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NEWARK, N.J. — Newly elected Mayor Ras J. Baraka, a former high school principal and son of the late poet Amiri Baraka, ran on promises of compassionate reform. He would strengthen the public schools, alleviate poverty and use community policing to bring peace to his majority-African American hometown. But in November, a few months into his term, Baraka quietly helped pass a law that criminal justice advocates say will hurt the city’s most vulnerable: He quadrupled the fee Newark Municipal Court can charge poor defendants applying for free legal representation.
The fee hike, from $50 to $200, is the latest notch in the national trend of charging “user fees” to fund struggling courts. The Sixth Amendment and a long line of Supreme Court cases promise a lawyer to every person accused of a crime, even those who cannot pay. In practice, though, indigent clients often do pay for their attorneys, particularly in lower-level courts.
Around the same time as the fee increase in Newark, New Jersey’s superior courts raised a raft of fees to file and respond to civil cases. And the Office of the Public Defender, or OPD, which works in the superior courts, announced that it would charge a flat fee per case, instead of an hourly sum, to encourage more clients to pay.
Baraka’s office has said that judges can waive the $200 application fee if they determine a client cannot pay, and that the increase brings the city’s municipal court — the busiest in the state — in line with those of other jurisdictions. Legal groups, including the Brennan Center for Justice and the American Bar Association, however, warn that public-defender application fees can deter the accused from seeking counsel.
“For the most part, [my clients] don’t have [the application fee]. It’s a lot of money,” said Anthony Cowell, an OPD staff attorney who previously represented defendants in the Mercer County municipal courts. “It’s been said it’s a revenue-generator, but you’re charging people who absolutely can’t afford it. They’re homeless, they’re mentally ill, they’re in shelters.… Maybe they collect [Social Security Disability] income, but it’s all spoken for.”
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On January 11 2015 02:34 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +NEWARK, N.J. — Newly elected Mayor Ras J. Baraka, a former high school principal and son of the late poet Amiri Baraka, ran on promises of compassionate reform. He would strengthen the public schools, alleviate poverty and use community policing to bring peace to his majority-African American hometown. But in November, a few months into his term, Baraka quietly helped pass a law that criminal justice advocates say will hurt the city’s most vulnerable: He quadrupled the fee Newark Municipal Court can charge poor defendants applying for free legal representation.
The fee hike, from $50 to $200, is the latest notch in the national trend of charging “user fees” to fund struggling courts. The Sixth Amendment and a long line of Supreme Court cases promise a lawyer to every person accused of a crime, even those who cannot pay. In practice, though, indigent clients often do pay for their attorneys, particularly in lower-level courts.
Around the same time as the fee increase in Newark, New Jersey’s superior courts raised a raft of fees to file and respond to civil cases. And the Office of the Public Defender, or OPD, which works in the superior courts, announced that it would charge a flat fee per case, instead of an hourly sum, to encourage more clients to pay.
Baraka’s office has said that judges can waive the $200 application fee if they determine a client cannot pay, and that the increase brings the city’s municipal court — the busiest in the state — in line with those of other jurisdictions. Legal groups, including the Brennan Center for Justice and the American Bar Association, however, warn that public-defender application fees can deter the accused from seeking counsel.
“For the most part, [my clients] don’t have [the application fee]. It’s a lot of money,” said Anthony Cowell, an OPD staff attorney who previously represented defendants in the Mercer County municipal courts. “It’s been said it’s a revenue-generator, but you’re charging people who absolutely can’t afford it. They’re homeless, they’re mentally ill, they’re in shelters.… Maybe they collect [Social Security Disability] income, but it’s all spoken for.” Source
Since he's a member of the Democratic Party, the Al Jazeera news story elects not to mention it at all. Not so with every hit piece on a Republican, if you've been paying attention.
Also, what size of funding shortfalls is this court system facing?
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On January 11 2015 02:34 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +NEWARK, N.J. — Newly elected Mayor Ras J. Baraka, a former high school principal and son of the late poet Amiri Baraka, ran on promises of compassionate reform. He would strengthen the public schools, alleviate poverty and use community policing to bring peace to his majority-African American hometown. But in November, a few months into his term, Baraka quietly helped pass a law that criminal justice advocates say will hurt the city’s most vulnerable: He quadrupled the fee Newark Municipal Court can charge poor defendants applying for free legal representation.
