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HeaDStrong
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Scotland785 Posts
November 04 2010 16:52 GMT
#141
Stop talking about reselling. Nothing is being resold here. What they sell is a high level competitive play which if I am not mistaken does not come packed together with the game when you buy it. So it's not Blizzard's property.
AyJay
Profile Joined April 2010
1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-04 16:56:08
November 04 2010 16:54 GMT
#142
On November 05 2010 01:52 HeaDStrong wrote:
Stop talking about reselling. Nothing is being resold here. What they sell is a high level competitive play which if I am not mistaken does not come packed together with the game when you buy it. So it's not Blizzard's property.

The game itself is Blizzards property

All the sound, unit ideas, graphics, engine etc. is made by Blizzard.

That's why it's so hard for some people to get google partnership as gamers on youtube, because games don't actually belong to them and they can't make money off it despite doing commentary etc...
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
November 04 2010 16:56 GMT
#143
On November 05 2010 01:54 AyJay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2010 01:52 HeaDStrong wrote:
Stop talking about reselling. Nothing is being resold here. What they sell is a high level competitive play which if I am not mistaken does not come packed together with the game when you buy it. So it's not Blizzard's property.

The game itself is Blizzards property

All the sound, unit ideas, graphics, engine etc. is made by Blizzard.

But the strategies, maps, execution, replays are really not blizzard's. The progamers and the progaming organization has a share of that also.

Blizzard is just going around suing everyone now.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
November 04 2010 16:57 GMT
#144
CJ should just buy out the rest of the stock for Gretech and give rights to MBCgame/OGN/KeSPA
2WeaK
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada550 Posts
November 04 2010 16:59 GMT
#145
On November 05 2010 01:56 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2010 01:54 AyJay wrote:
On November 05 2010 01:52 HeaDStrong wrote:
Stop talking about reselling. Nothing is being resold here. What they sell is a high level competitive play which if I am not mistaken does not come packed together with the game when you buy it. So it's not Blizzard's property.

The game itself is Blizzards property

All the sound, unit ideas, graphics, engine etc. is made by Blizzard.

But the strategies, maps, execution, replays are really not blizzard's. The progamers and the progaming organization has a share of that also.

Blizzard is just going around suing everyone now.


Except that all the material you produce using the game engine is property of Blizzard, since you agreed to forfeit your rights in the term of use. I think.
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
November 04 2010 17:14 GMT
#146
I haven't been following the Blizzard vs Kespa/OGN debate too closely, mostly because I never watched the Korean proscene to begin with, so I could care less what happens now, but from a legal standpoint, does Blizzard not have every right to do this? I mean, pushing aside whether or not it screws over the fans, and whether or not Blizzard benefited from Kespa making the game so popular, the fact is that Blizzard does own the game, and you cannot broadcast it without their consent no? Or is that the debate going on right now?
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2094 Posts
November 04 2010 17:15 GMT
#147
The contradiction between "we want to see the OGN shows go well" and "we're suing" is pretty gross.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2311 Posts
November 04 2010 17:17 GMT
#148
On November 05 2010 01:59 2WeaK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2010 01:56 MuffinDude wrote:
On November 05 2010 01:54 AyJay wrote:
On November 05 2010 01:52 HeaDStrong wrote:
Stop talking about reselling. Nothing is being resold here. What they sell is a high level competitive play which if I am not mistaken does not come packed together with the game when you buy it. So it's not Blizzard's property.

The game itself is Blizzards property

All the sound, unit ideas, graphics, engine etc. is made by Blizzard.

But the strategies, maps, execution, replays are really not blizzard's. The progamers and the progaming organization has a share of that also.

Blizzard is just going around suing everyone now.


Except that all the material you produce using the game engine is property of Blizzard, since you agreed to forfeit your rights in the term of use. I think.


