• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 21:31
CET 03:31
KST 11:31
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon [D] Hacker peak in sc2 ? Liquibets sc2 season 30
Tourneys
SC2 iNu's Battles #22 SC4ALL: II Venue Change Announcement! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Starcraft 2 Advance [G] How to playtest arcade maps [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ List of top players active on ShieldBattery Rollback Netcode in Brood War [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [$1250] International ShieldBattery League Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Strategy
Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy)
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Dating: How's your luck? Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Playlenda
Playlendapro
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10756 users

US Politics Mega-thread - Page 2702

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2700 2701 2702 2703 2704 10093 Next
Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

In order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a re-read to refresh your memory! The vast majority of you are contributing in a healthy way, keep it up!

NOTE: When providing a source, explain why you feel it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion if it's not obvious.
Also take note that unsubstantiated tweets/posts meant only to rekindle old arguments can result in a mod action.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-30 01:27:10
December 30 2015 01:25 GMT
#54021
On December 30 2015 09:56 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 09:08 m4ini wrote:
First time i hear the EU is low regulation. Especially the comparison to the FDA is off, since EU law is a lot stricter than rulings of the FDA. GMO etc, or even ridiculously dumb stuff like a ban on "not correctly shaped bananas and cucumbers". And that's not made up, that was a law from 1995 to 2008.

edit: or when it comes to labels, in fact.

Look at most economic freedom of the world indexes. Scandinavia and Canada best the US by a large margin in regulation categories, and the US maintains overall parity with lower tax burdens.


Freedom®

Manufactured in the United States of America™

All rights reserved*

*We'll sue and/or bomb you if you try some terrorist shit**

**Terrorist shit meaning anything we don't like
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
December 30 2015 01:31 GMT
#54022
The US is exceptional over all nations. God bless us
rip passion
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 30 2015 02:19 GMT
#54023
On December 30 2015 05:26 ticklishmusic wrote:
Stalin has nice hair, Stalin 2016

Trump spending $$$ could get the vote out for him, which is the weakest link in his campaign

if only he was a better businessman on the operations side.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8777 Posts
December 30 2015 09:55 GMT
#54024
On December 30 2015 10:31 Deathstar wrote:
The US is exceptional over all nations. God bless us


exactly. exceptionally good in some things and exceptionally bad in others.
fawns over the new helipad's rave reviews.
Xendarii
Profile Joined December 2014
327 Posts
December 30 2015 11:16 GMT
#54025
On December 30 2015 10:25 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 09:56 cLutZ wrote:
On December 30 2015 09:08 m4ini wrote:
First time i hear the EU is low regulation. Especially the comparison to the FDA is off, since EU law is a lot stricter than rulings of the FDA. GMO etc, or even ridiculously dumb stuff like a ban on "not correctly shaped bananas and cucumbers". And that's not made up, that was a law from 1995 to 2008.

edit: or when it comes to labels, in fact.

Look at most economic freedom of the world indexes. Scandinavia and Canada best the US by a large margin in regulation categories, and the US maintains overall parity with lower tax burdens.


Freedom®

Manufactured in the United States of America™

All rights reserved*

*We'll sue and/or bomb you if you try some terrorist shit**

**Terrorist shit meaning anything we don't like

This post is funny and sad at the same time because it's so true.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 30 2015 13:45 GMT
#54026
the u.s. is indeed exceptional in the way it behaves given its tech and economic advantages.

switch to some of these other loveable regimes there'll be actual world domination
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Snotling
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany885 Posts
December 30 2015 14:03 GMT
#54027
On December 30 2015 22:45 oneofthem wrote:
the u.s. is indeed exceptional in the way it behaves given its tech and economic advantages.

switch to some of these other loveable regimes there'll be actual world domination


well the us is loosing these advantages fast, and doesnt seem to notice....wonder how that will go......
Xendarii
Profile Joined December 2014
327 Posts
December 30 2015 14:54 GMT
#54028
On December 30 2015 22:45 oneofthem wrote:
the u.s. is indeed exceptional in the way it behaves given its tech and economic advantages.

switch to some of these other loveable regimes there'll be actual world domination

Are you serious? The US are doing their best to make use of their advantages. Ask all those countries that got screwed over the last decades. And with screwed I mean heavily damaged, including millions of innocent people killed and stuff like that. I don't know any other regime that would do worse things.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-30 15:28:27
December 30 2015 15:14 GMT
#54029
On December 30 2015 22:45 oneofthem wrote:
the u.s. is indeed exceptional in the way it behaves given its tech and economic advantages.

switch to some of these other loveable regimes there'll be actual world domination


No other country comes even close to the damage the US did globally since WW2 (or started as many wars in the last 200 years), so in that regard, yeah. Sure. I'll let that idiotic exceptionalism slide - although, it's not something one should be proud about.

On track to MA1950A.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
December 30 2015 17:07 GMT
#54030
On December 31 2015 00:14 m4ini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 22:45 oneofthem wrote:
the u.s. is indeed exceptional in the way it behaves given its tech and economic advantages.

switch to some of these other loveable regimes there'll be actual world domination


No other country comes even close to the damage the US did globally since WW2 (or started as many wars in the last 200 years), so in that regard, yeah. Sure. I'll let that idiotic exceptionalism slide - although, it's not something one should be proud about.



