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Simberto
Germany11735 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22072 Posts
On January 02 2016 11:17 Deathstar wrote: GH you need to relax your rhetoric lol. There are over 12,000 local police departments and over 700,000 police officers. This country would be in chaos if bad cops were rampant. Law enforcement is a human endeavor and human endeavors are flawed. If you have a personal problem you are better off being an activist in your local district. However most people will go through their lives and will never have an issue with the police aside from tickets. While I agree that GH can come on to hard at times I have to agree with him that the corruption in the US police is far beyond sporadic. Does that mean all cops are corrupt? ofcourse not but recent times show that there is a systematic problem with police in the US. Major cities and locations across the country are regularly in the news for unacceptable acts by their officers (god knows how much never gets reported on), police unions are (for the most part) standing behind these bad cops and for some reason the government does not even collect data required to have a picture of the situation. The reason the country is not in chaos over this is because most of you don't even know that it can be different, that cops don't have to shoot first and not bother with questions. Your right on one thing tho, most people will never have bad issues with police in their life. Most of those people are also white and not poor. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
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Rassy
Netherlands2308 Posts
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Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
Pretty much everyone here needs more black people in their lives if they are going to opine on this type of stuff. Some people need more John Browns in their life tbh. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On January 02 2016 11:52 GreenHorizons wrote: Not really... I don't know what you think rampant means but we simply disagree there. You can't honestly chalk the corruption and trampling of civil and constitutional rights as flaws of human endeavors, simply because most white people will go through life unaffected. As we have seen recently as a result of various protests, whether folks like it or not, people can't just ignore it and not get interrupted. over 21 departments are under investigation, they are consistently being found to be violating people's rights especially POC. They aren't just small municipal departments either, we're talking about the biggest departments in the country that set precedents for the entire country. Doesn't stop at the PD either. The whole system needs to be reviewed and reworked, anything less is a travesty. http://www.justice.gov/crt/special-litigation-section-cases-and-matters0#police to jump onto GH's posts, gonna link this not particularly race related but our policing system is incredibly flawed in many ways they have way too much power and no independent oversight http://www.activistpost.com/2015/11/american-cops-now-steal-more-property-than-all-us-burglars-combined.html obviously the headline is a loaded statement, but the statistics are real and disturbing | ||
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zf
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 03 2016 04:10 zf wrote: Somewhat outdated. Congress defunded DOJ's asset forfeiture program and DOJ suspended federal-local asset sharing last month. Yea, after tireless pressuring by Booker and Paul. They simply did it because if they hadn't those two would have gotten something into a spending bill and the whole jig would be up. Hell Congress acutally has 14th Amendment power to raise the burden of proof in all forfeiture hearing. Those were nearly 100% self preservation moves | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23609 Posts
Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders raised more than $33 million in the final three months of last year, nearly matching front-runner Hillary Clinton’s fundraising haul over the same period, the Vermont senator’s campaign said Saturday. Mr. Sanders, who entered the race in May as a long-shot candidate for the party nomination, collected a total of $73 million in 2015, his campaign said. With less than one month before the Iowa caucuses, he has more than $28 million in the bank. Mrs. Clinton’s campaign said Friday she had raised $37 million in the fourth quarter of 2015, pushing her total for the year to $112 million. She ended 2015 with $38 million in the bank. Though Mrs. Clinton won the quarterly race for campaign dollars, the Sanders campaign voiced optimism about its future fundraising prospects. More than one million people donated to the Sanders campaign, giving an average of about $27, the campaign said. Of these donors, a fraction gave the maximum contribution of $2,700, meaning Mr. Sanders can go back to virtually all of his supporters and ask for more money as the primary season plays out. “This people-powered campaign is revolutionizing American politics,” Jeff Weaver, the Sanders campaign manager, said in a prepared statement. Supporters have made more than 2.5 million separate donations to his campaign, breaking a record that President Barack Obama set at a comparable point in the 2012 presidential election, the Sanders campaign said. Source Seems weird that a guy with "no chance" would be breaking fundraising records set by the last guy who didn't have a chance against Hillary or Romney. Also when it comes to spending Bernie has pulled in ~$50 million less but only has $10 million less cash on hand. So Hillary has been burning money meanwhile she's been falling under 50% | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45246 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 03 2016 07:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Out of curiosity, what happens to all those campaign contributions (the millions of dollars) if a candidate drops out of the race without using all of it on the campaign? Does it just roll into his bank account? One can roll it into a different campaign (I.e. Senate to House race) or donate to a charity. | ||
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Deathstar
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On January 02 2016 20:11 Gorsameth wrote: While I agree that GH can come on to hard at times I have to agree with him that the corruption in the US police is far beyond sporadic. Does that mean all cops are corrupt? ofcourse not but recent times show that there is a systematic problem with police in the US. Major cities and locations across the country are regularly in the news for unacceptable acts by their officers (god knows how much never gets reported on), police unions are (for the most part) standing behind these bad cops and for some reason the government does not even collect data required to have a picture of the situation. The reason the country is not in chaos over this is because most of you don't even know that it can be different, that cops don't have to shoot first and not bother with questions. Your right on one thing tho, most people will never have bad issues with police in their life. Most of those people are also white and not poor. Also his comment about institutionalized corruptions resulting in "choas" is a rather stupid argument, Corruption in of itself can only thrive most when things are as stable as possible for it to feed off. So no corrupt cops doesnt equal a chaotic country. Nor do corrupt politicians, bureaucrats, civil servants or what have you. The real world isnt Gotham City... | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
The wastewater treatment plant in Grand Junction, Colo., takes in 8 million gallons of raw sewage — what's flushed down the toilet and sinks. Processing this sewage produces a lot of methane, which the plant used to just burn off into the air. The process was "not good for the environment and a waste of a wonderful resource," says Dan Tonello, manager of the Persigo Wastewater Treatment Plant. Now, using more infrastructure, the facility refines the methane further to produce natural gas chemically identical to what's drilled from underground. Grand Junction has been replacing an aging fleet of garbage trucks and buses with natural gas vehicles, fueled mostly by the human-sourced gas from the treatment plant. Tonello says Grand Junction is the first city in the nation to do that. "We're looking at hundreds of thousands of dollars a year being saved by implementing this process," he says. Europe has been extracting natural gas from organic waste for about a decade, and now it's starting to pick up in the U.S. Source | ||
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Saryph
United States1955 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On January 03 2016 12:00 Saryph wrote: Anyone see this story that armed terrorists have taken over and are occupying a federal government building in Oregon? You have to hope the FBI or whichever organization is appropriate will take action to arrest these terrorists and resolve the situation. www.oregonlive.com Hitting the airwaves now it seems... | ||
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Saryph
United States1955 Posts
When people are posting these sorts of videos, you need to be careful, and I hope the local/federal law enforcement will be. This guy doesn't sound...sane. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45246 Posts
On January 03 2016 12:10 oneofthem wrote: scalia sounding like ben carson. brilliant my ass The fact that he doesn't actually understand the First Amendment, yet he's a SCJ... x.x | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45246 Posts
On January 03 2016 12:18 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Hitting the airwaves now it seems... https://twitter.com/DannyCouch3/status/683481183246745600 Wasn't Cliven Bundy that guy that Fox News loved for a few days because he was a rancher standing up to the government or something, but then conservatives did a 180 when he started being super racist and shitty? | ||
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