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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
November 12 2015 03:03 GMT
#161
Looking at the ilvl number of heroics to naxx is incredibly disingenuous though, the only reason the percentage increase is less is because 630 is a significantly larger number then 187. In terms of actual numerical increases (the thing that scales the dps) each expansion seems to increase the ilvl gap per tier dramatically.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
November 12 2015 03:06 GMT
#162
In fact its probably more helpful to imagine ilvl as a staircase where each step gets larger. Or something like that, because ilvl itself is literally just a level linking to a predetermined set of stats that have been scaled to a certain point, scaled not on what percentage they are, but scaled off of what the previous number was.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 12 2015 08:41 GMT
#163
Eurgh, reading the bear changes i feel like they are going to be very good again.
we’ve redesigned several parts of the Druid combat ability toolkit to instead focus on those core defensive ideas—health, armor, mitigation, and regeneration—while deemphasizing dodge.

How do you balance that :s
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
November 12 2015 08:48 GMT
#164
That just means they will mitigate less damage, more often, rather than just being either dodge and take zero damage, or not dodge and scare the shit out of the healers. You know, like every other tank
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-12 08:50:21
November 12 2015 08:49 GMT
#165
"Got this great new interactive gameplay system, it's where you don't do anything."

On November 12 2015 17:48 Teoita wrote:
That just means they will mitigate less damage, more often, rather than just being either dodge and take zero damage, or not dodge and scare the shit out of the healers. You know, like every other tank

This is the bait to incentivise a boring rotation.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 12 2015 08:51 GMT
#166
On November 12 2015 17:48 Teoita wrote:
That just means they will mitigate less damage, more often, rather than just being either dodge and take zero damage, or not dodge and scare the shit out of the healers. You know, like every other tank

Yes but without block or parry onto off "less emphasized" dodge. They will either go back to having like double the hp of other tanks or the new more armor and hp regen shit they add will make the absurdly strong. Cuz u cant mitigate damage off of nothing. Guess this is what beta is for though xD
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-12 08:54:52
November 12 2015 08:54 GMT
#167
Balance wise im more concerned about the Affinity stuff. Hybrids have always been a clusterfuck.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 12 2015 08:57 GMT
#168
Yeah, right just Rogue to go and we are done! Maybe announcement tomorrow of when Beta is due :o
They said they were working on it as soon as blizzcon finishing to get it started asap. #Dream
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 12 2015 13:56 GMT
#169
Class Overview System!

Blizzard announced that it will blog about the upcoming changes it wants to make for each specific class in the upcoming expansion. This expansion they are changing the design of 12 classes and making sure they are all different and will list the changes and the direction they want to take said character.
Over the next week they will all be released and i'll link them here for you all to see!

Main Website - Linking All

Hunter Changes Blog
Priest Changes Blog
Mage Changes Blog
Paladin Changes Blog
Warlock Changes Blog
Death Knight Changes Blog
Shaman Changes Blog
Warrior Changes Blog
Monk Changes Blog
Druid Changes Blog
Rogue Changes Blog
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TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
November 12 2015 15:18 GMT
#170
On November 12 2015 17:51 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2015 17:48 Teoita wrote:
That just means they will mitigate less damage, more often, rather than just being either dodge and take zero damage, or not dodge and scare the shit out of the healers. You know, like every other tank

Yes but without block or parry onto off "less emphasized" dodge. They will either go back to having like double the hp of other tanks or the new more armor and hp regen shit they add will make the absurdly strong. Cuz u cant mitigate damage off of nothing. Guess this is what beta is for though xD

Well, their mastery increases their max HP and healing received so that may be the case

Also rumors were saying beta 2 weeks after blizzcon
rip
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 12 2015 15:23 GMT
#171
Yeah hoping Beta streams pop up over the holidays be nice to watch maybe even play if i get lucky!
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21952 Posts
November 12 2015 16:14 GMT
#172
On November 12 2015 17:51 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2015 17:48 Teoita wrote:
That just means they will mitigate less damage, more often, rather than just being either dodge and take zero damage, or not dodge and scare the shit out of the healers. You know, like every other tank

Yes but without block or parry onto off "less emphasized" dodge. They will either go back to having like double the hp of other tanks or the new more armor and hp regen shit they add will make the absurdly strong. Cuz u cant mitigate damage off of nothing. Guess this is what beta is for though xD

I could see them going with %dmg reduction from some part of their rotation because your right. just giving them a massive HP pool/armor will give issues. Issues bears have had before
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
November 12 2015 16:18 GMT
#173
So overall I'm liking all changes for the classes I care about.

