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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 02:42:27
January 10 2015 02:42 GMT
#31361
On January 10 2015 11:31 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 11:23 Sub40APM wrote:
On January 10 2015 09:18 Chewbacca. wrote:
Wonder how much shit like that occurs and the FBI or whomever stops it and we just hear nothing about it.

If the terrorists names are Ahmed and Muhammed, we will hear about it. If its Bubba we will not. Because white people arent terrorists, they are just individual mentally insane people. Unlike those monolithic black-Muslim blocks.


Except the people in the story are white, and none of them are named Ahmed.

What am I missing?

This would be on Fox News, not in the Rome (Georgia) News Tribune in my scenario.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23663 Posts
January 10 2015 02:54 GMT
#31362
On January 10 2015 11:15 Wolfstan wrote:
Here's a better source GH, more factual, less partisan.

Show nested quote +
The GOP-controlled House of Representatives has voted 266-153 to approve the Keystone XL pipeline despite a presidential veto threat, just hours after Nebraska's Supreme Court, in a split decision, cleared the way for the controversial project.

The Senate, which also has a Republican majority, is considering similar legislation.
...
The White House says President Obama will veto any congressional legislation that approves the pipeline. He has previously said he will let the process — including the one in Nebraska's courts — play out before his decision. And the White House reiterated that position today.
...
But after today's court decision, Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, chairwoman of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, said the decision "wipes out President Obama's last excuse."

"Regardless of whatever new excuse he may come up with, Congress is moving forward," she said in a statement.

The comments were echoed by the American Petroleum Institute, which said Obama "has no more excuses to delay or deny the Keystone XL pipeline."

One of the groups in the coalition opposing today's court decision, Bold Nebraska, said the issue is now in Obama's hands.

"This is a bad day for property rights in Nebraska," the group said in a statement. "Private, foreign corporations now know they can buy their way through our state."


Source


I didn't post it as information about the pipeline? The point was to show that the bipartisan thing isn't going to happen any time soon. Also that the rhetoric is only going to get turned up from here.

On January 10 2015 11:31 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 11:23 Sub40APM wrote:
On January 10 2015 09:18 Chewbacca. wrote:
Wonder how much shit like that occurs and the FBI or whomever stops it and we just hear nothing about it.

If the terrorists names are Ahmed and Muhammed, we will hear about it. If its Bubba we will not. Because white people arent terrorists, they are just individual mentally insane people. Unlike those monolithic black-Muslim blocks.


Except the people in the story are white, and none of them are named Ahmed.

What am I missing?


That's why the link is for a local news site and not plastered all over Fox News.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4908 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 03:04:45
January 10 2015 03:03 GMT
#31363
On January 10 2015 11:31 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 11:23 Sub40APM wrote:
On January 10 2015 09:18 Chewbacca. wrote:
Wonder how much shit like that occurs and the FBI or whomever stops it and we just hear nothing about it.

If the terrorists names are Ahmed and Muhammed, we will hear about it. If its Bubba we will not. Because white people arent terrorists, they are just individual mentally insane people. Unlike those monolithic black-Muslim blocks.


Except the people in the story are white, and none of them are named Ahmed.

What am I missing?


That's why the link is for a local news site and not plastered all over Fox News.



I did a google search, and it was only on local sources. It seems to me more likely that no one reported it because nothing had actually happened yet, idk.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23663 Posts
January 10 2015 03:51 GMT
#31364
On January 10 2015 12:03 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 11:31 Introvert wrote:
On January 10 2015 11:23 Sub40APM wrote:
On January 10 2015 09:18 Chewbacca. wrote:
Wonder how much shit like that occurs and the FBI or whomever stops it and we just hear nothing about it.

If the terrorists names are Ahmed and Muhammed, we will hear about it. If its Bubba we will not. Because white people arent terrorists, they are just individual mentally insane people. Unlike those monolithic black-Muslim blocks.


Except the people in the story are white, and none of them are named Ahmed.

What am I missing?


Show nested quote +
That's why the link is for a local news site and not plastered all over Fox News.



