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On January 02 2016 02:45 SoSexy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2016 02:30 Chewbacca. wrote:On January 02 2016 02:23 Nyxisto wrote:
I'm pretty sure that ended with Malcolm X Okay. I realized the usage dropped, but didn't realize that was because people thought it was offensive. So is black the only accepted term at this time? Edit: African American? Just call them as you want, the whole discussion is pointless. People wanted to ban the word 'nigger' from Twain's work, this makes you understand how ridicolous the whole issue has become. I personally would not care at all if I were called white, milky, paleskin or whatever you can think about
White male not being offended when called white.
There's a news story right there. How about we go back to calling gays faggots, i'm sure they don't mind. Vietnamese will be happy to go back to zits, too.
Now if "nigger" or "negro" is a synonym for "you don't get to vote, or even fucking sit in the same bus as me", that might be an entirely different perspective. And a fucking white person (PS: i am white male) doesn't get a vote on what those people perceive as racist.
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On January 02 2016 05:17 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2016 02:45 SoSexy wrote:On January 02 2016 02:30 Chewbacca. wrote:On January 02 2016 02:23 Nyxisto wrote:
I'm pretty sure that ended with Malcolm X Okay. I realized the usage dropped, but didn't realize that was because people thought it was offensive. So is black the only accepted term at this time? Edit: African American? Just call them as you want, the whole discussion is pointless. People wanted to ban the word 'nigger' from Twain's work, this makes you understand how ridicolous the whole issue has become. I personally would not care at all if I were called white, milky, paleskin or whatever you can think about White male not being offended when called white. There's a news story right there. How about we go back to calling gays faggots, i'm sure they don't mind. Vietnamese will be happy to go back to zits, too. Now if "nigger" or "negro" is a synonym for "you don't get to vote, or even fucking sit in the same bus as me", that might be an entirely different perspective. And a fucking white person (PS: i am white male) doesn't get a vote on what those people perceive as racist.
You being a white male means we can discount your opinion on what others can and can't find racist, as per your own opinion. Not sure how you can contradict yourself so hard without noticing, lol.
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On January 02 2016 02:15 Chewbacca. wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2016 01:55 WhiteDog wrote:On January 02 2016 01:45 aksfjh wrote:On January 01 2016 21:02 WhiteDog wrote:On January 01 2016 16:44 Shin_Gouki wrote:Just figure I'd stop by and show this monstrosity here. It's rather interesting how people have been clashing lately. I wonder if it's related to the potential candidates of this election or if this has always been present and I haven't been paying attention. + Show Spoiler + What the hell, this guy needs to be hit back to reason and love. I couldn't stay idle to such racism, but again since it's the US you can't do anything because of the risk of taking a bullet. I think it's important to contextualize the entire thing. He's standing in front of a bunch of people he sees as significantly lesser than himself. Whether or not he sees all black people in that category isn't that important. The important thing is that he labels a bunch of people he knows little-to-nothing about as worthless. Beyond that, it's all just troll-speak he's using to get a rise out of the people around him. He should have gotten "hit back to reason and love" regardless of his "racism." I personally disagree. I don't see any problem with him believing those people are protesting for a bad reason and saying they are "lazy fucking hippies" or something alike, even if it take the form of an insult, it is a judgement I can respect even if I disagreed with or if it's wrong. It is just stupid, that's it. I cannot respect someone saying to another guy he is an ape and a negro or whatever. Is negro considered offensive now? I always thought that negro was the more polite term?
In the video, he called him a nigger, not a negro.
And while negro isn't generally considered a racial slur (certainly not as bad as nigger), it's considered to be less politically correct than African American or black.
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First state raises smoking age to 21
HONOLULU -- Hawaii is raising the legal smoking age to 21 for traditional and electronic cigarettes on Jan. 1, becoming the first state in the nation to do so.
Public health officials are hoping that by making it more difficult for young people to get their hands on cigarettes, they will keep them from developing an unhealthy addiction.