Really hyped for the Priest (Disc/Shadow) changes, can't wait to transform into a void tentacle hentai monster

Only small thing I dislike is that mastery seems to be the best stat for all tankspecs. I mean you can't tell for sure, but they all seem very, very good.

Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21952 Posts
November 12 2015 16:23 GMT
#174
On November 13 2015 01:18 Vallelol wrote:
So overall I'm liking all changes for the classes I care about.

Really hyped for the Priest (Disc/Shadow) changes, can't wait to transform into a void tentacle hentai monster

Only small thing I dislike is that mastery seems to be the best stat for all tankspecs. I mean you can't tell for sure, but they all seem very, very good.

I feel its a result of the removal of Dodge/Parry. Crit/Haste/Multistrike are all offensive stats so mastery becomes the go to defensive stat.
I would have liked for Dodge to still be in the game as an attainable stat but it go's against Blizzards gear policy in that it would create items only tanks want and no one else, ever.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-12 16:26:23
November 12 2015 16:26 GMT
#175
Obviously there was a missed opportunity for CombatOutlaw to be the Rogue tank spec, with a mastery that gave dodge. :3
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
November 12 2015 16:27 GMT
#176
On November 13 2015 01:26 Seuss wrote:
Obviously there was a missed opportunity for CombatOutlaw to be the Rogue tank spec, with a mastery that gave dodge. :3


Reminds me of this: Untouchable Rogue 1: Mother Shahraz
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 12 2015 16:36 GMT
#177
On November 13 2015 01:23 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2015 01:18 Vallelol wrote:
So overall I'm liking all changes for the classes I care about.

Really hyped for the Priest (Disc/Shadow) changes, can't wait to transform into a void tentacle hentai monster

Only small thing I dislike is that mastery seems to be the best stat for all tankspecs. I mean you can't tell for sure, but they all seem very, very good.

I feel its a result of the removal of Dodge/Parry. Crit/Haste/Multistrike are all offensive stats so mastery becomes the go to defensive stat.
I would have liked for Dodge to still be in the game as an attainable stat but it go's against Blizzards gear policy in that it would create items only tanks want and no one else, ever.

I still do not like them taking away the dodge/parry i thought that was a shame for tanks. One it helps divide up the plate gear some more and the bonus armor stat was just a cheap fix. Give me dodge parry % numbers i had to strive towards before i can go mass block etc xD

Oh well! New times, new things
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Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
November 12 2015 17:19 GMT
#178
I'm kinda glad parry got fully baked into strength at least, though I'm a bit sad at the loss of dodge as a plate-wearer.

Looking at the Guardian changes. looks good. real good.
Resto looks nice as well.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 12 2015 17:21 GMT
#179
I'm glad that Resto stayed really interactive. I very much enjoy tracking HoTs and stuff, never liked healing on my Pally with that HL spam.
It's your boy Guzma!
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
November 12 2015 19:35 GMT
#180
On November 13 2015 01:14 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2015 17:51 Pandemona wrote:
On November 12 2015 17:48 Teoita wrote:
That just means they will mitigate less damage, more often, rather than just being either dodge and take zero damage, or not dodge and scare the shit out of the healers. You know, like every other tank

Yes but without block or parry onto off "less emphasized" dodge. They will either go back to having like double the hp of other tanks or the new more armor and hp regen shit they add will make the absurdly strong. Cuz u cant mitigate damage off of nothing. Guess this is what beta is for though xD

I could see them going with %dmg reduction from some part of their rotation because your right. just giving them a massive HP pool/armor will give issues. Issues bears have had before

My understanding is the issues is they had a ton of HP but healers couldn't keep up with their damage intake, which should be fixed by their mastery increasing their healing received?
rip
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