I did a google search, and it was only on local sources. It seems to me more likely that no one reported it because nothing had actually happened yet, idk.


Well I don't think that surprises anyone?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/28/massachusetts-man-arrested-in-plot-to-destroy-pentagon-us-capitol/
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
January 10 2015 03:51 GMT
#31365
On January 10 2015 09:03 GreenHorizons wrote:
In terrorism news in this country:

Show nested quote +
Peace, Cannon and Williamson — all members of a militia in Georgia — participated in online chat discussions between Jan. 23 and Feb. 15, 2014, that were monitored by the FBI.

During the conversations online, they discussed using guerilla war tactics and planned to launch attacks against a metro Atlanta police station and several government agencies in February 2014.

The three men attempted to “recruit other individuals to join them and to carry out similar operations in those individuals’ home states.”

Peace allegedly told other militia members to choose targets including “road blocks, TSA checkpoints, sheriffs/police conducting operations outside the Constitution” as well as to participate in the “removal of government people who support extra-Constitutional activities.”

In February 2014, the men traveled from Rome to Tennessee for a meeting with an undercover FBI source about getting several explosive devices, including a thermite-mix charge and a dozen pipe bombs constructed for “maximum fragmentation.”
Phone conversations with an informant recorded Peace requesting explosives and telling the informant the devices were a “key element” to their plan.


Source

If they would of been actually able to obtain the explosives it could of been the biggest and deadliest terror attack and attack on cops on the US mainland since 9/11

Inspiration comes in many forms.


Jokes on you, all chat rooms are being monitored.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4908 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 04:20:33
January 10 2015 04:19 GMT
#31366
On January 10 2015 12:51 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 12:03 Introvert wrote:
On January 10 2015 11:31 Introvert wrote:
On January 10 2015 11:23 Sub40APM wrote:
On January 10 2015 09:18 Chewbacca. wrote:
Wonder how much shit like that occurs and the FBI or whomever stops it and we just hear nothing about it.

If the terrorists names are Ahmed and Muhammed, we will hear about it. If its Bubba we will not. Because white people arent terrorists, they are just individual mentally insane people. Unlike those monolithic black-Muslim blocks.


Except the people in the story are white, and none of them are named Ahmed.

What am I missing?


That's why the link is for a local news site and not plastered all over Fox News.



I did a google search, and it was only on local sources. It seems to me more likely that no one reported it because nothing had actually happened yet, idk.


Well I don't think that surprises anyone?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/28/massachusetts-man-arrested-in-plot-to-destroy-pentagon-us-capitol/



What doesn't surprise anyone? Given the target and the other factors, I don't see your point. Even the NYT and others reported on that story. Or maybe it was because the phrase "Al-Qaeda" could be used and is good click-bait. But it doesn't appear that that particular story made big headlines either.

Are you saying the media as a whole prefers to report stories with suspects who have "foreign" sounding names? By all means go ahead.

But for the most part I was just confused by Sub40's original comment. I didn't know I was supposed to assume Fox News, though I suppose I should have known better, considering the poster. To me his comment was directly contradicted by the story they were referring to, lol.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
January 10 2015 04:25 GMT
#31367
On January 10 2015 13:19 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 12:51 GreenHorizons wrote:
On January 10 2015 12:03 Introvert wrote:
On January 10 2015 11:31 Introvert wrote:
On January 10 2015 11:23 Sub40APM wrote:
On January 10 2015 09:18 Chewbacca. wrote:
Wonder how much shit like that occurs and the FBI or whomever stops it and we just hear nothing about it.

If the terrorists names are Ahmed and Muhammed, we will hear about it. If its Bubba we will not. Because white people arent terrorists, they are just individual mentally insane people. Unlike those monolithic black-Muslim blocks.


Except the people in the story are white, and none of them are named Ahmed.

What am I missing?


That's why the link is for a local news site and not plastered all over Fox News.



I did a google search, and it was only on local sources. It seems to me more likely that no one reported it because nothing had actually happened yet, idk.


