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Introvert
United States5093 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On December 31 2015 12:39 Slaughter wrote: The US has had more practice at race relations and immigration but we are still pretty terrible at it. I can't comment how EU countries do at it. To paraphrase Churchill: America is the worst at peacefully assimilating immigrants, except for every other country that has tried from time to time. | ||
{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
You just can't make this stuff up. | ||
KwarK
United States44448 Posts
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IgnE
United States7684 Posts
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Deathstar
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
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Deathstar
9150 Posts
On December 31 2015 12:54 cLutZ wrote: To paraphrase Churchill: America is the worst at peacefully assimilating immigrants, except for every other country that has tried from time to time. Exactly. I dont know if Churchill actually said such a thing but it's true. We are the best destination for immigrants bar none. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On December 31 2015 15:34 Deathstar wrote: Exactly. I dont know if Churchill actually said such a thing but it's true. We are the best destination for immigrants bar none. He said democracy is the worst type of government, except all the other types. Whence, paraphrased. | ||
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sertas
Sweden890 Posts
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
On December 31 2015 16:04 sertas wrote: i heard some weeks ago that trump vs hillary would be 7 percentage units in favor of hillary according to polls and its considered a landslide victory etc. Its a lot i guess but evreone is so absolutely confident trump cant win but those numbers dont look unwinnable to me. Same poll showed Bernie Sanders winning 51-38 which is amazingly landslide | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
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Deathstar
9150 Posts
On December 31 2015 16:00 cLutZ wrote: He said democracy is the worst type of government, except all the other types. Whence, paraphrased. How is that called paraphrasing? You're just making up your own phrase, which is fine, but you're not paraphrasing Churchill. You're straight up changing the meaning of Churchill's original quote. If you're going to paraphrase you keep the original meaning while not maintaining the precise wording. | ||
Souma
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
On December 31 2015 15:34 Deathstar wrote: Exactly. I dont know if Churchill actually said such a thing but it's true. We are the best destination for immigrants bar none. Not that I've ever lived there but Canada seems like a better place. | ||
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Broetchenholer
Germany1970 Posts
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
Majorities both of Republicans (67 percent) and Democrats (55 percent) favor government surveillance of Americans’ Internet activities to watch for suspicious activity that might be connected to terrorism. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!! How many have fallen to the terrorism propaganda? Do you know what will be next? Bathtubs kill more Americans than terrorism! I lose a little faith when reading articles like this. I know some of you post everything on Facebook anyway - so you don't really care. I do care though. There's many of reasons why I fight on these topics so diligently, and why I want you to understand this is a terrible path to travel. Edward Snowden gave up everything - hot wife, $200k a year job, live in Hawaii, play on computers all day - Just to let people know the NSA was spying on Americans on American soil - and I will not let him go down in just a faint memory. You need to stand up for the Bill of Rights and why the states required them to be included before they would join 228 years ago. Your second amendment and fourth amendment rights will be taken right before your eyes - and the sixth will be next. Yes, I am pissed off. I just moved and I already registered to vote. I recommend you do the same. Happy New Year. Source | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
My Dad, who as far as I know has not even voted since the Nixon administration, let alone made any donations to the Republican party, got his own version of this in the mail a while back. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.redstate.com/uploads/2015/12/carson-direct-mail.jpeg) I'm trying to convince him to frame it. The calm yet strong visage of Ben will look down on the homestead for generations to come. | ||
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Rassy
Netherlands2308 Posts
On December 31 2015 12:00 Nyxisto wrote: America's cultural attitude towards immigration is probably something Europe could need a good dose of at the moment. If you could give us that and we give you some social policies that would be a good idea I think. The person above you made a great post btw,just wanted to say. Don't think Europe should adopt Americas cultural attitude towards immigration. America is a country of imigrants and Europe is not. What works for the usa doesn't work for Europe. Immigration and globalization work for the usa but it doesn't work for Europe,it doesn't make the live better for the people living in spain,greece and france. Only the northern countries profit to some degree from the globalization and immigration. I get why some people like immigration, it slowly destroys the national identity and makes room for even more globalization and maybe a unified government one day far in the future. Its great for the rich, but the middle class gets whipped out and the lower class suffers. The odds that you are born in a lower class household are increasing all the time. | ||
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Rassy
Netherlands2308 Posts
On December 31 2015 14:55 IgnE wrote: Pretty sure anyone that's traveled around Europe thinks British people are way worse than Americans. Brittish people are awesome! Have not met many americans in my life but from what I hear from friends who did and who travelled in the states they are all nice, friendly, and easy going people. We in Europe don't think americans are horrible, we just think America as a country is horrible  | ||
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BallinWitStalin
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On December 31 2015 15:34 Deathstar wrote: Exactly. I dont know if Churchill actually said such a thing but it's true. We are the best destination for immigrants bar none. See, here's the thing about all this "hoo-rah"ing about your own country: it doesn't rely on any kind of evaluation of observable facts, or criteria for the evaluation of those facts. What do you mean when you say you're the best destination for immigrants, bar none? Do you mean in terms of immediate economic outcome? What about the economic outcomes of second and third generation children of immigrants? What kind of social programs exist to support those immigrants? What kind of communities for those immigrants exist already? What about issues of violence or perceived persecution? Intergration? There's like a million ways you could attempt to measure your statement. But you don't provide any kind of criteria, or any facts to back those criteria up. Instead you just say "we're da best", like you're at a pep school rally. Functionally, you're not actually saying anything at all. | ||
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