"In Hawaii, about one in four students in high school try their first cigarette each year, and one in three who get hooked will die prematurely," said Lola Irvin, administrator with the chronic disease prevention and health promotion division of the Hawaii Department of Health.
Officials included electronic smoking devices in the law after noticing a spike in the number of students trying electronic cigarettes. The percentage of Hawaii public high school students smoking e-cigarettes quadrupled over four years to 22 percent in 2015, and among middle-schoolers, 12 percent reported using them in 2015, a sixfold increase over four years.
While Hawaii is the first state to raise the smoking age to 21, more than 100 cities and counties have already done so, including New York City. The town of Needham, Massachusetts, raised the smoking age to 21 in 2005, and a decade later the percentage of adults smoking was 50 percent lower than the rest of the state.
Several military bases in Hawaii expressed their support for the move, saying their bases would comply with the state law.
"We see it as a fitness and readiness issue," said Bill Doughty, spokesman for the Navy Region Hawaii. "When we can prevent sailors from smoking or using tobacco, if we can get them to quit, then that improves their fitness and readiness, and it saves them a ton of money too."
But critics say that if a man or woman is old enough to potentially die defending their country, they're old enough to make a decision about smoking. "If you can serve the country, you should be able to have a drink and a cigarette," said Justin Warren, 22, an X-ray technician in the Army.
Taylor Dwyer, 21, also an Army X-ray technician, said smoking is a "way for us to come down after the work day. It's not like a regular work day. It's a lot more stressful, especially for people who are in combat jobs."
Rear Adm. John Fuller, commander of Navy Region Hawaii, countered those arguments in a blog post, saying "If someone is young enough to fight for their country, they should be free from addiction to a deadly drug."
As the state begins enforcing the law, the first three months of the year will be dedicated to educating the public, so warnings will be handed out instead of fines, officials said.
After that, young people caught smoking will be fined $10 for the first offense and $50 or community service for any further offenses. Retailers caught selling cigarettes to people under 21 can be fined $500 for the first offense and up to $2,000 for later offenses.
The Health Department has distributed about 4,000 signs to 650 vendors, said Lila Johnson, public health educator at the agency. To reach tourists, officials have been meeting with representatives from the tourism industry, business and hotels, and officials plan to produce signs in different languages, she said.
"People are going to be coming in and out of our state that aren't aware of it," Johnson said. "It's a matter of education. We hope to see a lot more states picking it up so we're not the only one."
Sabrina Olaes, 18, said she started organizing events to educate her classmates about the dangers of smoking after getting frustrated finding herself surrounded by fumes from electronic cigarettes in the girl's bathroom at her school.
She called the tobacco industry's marketing practices deceptive, and said some of the flavors of electronic cigarettes are targeted at young people. But her smoking friends didn't always want to hear what she had to say.
"It's not easy conveying your opinions to people who may not agree with you, and I've definitely made a lot of enemies, but also a lot of allies," Olaes said. "Even though you don't get them to quit right away, you do get them to second-guess their choices."
~ http://www.cbsnews.com/news/first-state-raises-smoking-age-to-21/
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On January 01 2016 17:28 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2016 16:44 Shin_Gouki wrote:Just figure I'd stop by and show this monstrosity here. It's rather interesting how people have been clashing lately. I wonder if it's related to the potential candidates of this election or if this has always been present and I haven't been paying attention. + Show Spoiler +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrY1XltlRWg You haven't been paying attention. I've seen worse from "good" cops. Though Trump is certainly making people feel more comfortable expressing it in public (or on video where it ends up on youtube). The comment section of any right leaning news source story with a non-republican black person in it is a good sample of the folks were talking about. Pretty much anywhere white people interact with black people on the internet you can find the same racist gibberish. In RL most racists just avoid black folks (notice he said he was ~the 10th black person he had seen in his whole life) because most of them don't have the guts to say that shit to anyone's face (unless they are much smaller than the bully). You notice even this guy couldn't say it like he does when he's typing out that kind of hate on the internet. He sounded like a child swearing in front of his parents for the first time, like any moment he would get his ass stomped like the cowardly shitbag he is. At least he'll have lots of time to think about it since he won't be going back to work any time soon.