Well I don't think that surprises anyone?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/28/massachusetts-man-arrested-in-plot-to-destroy-pentagon-us-capitol/



What doesn't surprise anyone? Given the target and the other factors, I don't see your point. Even the NYT and others reported on that story. Or maybe it was because the phrase "Al-Qaeda" could be used and is good click-bait. But it doesn't appear that that particular story made big headlines either.

Are you saying the media as a whole prefers to report stories with suspects who have "foreign" sounding names? By all means go ahead.

But for the most part I was just confused by Sub40's original comment. I didn't know I was supposed to assume Fox News, though I suppose I should have known better, considering the poster. To me his comment was directly contradicted by the story they were referring to, lol.

Yes, you should have. To you white privilege is a band name.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23663 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 04:27:15
January 10 2015 04:27 GMT
#31368
On January 10 2015 13:19 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 12:51 GreenHorizons wrote:
On January 10 2015 12:03 Introvert wrote:
On January 10 2015 11:31 Introvert wrote:
On January 10 2015 11:23 Sub40APM wrote:
On January 10 2015 09:18 Chewbacca. wrote:
Wonder how much shit like that occurs and the FBI or whomever stops it and we just hear nothing about it.

If the terrorists names are Ahmed and Muhammed, we will hear about it. If its Bubba we will not. Because white people arent terrorists, they are just individual mentally insane people. Unlike those monolithic black-Muslim blocks.


Except the people in the story are white, and none of them are named Ahmed.

What am I missing?


That's why the link is for a local news site and not plastered all over Fox News.



I did a google search, and it was only on local sources. It seems to me more likely that no one reported it because nothing had actually happened yet, idk.


Well I don't think that surprises anyone?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/28/massachusetts-man-arrested-in-plot-to-destroy-pentagon-us-capitol/



What doesn't surprise anyone? Given the target and the other factors, I don't see your point. Even the NYT and others reported on that story. Or maybe it was because the phrase "Al-Qaeda" could be used and is good click-bait. But it doesn't appear that that particular story made big headlines either.

Are you saying the media as a whole prefers to report stories with suspects who have "foreign" sounding names? By all means go ahead.

But for the most part I was just confused by Sub40's original comment. I didn't know I was supposed to assume Fox News, though I suppose I should have known better, considering the poster. To me his comment was directly contradicted by the story they were referring to, lol.


That you would miss what's obvious to many, and your ignorance would be used as it was.

It seems to me more likely that no one reported it because nothing had actually happened yet, idk.


Really think anyone believes you didn't know fox news not covering terrorists was part of the subtext?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Wolfstan
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada605 Posts
January 10 2015 04:36 GMT
#31369
On January 10 2015 11:54 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 11:15 Wolfstan wrote:
Here's a better source GH, more factual, less partisan.

The GOP-controlled House of Representatives has voted 266-153 to approve the Keystone XL pipeline despite a presidential veto threat, just hours after Nebraska's Supreme Court, in a split decision, cleared the way for the controversial project.

The Senate, which also has a Republican majority, is considering similar legislation.
...
The White House says President Obama will veto any congressional legislation that approves the pipeline. He has previously said he will let the process — including the one in Nebraska's courts — play out before his decision. And the White House reiterated that position today.
...
But after today's court decision, Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, chairwoman of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, said the decision "wipes out President Obama's last excuse."

"Regardless of whatever new excuse he may come up with, Congress is moving forward," she said in a statement.

The comments were echoed by the American Petroleum Institute, which said Obama "has no more excuses to delay or deny the Keystone XL pipeline."

One of the groups in the coalition opposing today's court decision, Bold Nebraska, said the issue is now in Obama's hands.

"This is a bad day for property rights in Nebraska," the group said in a statement. "Private, foreign corporations now know they can buy their way through our state."


Source


I didn't post it as information about the pipeline? The point was to show that the bipartisan thing isn't going to happen any time soon. Also that the rhetoric is only going to get turned up from here.

Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 11:31 Introvert wrote:
On January 10 2015 11:23 Sub40APM wrote:
On January 10 2015 09:18 Chewbacca. wrote:
Wonder how much shit like that occurs and the FBI or whomever stops it and we just hear nothing about it.

