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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14113 Posts
May 14 2014 03:36 GMT
#3741
Minnies coming to the off season with a pocket full of sweet sweet salery space and a playoff caliber team to deserve it.

But god this is a good game. hope it goes to game 7.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
May 14 2014 04:11 GMT
#3742
I knew that was coming. Minnesota deserved a better a much better fate then this
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
May 14 2014 04:20 GMT
#3743
On May 14 2014 12:08 Flaccid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 11:32 QuanticHawk wrote:
TONIGT OWNED god that wa satisfying


Yeah! Fleury shits the bed, Rags win + jimmy talking to himself for an entire page. Wicked night!

seriously. that ruled. so satisfying
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BigAsia
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada451 Posts
May 14 2014 04:46 GMT
#3744
Patrick Kane is pretty frecking good.

In other news Crosby sucks
YOLO
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 06:20:12
May 14 2014 06:05 GMT
#3745
On May 14 2014 13:46 BigAsia wrote:
Patrick Kane is pretty frecking good.
In other news Crosby sucks

The content here is so 1337 i just can't get over it.
it is good for a laugh though.

NYR is a "terrible hockey team", "Crosby Sucks"...
Crosby is one of the best hockey players in the world.
the Rangers are in the final 4.

and , we have a stats expert who says Wilson was a better coach for the Leafs than Carlyle because he tried to fit a square peg into a round hole. That is, imposing a puck possession game play style on a no talent team. When ur team has no talent you do what countless no-talent teams have done over the past 50 years. And, that "no talent" is all relative between the 2 teams playing each other.

nevermind that the leafs were never close even making the playoffs during Wilson's 4 year tenure. i have a puck possession chart and that's all that matters.

LOL.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
May 14 2014 06:07 GMT
#3746
Always good to see the Pens fall. Now we just need the Hawks to fall and then all will be right in the world.
Never Knows Best.
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
May 14 2014 06:51 GMT
#3747
On May 14 2014 15:07 Slaughter wrote:
Always good to see the Pens fall. Now we just need the Hawks to fall and then all will be right in the world.


My brother from another mother! (bitter Red Wings fan here)
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
May 14 2014 07:05 GMT
#3748
Can't wait for montreal to burn on Wednesday. The bruins might now win games 6s (seriously its been like 5 years since they won a game 6) but they sure as hell win game 7s. And we know what happens in montreal when the bruins eliminate the habs
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
May 14 2014 07:08 GMT
#3749
On May 14 2014 15:51 Funnytoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 15:07 Slaughter wrote:
Always good to see the Pens fall. Now we just need the Hawks to fall and then all will be right in the world.


My brother from another mother! (bitter Red Wings fan here)


Yes something all of us Red Wings fans can enjoy
Never Knows Best.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
May 14 2014 07:26 GMT
#3750
I like how all the pundits are saying the penguins are going to get blown up lol. I'd say at most some fringe guys get moved/ leave in free agency and possibly a coaching change. Malkin, MAF, Letang and several others are not going anywhere.
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Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
May 14 2014 08:41 GMT
#3751
On May 14 2014 16:26 Orcasgt24 wrote:
I like how all the pundits are saying the penguins are going to get blown up lol. I'd say at most some fringe guys get moved/ leave in free agency and possibly a coaching change. Malkin, MAF, Letang and several others are not going anywhere.


No way they're moving Crosby either, he just puts too many people in the seats.
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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
May 14 2014 13:29 GMT
#3752
So botown or the has? I think it'll boil down to how Carey price plays, you can probably safely assume the habs will pot 2 max
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
May 14 2014 13:57 GMT
#3753
pretty nice in depth interview with Curtis Joseph about tonight's goalies and other issues.

This interview is very insightful because even though he has never worn a pair of skates he is a fellow in the Society of Actuaries and can break everything down to pure stats.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/curtis-joseph-on-jonas-hiller-ryan-miller-toronto-maple-leafs-martin-brodeur-tuukka-rask-carey-price/
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Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8898 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 14:17:26
May 14 2014 14:13 GMT
#3754
On May 14 2014 16:26 Orcasgt24 wrote:
I like how all the pundits are saying the penguins are going to get blown up lol. I'd say at most some fringe guys get moved/ leave in free agency and possibly a coaching change. Malkin, MAF, Letang and several others are not going anywhere.


Man, something has to happen with Pittsburgh if they expect to compete in the playoffs. There is no (allegedly) top tier team that is as top heavy as the Penguins. And it seems that year-over-year they get whittled down further and lose ever more depth.

This chart is particularly telling. It shows the share of scoring that a team's 3rd and 4th lines represent.