The fee hike, from $50 to $200, is the latest notch in the national trend of charging “user fees” to fund struggling courts. The Sixth Amendment and a long line of Supreme Court cases promise a lawyer to every person accused of a crime, even those who cannot pay. In practice, though, indigent clients often do pay for their attorneys, particularly in lower-level courts.
Around the same time as the fee increase in Newark, New Jersey’s superior courts raised a raft of fees to file and respond to civil cases. And the Office of the Public Defender, or OPD, which works in the superior courts, announced that it would charge a flat fee per case, instead of an hourly sum, to encourage more clients to pay.
Baraka’s office has said that judges can waive the $200 application fee if they determine a client cannot pay, and that the increase brings the city’s municipal court — the busiest in the state — in line with those of other jurisdictions. Legal groups, including the Brennan Center for Justice and the American Bar Association, however, warn that public-defender application fees can deter the accused from seeking counsel.
“For the most part, [my clients] don’t have [the application fee]. It’s a lot of money,” said Anthony Cowell, an OPD staff attorney who previously represented defendants in the Mercer County municipal courts. “It’s been said it’s a revenue-generator, but you’re charging people who absolutely can’t afford it. They’re homeless, they’re mentally ill, they’re in shelters.… Maybe they collect [Social Security Disability] income, but it’s all spoken for.” Source
So how can they call it free legal representation if you have to pay a fee to get it?
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The U.S. economy saw the strongest job growth last year since 1999, according to statistics released Friday by the Department of Labor. The country gained another 252,000 jobs in December.
That's the good news — but this jobs report also dashed some hopes for fatter paychecks. Employers are hiring more people, but overall, the wages they're paying remain flat.
A month ago, it seemed wages were starting to pick up — but those November numbers were revised lower. In December, wages actually fell slightly.
"There is this ongoing puzzle, and economists are trying to figure this out," says Harry Holzer, a former chief economist for the Labor Department.
Holzer says that, historically, when unemployment has fallen to a number like December's 5.6 percent, the increased demand for labor has pushed wages up. Not this time.
"How can it be that we haven't seen any growth, adjusted for inflation, so far?" he asks. "Probably the real answer to that is that there's still more slack in the labor market."
In other words, the unemployment rate is no longer a good yardstick. Many workers have dropped out of the labor force or are working part-time, and those people are not captured in the unemployment rate figure.
Most agree that if employers keep hiring more workers, at some point, wages will rise — but the question is, by how much? Holzer says if you look back at the 30-year period after World War II, wages rose rapidly.
"The rising tide was lifting all the boats," Holzer says. "You had strong wage growth, year-in, year-out, and over a 30-year period the average worker's earnings were more or less doubled."
Since the early 1970s, though, it's been a very different story. Holzer says overall wages, adjusted for inflation, have only risen 20 percent since 1973. For a big chunk of what used to be the middle class — working-age men with a high school education — wages haven't risen at all. In fact, they've fallen.
"All less-educated men are earning less than they did 40 years ago," he says. "That's just a really new story in American history. People ought to know that that's really different than anything we've experienced in the past."
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On January 11 2015 01:17 oneofthem wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2015 15:13 GreenHorizons wrote:The day went left when Stelly says her boyfriend Castex was pulled over by two state troopers.
The incident was captured on the dash cam from the trooper's unit on the scene.
"They say they pulled me over for speeding and I received no speeding ticket. They said they were smelling stuff and they were looking for stuff in the car and they didn't find nothing," says Castex.
Stelly does admit the troopers found a small amount of marijuana in her purse. But Allie Booker, who represents Stelly, says that was no reason for her client to endure a body cavity search at the hands of a female trooper. An embarrassing, intrusive, and what the attorney calls an illegal search on the side of the road.
Booker says, "police officers can not go into your cavity all they can do it pat search you any kind of cavity searches are unconstitutional. The supreme court has upheld visual cavity searches."
Stelly says, "I was on my cycle so she could not penetrate the vaginal area but she went to the anal area and she penetrated and put her finger inside and I just felt violated."