If the terrorists names are Ahmed and Muhammed, we will hear about it. If its Bubba we will not. Because white people arent terrorists, they are just individual mentally insane people. Unlike those monolithic black-Muslim blocks.


Except the people in the story are white, and none of them are named Ahmed.

What am I missing?


That's why the link is for a local news site and not plastered all over Fox News.


I assume by bipartisan you mean bringing 28 dems or 10% of the votes in favor? Your video showed one person engaging in class warfare rhetoric attacking "money and power" and somehow you pull out the house is being too partisan?
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 04:43:54
January 10 2015 04:43 GMT
#31370


Mitt Romney told a group of longtime supporters on Friday that he is considering running for president, a major turnaround for a past GOP nominee who just a year ago categorically ruled out a 2016 run.

If he follows through, it would be Romney’s third White House campaign, and it would shake up the already large field of Republicans eyeing the presidency. But even many Romney supporters are skeptical he will ultimately jump in and risk losing three times.

“Everybody in here can go tell your friends that I’m considering a run,” Romney said at a private meeting in New York with about 30 former donors, according to one source.

The former Massachusetts governor, who was the Republican presidential nominee in 2012, said he had a number of ideas about how to help the country, and that one of the issues he’d like to address is poverty, two people on hand at the meeting said. He also pledged that if he does decide to join the race, he would run a much different campaign than he has in the past.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4908 Posts
January 10 2015 05:02 GMT
#31371
On January 10 2015 13:25 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 13:19 Introvert wrote:
On January 10 2015 12:51 GreenHorizons wrote:
On January 10 2015 12:03 Introvert wrote:
On January 10 2015 11:31 Introvert wrote:
On January 10 2015 11:23 Sub40APM wrote:
On January 10 2015 09:18 Chewbacca. wrote:
Wonder how much shit like that occurs and the FBI or whomever stops it and we just hear nothing about it.

If the terrorists names are Ahmed and Muhammed, we will hear about it. If its Bubba we will not. Because white people arent terrorists, they are just individual mentally insane people. Unlike those monolithic black-Muslim blocks.


Except the people in the story are white, and none of them are named Ahmed.

What am I missing?


That's why the link is for a local news site and not plastered all over Fox News.



I did a google search, and it was only on local sources. It seems to me more likely that no one reported it because nothing had actually happened yet, idk.


Well I don't think that surprises anyone?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/28/massachusetts-man-arrested-in-plot-to-destroy-pentagon-us-capitol/



What doesn't surprise anyone? Given the target and the other factors, I don't see your point. Even the NYT and others reported on that story. Or maybe it was because the phrase "Al-Qaeda" could be used and is good click-bait. But it doesn't appear that that particular story made big headlines either.

Are you saying the media as a whole prefers to report stories with suspects who have "foreign" sounding names? By all means go ahead.

But for the most part I was just confused by Sub40's original comment. I didn't know I was supposed to assume Fox News, though I suppose I should have known better, considering the poster. To me his comment was directly contradicted by the story they were referring to, lol.

Yes, you should have. To you white privilege is a band name.


Sorry, I forgot "news" = Fox News in Sub40-ese.


On January 10 2015 13:27 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 13:19 Introvert wrote:
On January 10 2015 12:51 GreenHorizons wrote:
On January 10 2015 12:03 Introvert wrote:
On January 10 2015 11:31 Introvert wrote:
On January 10 2015 11:23 Sub40APM wrote:
On January 10 2015 09:18 Chewbacca. wrote:
Wonder how much shit like that occurs and the FBI or whomever stops it and we just hear nothing about it.

If the terrorists names are Ahmed and Muhammed, we will hear about it. If its Bubba we will not. Because white people arent terrorists, they are just individual mentally insane people. Unlike those monolithic black-Muslim blocks.


Except the people in the story are white, and none of them are named Ahmed.

What am I missing?


That's why the link is for a local news site and not plastered all over Fox News.



I did a google search, and it was only on local sources. It seems to me more likely that no one reported it because nothing had actually happened yet, idk.