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Pretty telling, eh? Look at Chicago, LA and Boston and contrast that with Pittsburgh. People were looking at this chart months ago and coming to the conclusion that the Sharks were not as good as people thought and that they wouldn't get past LA.

Anyways, point being that the elite teams in the NHL show very good possession stats. And Pittsburgh gets eaten alive when their bottom 6 forwards are on the ice. You can't give up that much and expect to compete at the top - which is what people expect of Pittsburgh.

edit: + Show Spoiler [<3 Cujo] +
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
May 14 2014 14:37 GMT
#3755
[image loading]

THat chart is hilarious. Their drop really coincided with the Staal trade. It murdered their bottom six because he killed it down there.

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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 17:39:59
May 14 2014 16:37 GMT
#3756
On May 14 2014 16:26 Orcasgt24 wrote:
I like how all the pundits are saying the penguins are going to get blown up lol. I'd say at most some fringe guys get moved/ leave in free agency and possibly a coaching change. Malkin, MAF, Letang and several others are not going anywhere.


OK, so you know for sure Shero's job is safe?
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/pittsburgh-penguins-gm-ray-shero-jeopardy-coach-dan-bylsma-rangers-loss/

if the Shero, Bylsma "regime" is dismantled the new guys will want to review every aspect of the team.
with the new CBA rules "blowing up a team" is easier.
also, your definition get "going to get blown up" needs to be tightened up to have a meaningful debate on whether or not the pundits are "correct".

I'd say these "pundits" are just reporting on the fact that the Mario is going to evaluate everyone from top to bottom, including Shero.

On May 14 2014 23:37 QuanticHawk wrote:
THat chart is hilarious. Their drop really coincided with the Staal trade. It murdered their bottom six because he killed it down there.


the problem is more systemic it is poor drafting...which is why Shero's job is in jeopardy, its not from 1 trade.
"the bottom 6" consists of 6 guys, not 1.



On May 14 2014 23:13 Flaccid wrote:
Pretty telling, eh? Look at Chicago, LA and Boston and contrast that with Pittsburgh. People were looking at this chart months ago and coming to the conclusion that the Sharks were not as good as people thought and that they wouldn't get past LA.


ya, some of these same people were saying Minnesota couldn't compete with Colorado.

at most,
i'd use these kinds of numbers the way Friedman and Maddon use their stats for the Rays in baseball.

At worst, I'd do what Bowman does. Watch hockey 24/7/365.
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sharkeyanti
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1273 Posts
May 14 2014 17:39 GMT
#3757
PIT has two of the top 5 forwards in the NHL, a top-line winger, a great complimentary piece in Kunitz. They also have a young, cheap D-corps that is mobile and deep. Their weaknesses are certainly the bottom 6 and the goalie. You don't "blow up the roster," fire the GM, and fire the coach because you have "only" been one of the most successful franchises of the past decade. With the cap crunch of the past year, and the resultant Staal trade with that, PIT has been going through a transition. That's a pretty enviable transition, in that they were one of the league's best teams despite an absurd number of injuries, terrible bottom six, and a goalie who wants to botch every game.

The only rationale I can see in firing Bylsma is to shake things up, which definitely has an effect on teams. But the available coaches appear to be meh. As the cap goes up, they'll be able to fill out that bottom six.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
May 14 2014 17:47 GMT
#3758
i say Shero is gone.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
May 14 2014 17:50 GMT
#3759
Their regular season success in spite of injuries, lack of depth, and MAF/D speaks more about Sid/Malkin/Neal/Kunitz/Jokinen than it does about Bylsma. That top 6 is one of the best in the league, and features two of the top players in the league. They damn well better be putting up tons of points. In the regular season, that will carry you a while.

In the playoffs, when you run into deeper teams that can run 3 good lines, adjust to your play over a seven game series, and play match ups, but you cant because the bottom six sucks dick, that is when things go to shit. That is more on Shero than anyone. Crappy drafting, not filling depth needs. I think Bylsma is just an ok coach, but if you are gonna fault him for anything, it should be discipline and player management. Tanner Glass should absolutely not have played last night. His team also tries wayyy too many cutesy stretch passes and dumb cross ice passes in the zone. His team, esp Sid, Malkin and Neal, also very quickly get frustrated and take dumbass penalties.

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LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
May 14 2014 18:15 GMT
#3760
Heard on the radio that Bylsma may be getting the axe soon. I think it was John Buccigross who said that an 'inside source' told him that the players are frustrated with his persona and style.

In general I think coaches get a bit too much blame for things, but having a coach that players want to play for does make a huge difference...
:-)
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