Booker says it was the same female trooper who was in hot water back in 2012 for going too far with a cavity search involving two more females in Brazoria County...Two women who were also represented by Booker.
The state settled that lawsuit with the plaintiffs.
Booker says, "she (trooper) was reprimanded she was put on six months leave and she was retrained."
Training Stelly says the trooper did not put to use on her because she left Brazoria County feeling like a sexual assault victim.
"I was scared I was violated I didn't know what to do," says Stelly. SourceSometimes you have to put a finger in someones ass on the side of the road in broad daylight to protect people from cannabis amiright? You see Millitron, why I think barrel shrouds aren't a top priority? that's pretty terrible and ridiculous.
What blows my mind is that it wasn't even the first time the officer had done that to someone. I don't know how a road side probing doesn't drive conservatives up the wall. But hey obviously it's people like Sharpton and De Blasio making people angry at bad cops and the system that protects them, nothing to do with stuff like an officer taking their opportunity to anally probe at least a second/third victim on the side of the road in broad daylight for cannabis...
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On January 11 2015 01:17 oneofthem wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2015 15:13 GreenHorizons wrote:The day went left when Stelly says her boyfriend Castex was pulled over by two state troopers.
The incident was captured on the dash cam from the trooper's unit on the scene.
"They say they pulled me over for speeding and I received no speeding ticket. They said they were smelling stuff and they were looking for stuff in the car and they didn't find nothing," says Castex.
Stelly does admit the troopers found a small amount of marijuana in her purse. But Allie Booker, who represents Stelly, says that was no reason for her client to endure a body cavity search at the hands of a female trooper. An embarrassing, intrusive, and what the attorney calls an illegal search on the side of the road.
Booker says, "police officers can not go into your cavity all they can do it pat search you any kind of cavity searches are unconstitutional. The supreme court has upheld visual cavity searches."
Stelly says, "I was on my cycle so she could not penetrate the vaginal area but she went to the anal area and she penetrated and put her finger inside and I just felt violated."
Booker says it was the same female trooper who was in hot water back in 2012 for going too far with a cavity search involving two more females in Brazoria County...Two women who were also represented by Booker.
The state settled that lawsuit with the plaintiffs.
Booker says, "she (trooper) was reprimanded she was put on six months leave and she was retrained."
Training Stelly says the trooper did not put to use on her because she left Brazoria County feeling like a sexual assault victim.
"I was scared I was violated I didn't know what to do," says Stelly. SourceSometimes you have to put a finger in someones ass on the side of the road in broad daylight to protect people from cannabis amiright? You see Millitron, why I think barrel shrouds aren't a top priority? that's pretty terrible and ridiculous.
anal probings are not a problem. our reaction to them is the problem.
this persons idea of privacy is way too simplistic.
the officer was merely recording the address of her butthole in case
she were to put drugs inside it at some future point in time.
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very cute. can you describe where the data miner touched you?
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On January 11 2015 05:51 oneofthem wrote:
very cute. can you describe where the data miner touched you?
roflmao "data miner".
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On January 11 2015 04:32 Millitron wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2015 02:34 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:NEWARK, N.J. — Newly elected Mayor Ras J. Baraka, a former high school principal and son of the late poet Amiri Baraka, ran on promises of compassionate reform. He would strengthen the public schools, alleviate poverty and use community policing to bring peace to his majority-African American hometown. But in November, a few months into his term, Baraka quietly helped pass a law that criminal justice advocates say will hurt the city’s most vulnerable: He quadrupled the fee Newark Municipal Court can charge poor defendants applying for free legal representation.
The fee hike, from $50 to $200, is the latest notch in the national trend of charging “user fees” to fund struggling courts. The Sixth Amendment and a long line of Supreme Court cases promise a lawyer to every person accused of a crime, even those who cannot pay. In practice, though, indigent clients often do pay for their attorneys, particularly in lower-level courts.
Around the same time as the fee increase in Newark, New Jersey’s superior courts raised a raft of fees to file and respond to civil cases. And the Office of the Public Defender, or OPD, which works in the superior courts, announced that it would charge a flat fee per case, instead of an hourly sum, to encourage more clients to pay.