I know it's been present for a while, but this is kind of unreal to me. Half the time, I want to vote for trump because I know he's causing the bravery. Being on the internet and saying dumb shit is one thing. Going to a group of protesters, calling them names like a 7 year old and attempting at being racist is another. he looks UNCOMFORTABLE while doing it personally. He's stumbling, looking back and forth and shrugging his shoulders.
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On January 02 2016 05:56 killa_robot wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2016 05:17 m4ini wrote:On January 02 2016 02:45 SoSexy wrote:On January 02 2016 02:30 Chewbacca. wrote:On January 02 2016 02:23 Nyxisto wrote:
I'm pretty sure that ended with Malcolm X Okay. I realized the usage dropped, but didn't realize that was because people thought it was offensive. So is black the only accepted term at this time? Edit: African American? Just call them as you want, the whole discussion is pointless. People wanted to ban the word 'nigger' from Twain's work, this makes you understand how ridicolous the whole issue has become. I personally would not care at all if I were called white, milky, paleskin or whatever you can think about White male not being offended when called white. There's a news story right there. How about we go back to calling gays faggots, i'm sure they don't mind. Vietnamese will be happy to go back to zits, too. Now if "nigger" or "negro" is a synonym for "you don't get to vote, or even fucking sit in the same bus as me", that might be an entirely different perspective. And a fucking white person (PS: i am white male) doesn't get a vote on what those people perceive as racist. You being a white male means we can discount your opinion on what others can and can't find racist, as per your own opinion. Not sure how you can contradict yourself so hard without noticing, lol.
But he has not stated anywhere that his opinion matters on the subject, has he?
The whole thing basicly reads "here's what I think [...] but ultimately that's a thing where you have to listen to those people and ignore what people like me say, including my own opinion"
That's not a contradiction, that's giving your own opinion while acknowledging that it should have no weight, but you felt like typing it out because we're on a forum that discusses these kinds of things.
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Personally I prefer black, I'm no more connected with Africa than all the white folks here courtesy of the genocide of "African American" culture in the US (slavery and such).
M4ini is right though, it's not contradictory either as he is passing on a common sentiment among black folks and POC in general.
Pretty much everyone here needs more black people in their lives if they are going to opine on this type of stuff. I can't believe we're still not even sure whether "negro" is an offensive term or not...(it is , unless you're native Spanish speaker)
Hell pretty sure this forum had to argue whether "Nigger" was racist because some people think being an idiot is a get out of racism free card.
Jonny didn't even get a warning when he was clearly trying to insinuate I was a "monkey" either, so I can't really be surprised by it around here any more.
Anyway since I mentioned "good" cops recently...
Texas ‘Cop of the Year’ exposed as member of Mexico’s most dangerous cartel
Caught on video illegally selling assault rifles and sensitive information to undercover informants, a former officer of the year has also been accused of secretly working for Los Zetas cartel in a drug trafficking conspiracy in operation since 2006.
In April, videos surfaced of Juarez illegally selling firearms and sensitive information to government informants posing as major drug traffickers. In March 2011, a hidden camera recorded Juarez selling assault rifles to an informant. A second video recorded in July 2011 revealed Juarez running license plates through the Houston Police Department (HPD) database for an undercover informant who told the cop that the plate numbers belonged to people who owed him $800,000 in drug money.
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On January 02 2016 02:49 Nyxisto wrote:
Whether we should be allowed to change art is a very different discussion than whether you should respect other people and social norms. If you're older than fifteen the latter is usually a good idea.
Are you saying that removing the word 'nigger' from Twain's work irrevocably changes its meaning? How could that possibly work. I would think his books were written about something sophisticated enough that the usage of such a word would not meaningfully affect his message.