Damage, or achieving greatness? There have been winners and losers all throughout history. Africa has been a loser basically forever. Just because we are a more civilized society at this point doesn't mean things have changed.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 30 2015 17:11 GMT
#54031
On December 31 2015 02:07 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2015 00:14 m4ini wrote:
On December 30 2015 22:45 oneofthem wrote:
the u.s. is indeed exceptional in the way it behaves given its tech and economic advantages.

switch to some of these other loveable regimes there'll be actual world domination


No other country comes even close to the damage the US did globally since WW2 (or started as many wars in the last 200 years), so in that regard, yeah. Sure. I'll let that idiotic exceptionalism slide - although, it's not something one should be proud about.



Damage, or achieving greatness? There have been winners and losers all throughout history. Africa has been a loser basically forever. Just because we are a more civilized society at this point doesn't mean things have changed.

Most of our exceptionalism is self congratulation and holding up old achievements as evidence of current greatness.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-30 17:15:34
December 30 2015 17:14 GMT
#54032
On December 31 2015 02:07 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2015 00:14 m4ini wrote:
On December 30 2015 22:45 oneofthem wrote:
the u.s. is indeed exceptional in the way it behaves given its tech and economic advantages.

switch to some of these other loveable regimes there'll be actual world domination


No other country comes even close to the damage the US did globally since WW2 (or started as many wars in the last 200 years), so in that regard, yeah. Sure. I'll let that idiotic exceptionalism slide - although, it's not something one should be proud about.



Damage, or achieving greatness? There have been winners and losers all throughout history. Africa has been a loser basically forever. Just because we are a more civilized society at this point doesn't mean things have changed.


Well, if we're just looking post-WWII, I'm not sure if any of the wars the U.S. has participated in really helped us "achieve greatness" and most of them had two losers, not a winner and a loser. Unless you count the shadow/Cold War and the numerous CIA activities that destabilized areas, but I suppose one should count those.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-30 17:19:58
December 30 2015 17:19 GMT
#54033
On December 31 2015 02:14 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2015 02:07 Mohdoo wrote:
On December 31 2015 00:14 m4ini wrote:
On December 30 2015 22:45 oneofthem wrote:
the u.s. is indeed exceptional in the way it behaves given its tech and economic advantages.

switch to some of these other loveable regimes there'll be actual world domination


No other country comes even close to the damage the US did globally since WW2 (or started as many wars in the last 200 years), so in that regard, yeah. Sure. I'll let that idiotic exceptionalism slide - although, it's not something one should be proud about.



Damage, or achieving greatness? There have been winners and losers all throughout history. Africa has been a loser basically forever. Just because we are a more civilized society at this point doesn't mean things have changed.


Well, if we're just looking post-WWII, I'm not sure if any of the wars the U.S. has participated in really helped us "achieve greatness" and most of them had two losers, not a winner and a loser. Unless you count the shadow/Cold War and the numerous CIA activities that destabilized areas, but I suppose one should count those.


Of course you count those. By destabilizing all of those regions, we were able to keep ourselves as top dog. USSR went to crap, still a shadow of its former self. Middle Eastern governments basically a mess at this point except for Saudi Arabia, Iran and Israel and we've got 2 of those under our control. South America just kinda does its own thing. But in terms of world influence and the capability for us to be fucked with, just look at the last 60 years. We are a complete wrecking ball and no one comes close. When it comes down to it, we achieved a great deal through to keep ourselves on top. It's no different than what many countries have tried and failed at in the past.
Xendarii
Profile Joined December 2014
327 Posts
December 30 2015 17:51 GMT
#54034
I don't care if I get warned or banned for this post, but Mohdoo, if you're serious and not joking (sorry if that's the case) you're the exact reason why I hate the United States. A big, self-righteous asshole who doesn't care about millions of people murdered and even more lifes ruined by your disgusting country.

User was temp banned for this post.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 30 2015 18:27 GMT
#54035
On December 30 2015 10:25 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 09:56 cLutZ wrote:
On December 30 2015 09:08 m4ini wrote:
First time i hear the EU is low regulation. Especially the comparison to the FDA is off, since EU law is a lot stricter than rulings of the FDA. GMO etc, or even ridiculously dumb stuff like a ban on "not correctly shaped bananas and cucumbers". And that's not made up, that was a law from 1995 to 2008.

edit: or when it comes to labels, in fact.

Look at most economic freedom of the world indexes. Scandinavia and Canada best the US by a large margin in regulation categories, and the US maintains overall parity with lower tax burdens.


Freedom®

Manufactured in the United States of America™

All rights reserved*

*We'll sue and/or bomb you if you try some terrorist shit**

**Terrorist shit meaning anything we don't like


Cite a statistic that has America on par with several other advanced countries, and behind Canada.

Get criticized for blind patriotism.