Baraka’s office has said that judges can waive the $200 application fee if they determine a client cannot pay, and that the increase brings the city’s municipal court — the busiest in the state — in line with those of other jurisdictions. Legal groups, including the Brennan Center for Justice and the American Bar Association, however, warn that public-defender application fees can deter the accused from seeking counsel.
“For the most part, [my clients] don’t have [the application fee]. It’s a lot of money,” said Anthony Cowell, an OPD staff attorney who previously represented defendants in the Mercer County municipal courts. “It’s been said it’s a revenue-generator, but you’re charging people who absolutely can’t afford it. They’re homeless, they’re mentally ill, they’re in shelters.… Maybe they collect [Social Security Disability] income, but it’s all spoken for.” Source So how can they call it free legal representation if you have to pay a fee to get it?
They probably shouldn't. It's a public defender, costs X, with the possibility of the fee being waived. IMO it's the same problem as a lot of things - the basics have languished to make room for other budget 'priorities'.
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(CNN)George Zimmerman -- the man acquitted by a Florida jury over the death of Trayvon Martin -- was arrested Friday in Florida on suspicion of aggravated assault and domestic violence with a weapon, local authorities said.
The 31-year-old Florida man was arrested by police in Lake Mary around 10 p.m. and booked into the John E. Polk Correctional Facility, according to that facility's website. That facility, like its website, is run by the Seminole County Sheriff's Office.
It all came about after Zimmerman allegedly threw a wine bottle at a girlfriend, his lawyer Don West told reporters.
"Whatever happened took place several days ago," said West. "And, as far as I know, they have not been together for some time, certainly not since then."
Police first learned about it after coming "in contact with the (alleged) victim at a traffic stop," Lake Mary police spokeswoman Bianca Gillett said.
The incident is the latest legal run-in for Zimmerman since his acquittal in July 2012 on a murder charge in the death of Martin, a 17-year-old African-American. In fact, it's his second arrest for alleged domestic violence against a girlfriend -- though Lake Mary police spokeswoman Bianca Gillett said this alleged "victim is not the same (woman) as in 2013."
"It's clear he hasn't been very lucky with the ladies the last few months," West said of his client.
Source
Teenage boys were too dangerous so he's moved on to fighting women. I just hope people are at least a bit more skeptical of GZ's telling of the events the night Trayvon was killed by now.
Hopefully this one doesn't let him off so he at least won't be running around with a (legal) gun anymore.
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On January 11 2015 06:51 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +(CNN)George Zimmerman -- the man acquitted by a Florida jury over the death of Trayvon Martin -- was arrested Friday in Florida on suspicion of aggravated assault and domestic violence with a weapon, local authorities said.
The 31-year-old Florida man was arrested by police in Lake Mary around 10 p.m. and booked into the John E. Polk Correctional Facility, according to that facility's website. That facility, like its website, is run by the Seminole County Sheriff's Office.
It all came about after Zimmerman allegedly threw a wine bottle at a girlfriend, his lawyer Don West told reporters.
"Whatever happened took place several days ago," said West. "And, as far as I know, they have not been together for some time, certainly not since then."
Police first learned about it after coming "in contact with the (alleged) victim at a traffic stop," Lake Mary police spokeswoman Bianca Gillett said.
The incident is the latest legal run-in for Zimmerman since his acquittal in July 2012 on a murder charge in the death of Martin, a 17-year-old African-American. In fact, it's his second arrest for alleged domestic violence against a girlfriend -- though Lake Mary police spokeswoman Bianca Gillett said this alleged "victim is not the same (woman) as in 2013."
"It's clear he hasn't been very lucky with the ladies the last few months," West said of his client. SourceTeenage boys were too dangerous so he's moved on to fighting women. I just hope people are at least a bit more skeptical of GZ's telling of the events the night Trayvon was killed by now. Hopefully this one doesn't let him off so he at least won't be running around with a (legal) gun anymore.
Innocent until proven guilty. Anybody can accuse anyone of anything.
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On January 11 2015 07:01 Millitron wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2015 06:51 GreenHorizons wrote:(CNN)George Zimmerman -- the man acquitted by a Florida jury over the death of Trayvon Martin -- was arrested Friday in Florida on suspicion of aggravated assault and domestic violence with a weapon, local authorities said.