Well I don't think that surprises anyone?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/28/massachusetts-man-arrested-in-plot-to-destroy-pentagon-us-capitol/



What doesn't surprise anyone? Given the target and the other factors, I don't see your point. Even the NYT and others reported on that story. Or maybe it was because the phrase "Al-Qaeda" could be used and is good click-bait. But it doesn't appear that that particular story made big headlines either.

Are you saying the media as a whole prefers to report stories with suspects who have "foreign" sounding names? By all means go ahead.

But for the most part I was just confused by Sub40's original comment. I didn't know I was supposed to assume Fox News, though I suppose I should have known better, considering the poster. To me his comment was directly contradicted by the story they were referring to, lol.


That you would miss what's obvious to many, and your ignorance would be used as it was.

Show nested quote +
It seems to me more likely that no one reported it because nothing had actually happened yet, idk.


Really think anyone believes you didn't know fox news not covering terrorists was part of the subtext?



I'm just amused that I was supposed to just know that it was Fox News and this is some great display of ignorance. Of course sites are biased in certain ways. Come on, I'm a conservative, I know exactly how to complain about bias.
But no, I honestly had no idea he was referring to Fox News in particular. I guess my liberal speak filter is not up to par today.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
January 10 2015 05:08 GMT
#31372
On January 10 2015 13:43 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:


Show nested quote +
Mitt Romney told a group of longtime supporters on Friday that he is considering running for president, a major turnaround for a past GOP nominee who just a year ago categorically ruled out a 2016 run.

If he follows through, it would be Romney’s third White House campaign, and it would shake up the already large field of Republicans eyeing the presidency. But even many Romney supporters are skeptical he will ultimately jump in and risk losing three times.

“Everybody in here can go tell your friends that I’m considering a run,” Romney said at a private meeting in New York with about 30 former donors, according to one source.

The former Massachusetts governor, who was the Republican presidential nominee in 2012, said he had a number of ideas about how to help the country, and that one of the issues he’d like to address is poverty, two people on hand at the meeting said. He also pledged that if he does decide to join the race, he would run a much different campaign than he has in the past.


Source


I say old Rom dog should do it. I really enjoyed the documentary Mitt, and want to see the sequel.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23663 Posts
January 10 2015 05:13 GMT
#31373
On January 10 2015 14:02 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 13:25 Sub40APM wrote:
On January 10 2015 13:19 Introvert wrote:
On January 10 2015 12:51 GreenHorizons wrote:
On January 10 2015 12:03 Introvert wrote:
On January 10 2015 11:31 Introvert wrote:
On January 10 2015 11:23 Sub40APM wrote:
On January 10 2015 09:18 Chewbacca. wrote:
Wonder how much shit like that occurs and the FBI or whomever stops it and we just hear nothing about it.

If the terrorists names are Ahmed and Muhammed, we will hear about it. If its Bubba we will not. Because white people arent terrorists, they are just individual mentally insane people. Unlike those monolithic black-Muslim blocks.


Except the people in the story are white, and none of them are named Ahmed.

What am I missing?


That's why the link is for a local news site and not plastered all over Fox News.



I did a google search, and it was only on local sources. It seems to me more likely that no one reported it because nothing had actually happened yet, idk.


Well I don't think that surprises anyone?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/28/massachusetts-man-arrested-in-plot-to-destroy-pentagon-us-capitol/



What doesn't surprise anyone? Given the target and the other factors, I don't see your point. Even the NYT and others reported on that story. Or maybe it was because the phrase "Al-Qaeda" could be used and is good click-bait. But it doesn't appear that that particular story made big headlines either.

Are you saying the media as a whole prefers to report stories with suspects who have "foreign" sounding names? By all means go ahead.

But for the most part I was just confused by Sub40's original comment. I didn't know I was supposed to assume Fox News, though I suppose I should have known better, considering the poster. To me his comment was directly contradicted by the story they were referring to, lol.

Yes, you should have. To you white privilege is a band name.


Sorry, I forgot "news" = Fox News in Sub40-ese.


Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 13:27 GreenHorizons wrote:
On January 10 2015 13:19 Introvert wrote:
On January 10 2015 12:51 GreenHorizons wrote:
On January 10 2015 12:03 Introvert wrote:
On January 10 2015 11:31 Introvert wrote:
On January 10 2015 11:23 Sub40APM wrote:
On January 10 2015 09:18 Chewbacca. wrote:
Wonder how much shit like that occurs and the FBI or whomever stops it and we just hear nothing about it.

If the terrorists names are Ahmed and Muhammed, we will hear about it. If its Bubba we will not. Because white people arent terrorists, they are just individual mentally insane people. Unlike those monolithic black-Muslim blocks.


Except the people in the story are white, and none of them are named Ahmed.

What am I missing?


That's why the link is for a local news site and not plastered all over Fox News.



I did a google search, and it was only on local sources. It seems to me more likely that no one reported it because nothing had actually happened yet, idk.


Well I don't think that surprises anyone?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/28/massachusetts-man-arrested-in-plot-to-destroy-pentagon-us-capitol/



What doesn't surprise anyone? Given the target and the other factors, I don't see your point. Even the NYT and others reported on that story. Or maybe it was because the phrase "Al-Qaeda" could be used and is good click-bait. But it doesn't appear that that particular story made big headlines either.

Are you saying the media as a whole prefers to report stories with suspects who have "foreign" sounding names? By all means go ahead.

But for the most part I was just confused by Sub40's original comment. I didn't know I was supposed to assume Fox News, though I suppose I should have known better, considering the poster. To me his comment was directly contradicted by the story they were referring to, lol.


That you would miss what's obvious to many, and your ignorance would be used as it was.

It seems to me more likely that no one reported it because nothing had actually happened yet, idk.


Really think anyone believes you didn't know fox news not covering terrorists was part of the subtext?



I'm just amused that I was supposed to just know that it was Fox News and this is some great display of ignorance. Of course sites are biased in certain ways. Come on, I'm a conservative, I know exactly how to complain about bias.
But no, I honestly had no idea he was referring to Fox News in particular. I guess my liberal speak filter is not up to par today.


If you don't know about Fox News and Terrorism you must live on another planet. Nothing to do with liberal or conservative.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 05:27:25
January 10 2015 05:24 GMT
#31374
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-30757204

Who knew that moveon.org thing, "General betrayus" was actually right, but in a really round about way.

US prosecutors have recommended bringing charges against ex-CIA director David Petraeus for providing classified information to a former mistress, the New York Times reports.

The paper cites officials who spoke on condition of anonymity.



fucking Holder is dragging his feet because Obama's admins addiction to secrecy above all else. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/10/us/politics/prosecutors-said-to-recommend-charges-against-former-gen-david-petraeus.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=1

Mr. Holder was expected to decide by the end of last year whether to bring charges against Mr. Petraeus, but he has not indicated how he plans to proceed. The delay has frustrated some Justice Department and F.B.I. officials and investigators who have questioned whether Mr. Petraeus has received special treatment at a time Mr. Holder has led a crackdown on government officials who reveal secrets to journalists.
JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
January 10 2015 05:56 GMT
#31375
On January 10 2015 11:23 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 09:18 Chewbacca. wrote:
Wonder how much shit like that occurs and the FBI or whomever stops it and we just hear nothing about it.

If the terrorists names are Ahmed and Muhammed, we will hear about it. If its Bubba we will not. Because white people arent terrorists, they are just individual mentally insane people. Unlike those monolithic black-Muslim blocks.

They aren't a monolithic block, but the terror threat is primarily from Muslims these days.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsuccessful_terrorist_plots_in_the_United_States_post-9/11

The media has been pretty consistently emphasizing, rightly or wrongly, that the problem is radical Islam and that most Muslims are peaceful.

In the 90's there was more weird white people crap going on and the media reported on it plenty. Examples include the Unabomber, Oklahoma City bombing, the Waco siege (Branch Davidians), or the Heaven's Gate cult.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23663 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 06:15:46
January 10 2015 06:13 GMT
#31376
The day went left when Stelly says her boyfriend Castex was pulled over by two state troopers.

