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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
Pardon my words. | ||
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Yurie
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On June 02 2017 04:55 LegalLord wrote: Too bad. Those two walking egos certainly belonged together. But I guess Trump didn't give enough handouts to make it worth his while. At least Musk knows a bit of Science and wants to implement it. If I could pick between two showmen I know which one I would prefer. | ||
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m4ini
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On June 02 2017 04:56 Artisreal wrote: I hope during the next press briefing they get ripped to shreds for this junk of a speech. Pardon my words. Every speech Trump gives is bizarre and nonsensical. And he gets ripped at every press conference. This is nothing special. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On June 02 2017 04:55 Danglars wrote: "I was elected to serve Pittsburgh not Paris" That one's sure to cause a lot of screeching. "Redistribute wealth out of the United States into the Green Climate Fund ... all on top of America's existing foreign aid payments." Ouch. You're right. I forgot this is a zero sum game and these issues are mutually exclusive. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 02 2017 04:56 Yurie wrote: At least Musk knows a bit of Science and wants to implement it. If I could pick between two showmen I know which one I would prefer. Tesla just fired a woman for reporting sexual harassment and then said they really fired her because she was promoted to many times over more qualified men. Musk is a smart dude that hires some really shitty people to manage his companies. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jun/01/tesla-fires-aj-vandermeyden-lawsuit-sexual-harrassment | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On June 02 2017 04:57 LegalLord wrote: Every speech Trump gives is bizarre and nonsensical. And he gets ripped at every press conference. This is nothing special. His being a continuous delirium as opposed to a temporary one does not make his being delirious suddenly ok. | ||
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
Majority of Americans in every US state supports Paris climate deal Trump is poised to withdraw from Source And he wants to pull out because the people want it. Covfefe-realtiy. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On June 02 2017 02:08 Danglars wrote: Americans picked up in our foreign surveillance programs shouldn't have fears that our government is listening to their calls and might rattle about it to media. That's why who does the unmasking and how unmasked surveillance is handled matters. You humorously allege sinister conspiracies--all this has to be is lax standards and one miscreant in a department. I want Americans not to be spied on by their own government. Wide dissimination of unmasked intercepts, and a host of other possibilities that absolutely need investigation, says civil rights are in bad shape right now. I don't even need to mention or allege conspiracy with who happened to run the NSA/CIA/FBI for this case. Comprendes? But that doesn't involve a timeline in any way. And again, the loosest possibility (where someone ordered unmasking in the hopes of someone later leaking it) is literally impossible to distinguish from someone doing their job. I mean, I don't think asking for unmasking in the context of communications with a former Russian spymaster represents a lax standard. Maybe if it were indirect unmasking (e.g. Kisyak talks with Person A about talking with Person B, person B's identity revealed), but even that seems reasonable. Edit: I mention conspiracy because that's literally what many are discussing, two or more government officials conspiring to unmask+leak. Otherwise no departmental documents are going to help at all, right? If the unmasker was the leaker you need brain hacks. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On June 02 2017 04:55 m4ini wrote: China though. Clearly. Stealing jobs and stuff (ivanka still producing over there?). Paris accord is a conspiracy to strengthen china/weaken the US. As in, US would have to cut more emissions than China? As a result more regulations on US than China over the next few years? | ||
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
"AMERICA FINALLY HAS A LEADER THAT ANSWERS/LISTENS ONLY TO THE CITIZENS" What the fuck did I just hear. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On June 02 2017 05:03 Artisreal wrote: AND NOW AFTER PRAISING HIMSELF THIRTY ODD TIMES HE NEEDS SOMEONE TO SOOTH HIS EGO EVEN MORE! "AMERICA FINALLY HAS A LEADER THAT ANSWERS/LISTENS ONLY TO THE CITIZENS" What the fuck did I just hear. He sure was listening to the citizens when he dropped Medicare negotiating drug prices like a hot potato after lunch with big pharma | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
The way understand it, is that literally the whole rest of the world actually does stuff, where as you just fucking announced that you wont. What the actual fuck? As in, US would have to cut more emissions than China? As a result more regulations on US than China over the next few years? Eh? As in, that's what trump just described, which is retarded beyond belief. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 02 2017 05:02 NeoIllusions wrote: As in, US would have to cut more emissions than China? As a result more regulations on US than China over the next few years? China is already investing more in emission reduction that the US and EU together. They see the future and are dumping money into renewable energy. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On June 02 2017 04:57 On_Slaught wrote: You're right. I forgot this is a zero sum game and these issues are mutually exclusive. People who liked Obama rhetoric for eight years suddenly forgetting when the other side does it. I think Trump would characterize it as 'sad.' | ||
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On June 02 2017 04:54 NeoIllusions wrote: Care to elaborate? On the surface, Paris Accords seems to be about producing less greenhouse gases and supporting green energy. Essentially, do stuff to better the planet. Is there something in the agreements you are adamantly against? Also for further understanding, what's your stance on climate change? I'm not against treaties in general, but I am against treaties that aren't fundamentally fair to the US and I'm not interested in favor of paying higher energy costs for incredibly marginal environmental impacts. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 02 2017 05:04 m4ini wrote: "While the rest of the world does little". The way understand it, is that literally the whole rest of the world actually does stuff, where as you just fucking announced that you wont. What the actual fuck? Eh? As in, that's what trump just described, which is retarded beyond belief. You are seeing how he got elected. By feeding the narrative that the US does everything and you are all garbage freeloaders. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On June 02 2017 05:01 On_Slaught wrote: Scott Pruit is an objectively bad human being. A little too smarmy in terms of delivery, but the rest of the content was basically right-on. | ||
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