The 31-year-old Florida man was arrested by police in Lake Mary around 10 p.m. and booked into the John E. Polk Correctional Facility, according to that facility's website. That facility, like its website, is run by the Seminole County Sheriff's Office.
It all came about after Zimmerman allegedly threw a wine bottle at a girlfriend, his lawyer Don West told reporters.
"Whatever happened took place several days ago," said West. "And, as far as I know, they have not been together for some time, certainly not since then."
Police first learned about it after coming "in contact with the (alleged) victim at a traffic stop," Lake Mary police spokeswoman Bianca Gillett said.
The incident is the latest legal run-in for Zimmerman since his acquittal in July 2012 on a murder charge in the death of Martin, a 17-year-old African-American. In fact, it's his second arrest for alleged domestic violence against a girlfriend -- though Lake Mary police spokeswoman Bianca Gillett said this alleged "victim is not the same (woman) as in 2013."
"It's clear he hasn't been very lucky with the ladies the last few months," West said of his client. SourceTeenage boys were too dangerous so he's moved on to fighting women. I just hope people are at least a bit more skeptical of GZ's telling of the events the night Trayvon was killed by now. Hopefully this one doesn't let him off so he at least won't be running around with a (legal) gun anymore. Innocent until proven guilty. Anybody can accuse anyone of anything.
Well yeah but when most of the evidence points a certain way, you can connect the dots.
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Die-hard House conservatives bungled a coup against House Speaker John Boehner but now look like winners, pushing Republicans farther right.
Rather than punish and isolate those who opposed him as leader, Boehner surprised many on Friday by embracing an immigration plan that's tougher than lawmakers had expected. It would block President Barack Obama's recent limits on deportations and undo protections for immigrants brought to the United States illegally as children.
The House is heading toward a vote Wednesday.
As the rebellious hard-liners celebrated, mainstream Republicans said Boehner's decision probably portends firmly conservative approaches to other issues. That would complicate life for some of the more moderate Senate Republicans and ensure fierce battles with the Democratic president.
Florida Rep. Richard Nugent, one of the 25 House Republicans who voted to oust Boehner, praised the Boehner-backed immigration plan.
The dissidents have complained that Boehner, R-Ohio, is too willing to compromise with Obama and Democrats. But rather than seeing the rebels frozen out during private GOP discussions on immigration strategy, Nugent said, "this time it's a very collaborative approach."
For now, though, Nugent is still off the House Rules Committee, where membership is at the speaker's discretion.
Equally enthusiastic was Rep. Louie Gohmert, a Texas Republican sometimes portrayed by Democrats as the most unreasonable of conservative purists.
"One of the things that has really been lacking for the last eight years is having more input like we've finally gotten in this bill," Gohmert said.
Some Boehner allies had urged him to punish and isolate Gohmert and the other rebels.
But that approach might permanently antagonize tea party-leaning Republicans and "force Boehner into making more concessions" to Democrats to pass bills, "which is the last thing in the world we want," said GOP Rep. Kenny Marchant of Texas, shortly after Tuesday's leadership vote.
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On January 11 2015 08:21 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +WASHINGTON (AP) — Die-hard House conservatives bungled a coup against House Speaker John Boehner but now look like winners, pushing Republicans farther right.
Rather than punish and isolate those who opposed him as leader, Boehner surprised many on Friday by embracing an immigration plan that's tougher than lawmakers had expected. It would block President Barack Obama's recent limits on deportations and undo protections for immigrants brought to the United States illegally as children.
The House is heading toward a vote Wednesday.
As the rebellious hard-liners celebrated, mainstream Republicans said Boehner's decision probably portends firmly conservative approaches to other issues. That would complicate life for some of the more moderate Senate Republicans and ensure fierce battles with the Democratic president.
Florida Rep. Richard Nugent, one of the 25 House Republicans who voted to oust Boehner, praised the Boehner-backed immigration plan.
The dissidents have complained that Boehner, R-Ohio, is too willing to compromise with Obama and Democrats. But rather than seeing the rebels frozen out during private GOP discussions on immigration strategy, Nugent said, "this time it's a very collaborative approach."