The incident was captured on the dash cam from the trooper's unit on the scene.

"They say they pulled me over for speeding and I received no speeding ticket. They said they were smelling stuff and they were looking for stuff in the car and they didn't find nothing," says Castex.

Stelly does admit the troopers found a small amount of marijuana in her purse. But Allie Booker, who represents Stelly, says that was no reason for her client to endure a body cavity search at the hands of a female trooper. An embarrassing, intrusive, and what the attorney calls an illegal search on the side of the road.

Booker says, "police officers can not go into your cavity all they can do it pat search you any kind of cavity searches are unconstitutional. The supreme court has upheld visual cavity searches."

Stelly says, "I was on my cycle so she could not penetrate the vaginal area but she went to the anal area and she penetrated and put her finger inside and I just felt violated."

Booker says it was the same female trooper who was in hot water back in 2012 for going too far with a cavity search involving two more females in Brazoria County...Two women who were also represented by Booker.

The state settled that lawsuit with the plaintiffs.

Booker says, "she (trooper) was reprimanded she was put on six months leave and she was retrained."

Training Stelly says the trooper did not put to use on her because she left Brazoria County feeling like a sexual assault victim.

"I was scared I was violated I didn't know what to do," says Stelly.


Source

Sometimes you have to put a finger in someones ass on the side of the road in broad daylight to protect people from cannabis amiright?

You see Millitron, why I think barrel shrouds aren't a top priority?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
January 10 2015 08:35 GMT
#31377
On January 10 2015 14:24 Sub40APM wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-30757204

Who knew that moveon.org thing, "General betrayus" was actually right, but in a really round about way.

Show nested quote +
US prosecutors have recommended bringing charges against ex-CIA director David Petraeus for providing classified information to a former mistress, the New York Times reports.

The paper cites officials who spoke on condition of anonymity.



fucking Holder is dragging his feet because Obama's admins addiction to secrecy above all else. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/10/us/politics/prosecutors-said-to-recommend-charges-against-former-gen-david-petraeus.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=1

Show nested quote +
Mr. Holder was expected to decide by the end of last year whether to bring charges against Mr. Petraeus, but he has not indicated how he plans to proceed. The delay has frustrated some Justice Department and F.B.I. officials and investigators who have questioned whether Mr. Petraeus has received special treatment at a time Mr. Holder has led a crackdown on government officials who reveal secrets to journalists.

On the one hand, Petraeus broke the law and lost any semblance and dreams of power he ever had by being put out the pasture in the revolving door of government and finance (he works at private equity firm KKR now). On the other hand, he's apparently doing really well at KKR and is easily in the top 0.1% (>$2.5 million), which makes him among the most successful Washington reject of the Obama era, and I think that's why the DOJ leaked this to sort of knock him down a peg and remind everyone that he was kicked out in disgrace.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
January 10 2015 09:10 GMT
#31378
On January 10 2015 15:13 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
The day went left when Stelly says her boyfriend Castex was pulled over by two state troopers.

The incident was captured on the dash cam from the trooper's unit on the scene.

"They say they pulled me over for speeding and I received no speeding ticket. They said they were smelling stuff and they were looking for stuff in the car and they didn't find nothing," says Castex.

Stelly does admit the troopers found a small amount of marijuana in her purse. But Allie Booker, who represents Stelly, says that was no reason for her client to endure a body cavity search at the hands of a female trooper. An embarrassing, intrusive, and what the attorney calls an illegal search on the side of the road.

Booker says, "police officers can not go into your cavity all they can do it pat search you any kind of cavity searches are unconstitutional. The supreme court has upheld visual cavity searches."

Stelly says, "I was on my cycle so she could not penetrate the vaginal area but she went to the anal area and she penetrated and put her finger inside and I just felt violated."

Booker says it was the same female trooper who was in hot water back in 2012 for going too far with a cavity search involving two more females in Brazoria County...Two women who were also represented by Booker.

The state settled that lawsuit with the plaintiffs.