If people are allowed to use that term in an artistic context, in which it will be read by tens of millions of people, how is that significantly different from allowing people to use the term 'endearingly' or as a joke that shouldn't be taken seriously? Are artists allowed to insult black people (even if unintentionally), but not the rest of the population? It seems like a double standard.
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On January 02 2016 06:23 radscorpion9 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2016 02:49 Nyxisto wrote:
Whether we should be allowed to change art is a very different discussion than whether you should respect other people and social norms. If you're older than fifteen the latter is usually a good idea. Are you saying that removing the word 'nigger' from Twain's work irrevocably changes its meaning? How could that possibly work. I would think his books were written about something sophisticated enough that the usage of such a word would not meaningfully affect his message. If people are allowed to use that term in an artistic context, in which it will be read by tens of millions of people, how is that significantly different from allowing people to use the term 'endearingly' or as a joke that shouldn't be taken seriously? Are artists allowed to insult black people (even if unintentionally), but not the rest of the population? It seems like a double standard.
It would significantly (irrevocably is not really the applicable word) change the meaning, because much of the significance of Huck Finn lies in its parodic depiction of a world we cannot visit, and indeed even at that time of a culture much of America was disconnected from.
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On January 02 2016 06:23 radscorpion9 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2016 02:49 Nyxisto wrote:
Whether we should be allowed to change art is a very different discussion than whether you should respect other people and social norms. If you're older than fifteen the latter is usually a good idea. Are you saying that removing the word 'nigger' from Twain's work irrevocably changes its meaning? How could that possibly work. I would think his books were written about something sophisticated enough that the usage of such a word would not meaningfully affect his message. If people are allowed to use that term in an artistic context, in which it will be read by tens of millions of people, how is that significantly different from allowing people to use the term 'endearingly' or as a joke that shouldn't be taken seriously? Are artists allowed to insult black people (even if unintentionally), but not the rest of the population? It seems like a double standard.
Yes, obviously the context changes what a word signifies. If someone uses "negro" in a historical context and refers to some group that carried that name or cites someone from the 60's then that's obviously different from using that word to address someone in the present. Obviously that's applies to artists as well. (except if the artist just uses art as an excuse to insult people)
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On January 02 2016 06:21 GreenHorizons wrote:
Pretty much everyone here needs more black people in their lives if they are going to opine on this type of stuff. I can't believe we're still not even sure whether "negro" is an offensive term or not...(it is , unless you're native Spanish speaker)
Most people here have probably never actually talked to a black man as an actual acquaintance so its not all that surprising.
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On January 02 2016 06:21 GreenHorizons wrote:Personally I prefer black, I'm no more connected with Africa than all the white folks here courtesy of the genocide of "African American" culture in the US (slavery and such). M4ini is right though, it's not contradictory either as he is passing on a common sentiment among black folks and POC in general. Pretty much everyone here needs more black people in their lives if they are going to opine on this type of stuff. I can't believe we're still not even sure whether "negro" is an offensive term or not...(it is , unless you're native Spanish speaker) Hell pretty sure this forum had to argue whether "Nigger" was racist because some people think being an idiot is a get out of racism free card. Jonny didn't even get a warning when he was clearly trying to insinuate I was a "monkey" either, so I can't really be surprised by it around here any more. Anyway since I mentioned "good" cops recently... Show nested quote +Texas ‘Cop of the Year’ exposed as member of Mexico’s most dangerous cartel
Caught on video illegally selling assault rifles and sensitive information to undercover informants, a former officer of the year has also been accused of secretly working for Los Zetas cartel in a drug trafficking conspiracy in operation since 2006.
