in the earlier games (never played anything passed 2) this was part of their deal with the companies to license the cars to be used in the games. This is the same with sports games, you need to get the rights to use the teams from the teams or organisation itself thus FIFA having most of the teams and PES having a select few. | ||
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