Booker says, "she (trooper) was reprimanded she was put on six months leave and she was retrained."

Training Stelly says the trooper did not put to use on her because she left Brazoria County feeling like a sexual assault victim.

"I was scared I was violated I didn't know what to do," says Stelly.


Source

Sometimes you have to put a finger in someones ass on the side of the road in broad daylight to protect people from cannabis amiright?

You see Millitron, why I think barrel shrouds aren't a top priority?


I would want to punch the cop in the fucking face if (s)he did that to me. Then I'd be summarily beaten and jailed and become a felon of course. But fuck asshole cops.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23663 Posts
January 10 2015 09:17 GMT
#31379
On January 10 2015 18:10 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 15:13 GreenHorizons wrote:
The day went left when Stelly says her boyfriend Castex was pulled over by two state troopers.

The incident was captured on the dash cam from the trooper's unit on the scene.

"They say they pulled me over for speeding and I received no speeding ticket. They said they were smelling stuff and they were looking for stuff in the car and they didn't find nothing," says Castex.

Stelly does admit the troopers found a small amount of marijuana in her purse. But Allie Booker, who represents Stelly, says that was no reason for her client to endure a body cavity search at the hands of a female trooper. An embarrassing, intrusive, and what the attorney calls an illegal search on the side of the road.

Booker says, "police officers can not go into your cavity all they can do it pat search you any kind of cavity searches are unconstitutional. The supreme court has upheld visual cavity searches."

Stelly says, "I was on my cycle so she could not penetrate the vaginal area but she went to the anal area and she penetrated and put her finger inside and I just felt violated."

Booker says it was the same female trooper who was in hot water back in 2012 for going too far with a cavity search involving two more females in Brazoria County...Two women who were also represented by Booker.

The state settled that lawsuit with the plaintiffs.

Booker says, "she (trooper) was reprimanded she was put on six months leave and she was retrained."

Training Stelly says the trooper did not put to use on her because she left Brazoria County feeling like a sexual assault victim.

"I was scared I was violated I didn't know what to do," says Stelly.


Source

Sometimes you have to put a finger in someones ass on the side of the road in broad daylight to protect people from cannabis amiright?

You see Millitron, why I think barrel shrouds aren't a top priority?


I would want to punch the cop in the fucking face if (s)he did that to me. Then I'd be summarily beaten and jailed and become a felon of course. But fuck asshole cops.


If you don't want to get fingered in the ass on the highway than don't break the law right? Who cares what law...
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
January 10 2015 16:17 GMT
#31380
On January 10 2015 15:13 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
The day went left when Stelly says her boyfriend Castex was pulled over by two state troopers.

The incident was captured on the dash cam from the trooper's unit on the scene.

"They say they pulled me over for speeding and I received no speeding ticket. They said they were smelling stuff and they were looking for stuff in the car and they didn't find nothing," says Castex.

Stelly does admit the troopers found a small amount of marijuana in her purse. But Allie Booker, who represents Stelly, says that was no reason for her client to endure a body cavity search at the hands of a female trooper. An embarrassing, intrusive, and what the attorney calls an illegal search on the side of the road.

Booker says, "police officers can not go into your cavity all they can do it pat search you any kind of cavity searches are unconstitutional. The supreme court has upheld visual cavity searches."

Stelly says, "I was on my cycle so she could not penetrate the vaginal area but she went to the anal area and she penetrated and put her finger inside and I just felt violated."

Booker says it was the same female trooper who was in hot water back in 2012 for going too far with a cavity search involving two more females in Brazoria County...Two women who were also represented by Booker.

The state settled that lawsuit with the plaintiffs.

Booker says, "she (trooper) was reprimanded she was put on six months leave and she was retrained."

Training Stelly says the trooper did not put to use on her because she left Brazoria County feeling like a sexual assault victim.

"I was scared I was violated I didn't know what to do," says Stelly.


Source

Sometimes you have to put a finger in someones ass on the side of the road in broad daylight to protect people from cannabis amiright?

You see Millitron, why I think barrel shrouds aren't a top priority?

that's pretty terrible and ridiculous.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
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