In April, videos surfaced of Juarez illegally selling firearms and sensitive information to government informants posing as major drug traffickers. In March 2011, a hidden camera recorded Juarez selling assault rifles to an informant. A second video recorded in July 2011 revealed Juarez running license plates through the Houston Police Department (HPD) database for an undercover informant who told the cop that the plate numbers belonged to people who owed him $800,000 in drug money. Source
This is a different scenario. This cop (ethnic Mexican) is in league with Mexican cartels, which has to do with Mexico's drug war.
The whole result of the war on drugs is unfortunate. Marijuana legalization seems to already having impacts for marijuana farmers, in the form of falling profits. Marijuana will probably increase in the US, but that's not the concern.
http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-mexico-marijuana-20151230-story.html
Legalization of drugs such as heroin and amphetamines is unpalatable for me. I hope eventual marijuana legalization will have big enough of an impact to bring this drug war under control.
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Which is why with the legalization of marijuana funding should be increased for prevention programs, and withdrawal treatment programs. Could even be a watershed moment for the end of the Drug War and other substances as Colorado saw with legalization of marijuana the overdoses of prescription drugs fall as a result.
ANyways..
Communities in southern Illinois and Missouri prepared for all-time high-water records over the weekend as widespread flooding that has already killed 22 in the Midwest continued south.
On Friday, water began receding in the St. Louis area — enough to allow the reopening of several major roadways. Meanwhile, downstream communities braced for possible flooding over the weekend.
An all-time high-water mark was expected in southeast Missouri's Cape Girardeau, with the rising water damaging homes, threatening a power substation, and forcing a neighboring small town to become an island — at least for a few days.
The National Weather Service said Friday it expected the Mississippi River at Cape Girardeau to top out on Sunday at a foot-and-a-half above the 1993 record. The community of nearly 40,000 residents is mostly protected by a flood wall, but a couple of dozen homes have been damaged.
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On January 02 2016 07:53 Deathstar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2016 06:21 GreenHorizons wrote:Personally I prefer black, I'm no more connected with Africa than all the white folks here courtesy of the genocide of "African American" culture in the US (slavery and such). M4ini is right though, it's not contradictory either as he is passing on a common sentiment among black folks and POC in general. Pretty much everyone here needs more black people in their lives if they are going to opine on this type of stuff. I can't believe we're still not even sure whether "negro" is an offensive term or not...(it is , unless you're native Spanish speaker) Hell pretty sure this forum had to argue whether "Nigger" was racist because some people think being an idiot is a get out of racism free card. Jonny didn't even get a warning when he was clearly trying to insinuate I was a "monkey" either, so I can't really be surprised by it around here any more. Anyway since I mentioned "good" cops recently... Texas ‘Cop of the Year’ exposed as member of Mexico’s most dangerous cartel
Caught on video illegally selling assault rifles and sensitive information to undercover informants, a former officer of the year has also been accused of secretly working for Los Zetas cartel in a drug trafficking conspiracy in operation since 2006.
In April, videos surfaced of Juarez illegally selling firearms and sensitive information to government informants posing as major drug traffickers. In March 2011, a hidden camera recorded Juarez selling assault rifles to an informant. A second video recorded in July 2011 revealed Juarez running license plates through the Houston Police Department (HPD) database for an undercover informant who told the cop that the plate numbers belonged to people who owed him $800,000 in drug money. Source This is a different scenario. This cop (ethnic Mexican) is in league with Mexican cartels, which has to do with Mexico's drug war. The whole result of the war on drugs is unfortunate. Marijuana legalization seems to already having impacts for marijuana farmers, in the form of falling profits. Marijuana will probably increase in the US, but that's not the concern. http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-mexico-marijuana-20151230-story.htmlLegalization of drugs such as heroin and amphetamines is unpalatable for me. I hope eventual marijuana legalization will have big enough of an impact to bring this drug war under control.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, the point wasn't an ethnic one, it was about how "good" cops or in this case "officer of the year" can be some of the worst cops on the force. Police departments across the country are so corrupt it's ridiculous that everyone isn't demanding they get massively reformed.