Only if this was clearly said in the licence agreement. If not, they can only block using this contain, they actually cannot use it without author's permition. I think.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
November 04 2010 17:18 GMT
#149
Blizzard sure loves money- ah.. i mean ip rights
( ・´ー・`)
zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
November 04 2010 17:20 GMT
#150
These kind of threads are useless, it only starts another flaming war with everyone getting banned.
Can't wait for Blizzard to get schooled by Koreans! Korea Fighting!
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1668 Posts
November 04 2010 17:20 GMT
#151
They didn't do anything for years, and now they baby cry for starcraft 1, come one Blizzard, just let bw in peace, this is so lame.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
November 04 2010 17:23 GMT
#152
Hey man, we're just trying to protect our rights.
KT_Violet
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5753 Posts
November 04 2010 17:26 GMT
#153
On November 05 2010 01:57 Milkis wrote:
CJ should just buy out the rest of the stock for Gretech and give rights to MBCgame/OGN/KeSPA


Haha, blizzard would be like "WTF, we gave them the broadcasting rights for like nothing for three fucking years!" xD
night terrors
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China1284 Posts
November 04 2010 17:27 GMT
#154
On November 05 2010 02:23 JIJIyO wrote:
Hey man, we're just trying to protect our rights.


Hey man, we're just trying to protect our rights.
Through high and low, bisu boy, through high and low.
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
November 04 2010 17:28 GMT
#155
On November 04 2010 22:42 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 22:33 ichimarugin680 wrote:
Copyright is meant for this. The negotiation failed next stop court. Its a legal move even tho I love brood war, can't help but think blizzard has all the rights to do this against illegal tourneys


I gotta agree with this. But it still sucks ass.

But if i remember right, Blizzard threatened to shut down the whole game if they won't follow the 'rules'. So it really doesn't matter if they are in Korean court and if Blizzard loses this because of it.

So, did i understand the shutting down right? Can they actually shut down the game/scene somehow even if they lose?



doubt it. get games + lan = blizz can't do anything

i hate blizzard they have been going downhill for a while :3
genai
Profile Joined July 2009
Croatia78 Posts
November 04 2010 17:30 GMT
#156
God i hope they win and stop those poachers and idiots in kespa!

Blizz loves money, nothing around that... but the main issue here is: they are making money by using game blizz made, without paying the licence to do so! blizz has never went after someone who used their stuff without making money (icefrog for example made it sure that people dont send him donations for dota, cause he is not allowed to make money off of dota)

they are not suing progamers and teams who only do what they agreed to when the game is bought: playing it!! they are suing people who get paid for the rights to broadcast it even tho those rights are not their to sell, and those who get sponsor money by broadcasting when they are not allowed to!

(and i like watching bw)
JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
November 04 2010 17:32 GMT
#157
On November 05 2010 02:27 night terrors wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2010 02:23 JIJIyO wrote:
Hey man, we're just trying to protect our rights.


Hey man, we're just trying to protect our rights.

I'm not sure what you mean, but I'm on BW's side. I'm just mocking Blizzard because I'm getting tired of hearing that every single time =/
KT_Violet
zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
November 04 2010 17:34 GMT
#158
On November 05 2010 02:30 genai wrote:
God i hope they win and stop those poachers and idiots in kespa!

Blizz loves money, nothing around that... but the main issue here is: they are making money by using game blizz made, without paying the licence to do so! blizz has never went after someone who used their stuff without making money (icefrog for example made it sure that people dont send him donations for dota, cause he is not allowed to make money off of dota)

they are not suing progamers and teams who only do what they agreed to when the game is bought: playing it!! they are suing people who get paid for the rights to broadcast it even tho those rights are not their to sell, and those who get sponsor money by broadcasting when they are not allowed to!

(and i like watching bw)

I don't know what world you live in, but if these "poachers" in Kespa were to be stopped, our progamers and teams would cease to exist.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 04 2010 17:34 GMT
#159
On November 05 2010 02:18 prototype. wrote:
Blizzard sure loves money- ah.. i mean ip rights

Every company does, that's the point
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
November 04 2010 17:35 GMT
#160
On November 05 2010 02:30 genai wrote:
God i hope they win and stop those poachers and idiots in kespa!

Blizz loves money, nothing around that... but the main issue here is: they are making money by using game blizz made, without paying the licence to do so! blizz has never went after someone who used their stuff without making money (icefrog for example made it sure that people dont send him donations for dota, cause he is not allowed to make money off of dota)

they are not suing progamers and teams who only do what they agreed to when the game is bought: playing it!! they are suing people who get paid for the rights to broadcast it even tho those rights are not their to sell, and those who get sponsor money by broadcasting when they are not allowed to!

(and i like watching bw)


I think you can accept donations. For example, Carbonite, the makers of a quest-mapping add-on you can use for WOW cannot straight up ask for a fee to use their content, because it depends on, and makes use of WOW, a license they don't have. However they do freely ask for donations all the time, and it's kind of like their indirect way of being paid - even though you can get it for free.
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