What?
Freeeeeeedom
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 30 2015 18:27 GMT
#54036
On December 31 2015 02:51 Xendarii wrote:
I don't care if I get warned or banned for this post, but Mohdoo, if you're serious and not joking (sorry if that's the case) you're the exact reason why I hate the United States. A big, self-righteous asshole who doesn't care about millions of people murdered and even more lifes ruined by your disgusting country.

Don't get worked up unnecessarily over a grossly over-simplified and intellectually lazy narrative.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
December 30 2015 18:43 GMT
#54037
On December 30 2015 09:56 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 09:08 m4ini wrote:
First time i hear the EU is low regulation. Especially the comparison to the FDA is off, since EU law is a lot stricter than rulings of the FDA. GMO etc, or even ridiculously dumb stuff like a ban on "not correctly shaped bananas and cucumbers". And that's not made up, that was a law from 1995 to 2008.

edit: or when it comes to labels, in fact.

Look at most economic freedom of the world indexes. Scandinavia and Canada best the US by a large margin in regulation categories, and the US maintains overall parity with lower tax burdens.


Economic freedom is a nice ideological concept, but what has it turned into? The U.S. is behind a lot of "socialist" countries when it comes to things like quality of life, health outcomes, levels of political corruption, safety, etc.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
December 30 2015 18:59 GMT
#54038
On December 31 2015 03:43 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 09:56 cLutZ wrote:
On December 30 2015 09:08 m4ini wrote:
First time i hear the EU is low regulation. Especially the comparison to the FDA is off, since EU law is a lot stricter than rulings of the FDA. GMO etc, or even ridiculously dumb stuff like a ban on "not correctly shaped bananas and cucumbers". And that's not made up, that was a law from 1995 to 2008.

edit: or when it comes to labels, in fact.

Look at most economic freedom of the world indexes. Scandinavia and Canada best the US by a large margin in regulation categories, and the US maintains overall parity with lower tax burdens.


Economic freedom is a nice ideological concept, but what has it turned into? The U.S. is behind a lot of "socialist" countries when it comes to things like quality of life, health outcomes, levels of political corruption, safety, etc.


Because in the US everyone thinks they can do things themselves better if the government backed off and they did it themselves. It's the very common delusion of people overestimating themselves that is reinforced by the large amounts of propaganda that is our pop culture concerning individualism.
Never Knows Best.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
December 30 2015 19:13 GMT
#54039
On December 31 2015 03:43 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 09:56 cLutZ wrote:
On December 30 2015 09:08 m4ini wrote:
First time i hear the EU is low regulation. Especially the comparison to the FDA is off, since EU law is a lot stricter than rulings of the FDA. GMO etc, or even ridiculously dumb stuff like a ban on "not correctly shaped bananas and cucumbers". And that's not made up, that was a law from 1995 to 2008.

edit: or when it comes to labels, in fact.

Look at most economic freedom of the world indexes. Scandinavia and Canada best the US by a large margin in regulation categories, and the US maintains overall parity with lower tax burdens.


Economic freedom is a nice ideological concept, but what has it turned into? The U.S. is behind a lot of "socialist" countries when it comes to things like quality of life, health outcomes, levels of political corruption, safety, etc.

And yet people continue to give the US tons and tons of money and trade. The US continues to put out exceptional products and services that the world consumes more than any other country or region.

Yea, it's true when you begin measuring specific aspects of life and social performance, the US no longer comes out on top. However, at the end of the day, the US is still top dog economically and militarily, by a solid margin. Saying those other countries beat us in X, Y, and/or Z is the equivalent to saying that your understanding of SC2 should put you in GM league, but because of your APM, you're stuck in Plat. Results matter, and the US has 'em.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
December 30 2015 20:01 GMT
#54040
That fact that people can't even admit that the US is the greatest country thus far in history shows that we can't even agree on fairly obvious truths.

But sure, some country has more gdp per capita than us therefore they're in the same league as us lmao.
rip passion
Prev 1 2700 2701 2702 2703 2704 10093 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
08:00
ISSL: Premier - Final Day
CranKy Ducklings112
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 151
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 2361
Artosis 523
Force[name] 3
League of Legends
Doublelift6836
Counter-Strike
taco 256
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox351
AZ_Axe113
Other Games
summit1g9399
JimRising 759
shahzam532
C9.Mang0288
Day[9].tv255
WinterStarcraft186
B2W.Neo133
Maynarde120
NeuroSwarm90
XaKoH 43
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick703
BasetradeTV170
Counter-Strike
PGL60
[ Show 10 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta23
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Day9tv255
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
7h 29m
WardiTV Invitational
9h 29m
YoungYakov vs Lambo
SHIN vs TBD
Percival vs Shameless
Solar vs TBD
OSC
20h 29m
ByuN vs MaxPax
herO vs Krystianer
Percival vs Shameless
LetaleX vs YoungYakov
Nicoract vs Gerald
GgMaChine vs ArT
PiGosaur Cup
22h 29m
INu's Battles
1d 9h
ByuN vs Classic
3D!Clan Event
1d 13h
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Ultimate Battle
3 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
IPSL
4 days
TerrOr vs IJ_Terran
rasowy vs Hazorath
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
IPSL
5 days
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-09
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
Individual League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 951
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.