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CHICAGO, Jan 1 (Reuters) - As the United States marks more than six years without an increase in the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour, 14 states and several cities are moving forward with their own increases, with most set to start taking effect on Friday.
California and Massachusetts are highest among the states, both increasing from $9 to $10 an hour, according to an analysis by the National Conference of State Legislatures. At the low end is Arkansas, where the minimum wage is increasing from $7.50 to $8. The smallest increase, a nickel, comes in South Dakota, where the hourly minimum is now $8.55.
The increases come in the wake of a series of "living wage" protests across the country, including a November campaign in which thousands of protesters in 270 cities marched in support of a $15-an-hour minimum wage and union rights for fast food workers. Food service workers make up the largest group of minimum-wage earners, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
With Friday's increases, the new average minimum wage across the 14 affected states rises from $8.50 an hour to just over $9.
Several cities are going even higher. Seattle is setting a sliding hourly minimum between $10.50 and $13 on Jan. 1, and Los Angeles and San Francisco are enacting similar increases in July, en route to $15 an hour phased in over six years.
Backers say a higher minimum wage helps combat poverty, but opponents worry about the potential impact on employment and company profits.
In 2014, a Democratic-backed congressional proposal to increase the federal minimum wage for the first time since 2009 to $10.10 stalled, as have subsequent efforts by President Barack Obama. More recent proposals by some lawmakers call for a federal minimum wage of up to $15 an hour.
Alan Krueger, an economics professor at Princeton University and former chairman of Obama's Council of Economic Advisers, said a federal minimum wage of up to $12 an hour, phased in over five years or so, "would not have a noticeable effect on employment."
Some employers may cut jobs in response to a minimum-wage increase, Krueger said, while others may find hikes allow them to fill job vacancies and reduce turnover, lifting employment but lowering profits.
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On January 02 2016 08:33 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2016 07:53 Deathstar wrote:On January 02 2016 06:21 GreenHorizons wrote:Personally I prefer black, I'm no more connected with Africa than all the white folks here courtesy of the genocide of "African American" culture in the US (slavery and such). M4ini is right though, it's not contradictory either as he is passing on a common sentiment among black folks and POC in general. Pretty much everyone here needs more black people in their lives if they are going to opine on this type of stuff. I can't believe we're still not even sure whether "negro" is an offensive term or not...(it is , unless you're native Spanish speaker) Hell pretty sure this forum had to argue whether "Nigger" was racist because some people think being an idiot is a get out of racism free card. Jonny didn't even get a warning when he was clearly trying to insinuate I was a "monkey" either, so I can't really be surprised by it around here any more. Anyway since I mentioned "good" cops recently... Texas ‘Cop of the Year’ exposed as member of Mexico’s most dangerous cartel
Caught on video illegally selling assault rifles and sensitive information to undercover informants, a former officer of the year has also been accused of secretly working for Los Zetas cartel in a drug trafficking conspiracy in operation since 2006.
In April, videos surfaced of Juarez illegally selling firearms and sensitive information to government informants posing as major drug traffickers. In March 2011, a hidden camera recorded Juarez selling assault rifles to an informant. A second video recorded in July 2011 revealed Juarez running license plates through the Houston Police Department (HPD) database for an undercover informant who told the cop that the plate numbers belonged to people who owed him $800,000 in drug money. Source This is a different scenario. This cop (ethnic Mexican) is in league with Mexican cartels, which has to do with Mexico's drug war. The whole result of the war on drugs is unfortunate. Marijuana legalization seems to already having impacts for marijuana farmers, in the form of falling profits. Marijuana will probably increase in the US, but that's not the concern. http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-mexico-marijuana-20151230-story.htmlLegalization of drugs such as heroin and amphetamines is unpalatable for me. I hope eventual marijuana legalization will have big enough of an impact to bring this drug war under control. Sorry if I wasn't clear, the point wasn't an ethnic one, it was about how "good" cops or in this case "officer of the year" can be some of the worst cops on the force. Police departments across the country are so corrupt it's ridiculous that everyone isn't demanding they get massively reformed.
GH you need to relax your rhetoric lol. There are over 12,000 local police departments and over 700,000 police officers. This country would be in chaos if bad cops were rampant. Law enforcement is a human endeavor and human endeavors are flawed. If you have a personal problem you are better off being an activist in your local district. However most people will go through their lives and will never have an issue with the police aside from tickets.
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On January 02 2016 06:20 Shin_Gouki wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2016 17:28 GreenHorizons wrote:On January 01 2016 16:44 Shin_Gouki wrote:Just figure I'd stop by and show this monstrosity here. It's rather interesting how people have been clashing lately. I wonder if it's related to the potential candidates of this election or if this has always been present and I haven't been paying attention. + Show Spoiler +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrY1XltlRWg You haven't been paying attention. I've seen worse from "good" cops. Though Trump is certainly making people feel more comfortable expressing it in public (or on video where it ends up on youtube). The comment section of any right leaning news source story with a non-republican black person in it is a good sample of the folks were talking about. Pretty much anywhere white people interact with black people on the internet you can find the same racist gibberish. In RL most racists just avoid black folks (notice he said he was ~the 10th black person he had seen in his whole life) because most of them don't have the guts to say that shit to anyone's face (unless they are much smaller than the bully). You notice even this guy couldn't say it like he does when he's typing out that kind of hate on the internet. He sounded like a child swearing in front of his parents for the first time, like any moment he would get his ass stomped like the cowardly shitbag he is. At least he'll have lots of time to think about it since he won't be going back to work any time soon. I know it's been present for a while, but this is kind of unreal to me. Half the time, I want to vote for trump because I know he's causing the bravery. Being on the internet and saying dumb shit is one thing. Going to a group of protesters, calling them names like a 7 year old and attempting at being racist is another. he looks UNCOMFORTABLE while doing it personally. He's stumbling, looking back and forth and shrugging his shoulders.
The discomfort evident on his face and in his behavior doesn't really reflect on his character as some of the comments made here seem to intimate. They, at least, do not reflect poorly. He is no more cowardly, feckless, or childishly impudent than the protesters, whose highest expressions of outrage were a few subdued, non-verbal, exclamations. Both sides were amped up on adrenaline at the prospect of physical violence, and behaved like one would expect law-abiding, docile, citizens in a civilized country where overt physical violence is relegated to the inner city and other margins.
In other words, a man who could appear composed and self-assured performing before a camera like that probably has psychopathic tendencies, and would truly be frightening.
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On January 02 2016 11:17 Deathstar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2016 08:33 GreenHorizons wrote:On January 02 2016 07:53 Deathstar wrote:On January 02 2016 06:21 GreenHorizons wrote:Personally I prefer black, I'm no more connected with Africa than all the white folks here courtesy of the genocide of "African American" culture in the US (slavery and such). M4ini is right though, it's not contradictory either as he is passing on a common sentiment among black folks and POC in general. Pretty much everyone here needs more black people in their lives if they are going to opine on this type of stuff. I can't believe we're still not even sure whether "negro" is an offensive term or not...(it is , unless you're native Spanish speaker) Hell pretty sure this forum had to argue whether "Nigger" was racist because some people think being an idiot is a get out of racism free card. Jonny didn't even get a warning when he was clearly trying to insinuate I was a "monkey" either, so I can't really be surprised by it around here any more. Anyway since I mentioned "good" cops recently... Texas ‘Cop of the Year’ exposed as member of Mexico’s most dangerous cartel
Caught on video illegally selling assault rifles and sensitive information to undercover informants, a former officer of the year has also been accused of secretly working for Los Zetas cartel in a drug trafficking conspiracy in operation since 2006.
In April, videos surfaced of Juarez illegally selling firearms and sensitive information to government informants posing as major drug traffickers. In March 2011, a hidden camera recorded Juarez selling assault rifles to an informant. A second video recorded in July 2011 revealed Juarez running license plates through the Houston Police Department (HPD) database for an undercover informant who told the cop that the plate numbers belonged to people who owed him $800,000 in drug money. Source This is a different scenario. This cop (ethnic Mexican) is in league with Mexican cartels, which has to do with Mexico's drug war. The whole result of the war on drugs is unfortunate. Marijuana legalization seems to already having impacts for marijuana farmers, in the form of falling profits. Marijuana will probably increase in the US, but that's not the concern. http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-mexico-marijuana-20151230-story.htmlLegalization of drugs such as heroin and amphetamines is unpalatable for me. I hope eventual marijuana legalization will have big enough of an impact to bring this drug war under control. Sorry if I wasn't clear, the point wasn't an ethnic one, it was about how "good" cops or in this case "officer of the year" can be some of the worst cops on the force. Police departments across the country are so corrupt it's ridiculous that everyone isn't demanding they get massively reformed. GH you need to relax your rhetoric lol. There are over 12,000 local police departments and over 700,000 police officers. This country would be in chaos if bad cops were rampant. Law enforcement is a human endeavor and human endeavors are flawed. If you have a personal problem you are better off being an activist in your local district. However most people will go through their lives and will never have an issue with the police aside from tickets.
Not really...
I don't know what you think rampant means but we simply disagree there. You can't honestly chalk the corruption and trampling of civil and constitutional rights as flaws of human endeavors, simply because most white people will go through life unaffected. As we have seen recently as a result of various protests, whether folks like it or not, people can't just ignore it and not get interrupted.
over 21 departments are under investigation, they are consistently being found to be violating people's rights especially POC. They aren't just small municipal departments either, we're talking about the biggest departments in the country that set precedents for the entire country.
Doesn't stop at the PD either. The whole system needs to be reviewed and reworked, anything less is a travesty.
http://www.justice.gov/crt/special-litigation-section-cases-and-matters0#police
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On January 02 2016 06:20 Shin_Gouki wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2016 17:28 GreenHorizons wrote:On January 01 2016 16:44 Shin_Gouki wrote:Just figure I'd stop by and show this monstrosity here. It's rather interesting how people have been clashing lately. I wonder if it's related to the potential candidates of this election or if this has always been present and I haven't been paying attention. + Show Spoiler +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrY1XltlRWg You haven't been paying attention. I've seen worse from "good" cops. Though Trump is certainly making people feel more comfortable expressing it in public (or on video where it ends up on youtube). The comment section of any right leaning news source story with a non-republican black person in it is a good sample of the folks were talking about. Pretty much anywhere white people interact with black people on the internet you can find the same racist gibberish. In RL most racists just avoid black folks (notice he said he was ~the 10th black person he had seen in his whole life) because most of them don't have the guts to say that shit to anyone's face (unless they are much smaller than the bully). You notice even this guy couldn't say it like he does when he's typing out that kind of hate on the internet. He sounded like a child swearing in front of his parents for the first time, like any moment he would get his ass stomped like the cowardly shitbag he is. At least he'll have lots of time to think about it since he won't be going back to work any time soon. I know it's been present for a while, but this is kind of unreal to me. Half the time, I want to vote for trump because I know he's causing the bravery. Being on the internet and saying dumb shit is one thing. Going to a group of protesters, calling them names like a 7 year old and attempting at being racist is another. he looks UNCOMFORTABLE while doing it personally. He's stumbling, looking back and forth and shrugging his shoulders.
I would be uncomfortable too- the preconceived narrative was strong with that one. Protestors as 'lazy bums, who've probably never worked a day in their life' wrings a little hollow when you are addressing 40 year olds and grandparents rather than college students. They didn't bother correcting him, but the Boomers seemed more bemused to get 'what have you done with your life' talk from a Millennial. I think you grabbed the lines from the wrong skit, kid.
Ugh. Ugly, ugly words and attitude.
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