For now, though, Nugent is still off the House Rules Committee, where membership is at the speaker's discretion.
Equally enthusiastic was Rep. Louie Gohmert, a Texas Republican sometimes portrayed by Democrats as the most unreasonable of conservative purists.
"One of the things that has really been lacking for the last eight years is having more input like we've finally gotten in this bill," Gohmert said.
Some Boehner allies had urged him to punish and isolate Gohmert and the other rebels.
But that approach might permanently antagonize tea party-leaning Republicans and "force Boehner into making more concessions" to Democrats to pass bills, "which is the last thing in the world we want," said GOP Rep. Kenny Marchant of Texas, shortly after Tuesday's leadership vote. Source
So the Republican nomination process is going to be almost exclusively a for-profit endeavor it appears?
Looking forward to more hilarious jokes like this....
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On January 11 2015 04:30 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2015 02:34 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:NEWARK, N.J. — Newly elected Mayor Ras J. Baraka, a former high school principal and son of the late poet Amiri Baraka, ran on promises of compassionate reform. He would strengthen the public schools, alleviate poverty and use community policing to bring peace to his majority-African American hometown. But in November, a few months into his term, Baraka quietly helped pass a law that criminal justice advocates say will hurt the city’s most vulnerable: He quadrupled the fee Newark Municipal Court can charge poor defendants applying for free legal representation.
The fee hike, from $50 to $200, is the latest notch in the national trend of charging “user fees” to fund struggling courts. The Sixth Amendment and a long line of Supreme Court cases promise a lawyer to every person accused of a crime, even those who cannot pay. In practice, though, indigent clients often do pay for their attorneys, particularly in lower-level courts.
Around the same time as the fee increase in Newark, New Jersey’s superior courts raised a raft of fees to file and respond to civil cases. And the Office of the Public Defender, or OPD, which works in the superior courts, announced that it would charge a flat fee per case, instead of an hourly sum, to encourage more clients to pay.
Baraka’s office has said that judges can waive the $200 application fee if they determine a client cannot pay, and that the increase brings the city’s municipal court — the busiest in the state — in line with those of other jurisdictions. Legal groups, including the Brennan Center for Justice and the American Bar Association, however, warn that public-defender application fees can deter the accused from seeking counsel.
“For the most part, [my clients] don’t have [the application fee]. It’s a lot of money,” said Anthony Cowell, an OPD staff attorney who previously represented defendants in the Mercer County municipal courts. “It’s been said it’s a revenue-generator, but you’re charging people who absolutely can’t afford it. They’re homeless, they’re mentally ill, they’re in shelters.… Maybe they collect [Social Security Disability] income, but it’s all spoken for.” Source Since he's a member of the Democratic Party, the Al Jazeera news story elects not to mention it at all. Not so with every hit piece on a Republican, if you've been paying attention. Also, what size of funding shortfalls is this court system facing?
While you do raise a legitimate point, to be fair to the writer of that article I doubt there is a single reasonably informed person who would assume that mayor, from the content and tone of the initial description, was a Republican.
But assumptions aren't great either.
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On January 11 2015 06:51 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +(CNN)George Zimmerman -- the man acquitted by a Florida jury over the death of Trayvon Martin -- was arrested Friday in Florida on suspicion of aggravated assault and domestic violence with a weapon, local authorities said.
The 31-year-old Florida man was arrested by police in Lake Mary around 10 p.m. and booked into the John E. Polk Correctional Facility, according to that facility's website. That facility, like its website, is run by the Seminole County Sheriff's Office.
It all came about after Zimmerman allegedly threw a wine bottle at a girlfriend, his lawyer Don West told reporters.
"Whatever happened took place several days ago," said West. "And, as far as I know, they have not been together for some time, certainly not since then."
Police first learned about it after coming "in contact with the (alleged) victim at a traffic stop," Lake Mary police spokeswoman Bianca Gillett said.
The incident is the latest legal run-in for Zimmerman since his acquittal in July 2012 on a murder charge in the death of Martin, a 17-year-old African-American. In fact, it's his second arrest for alleged domestic violence against a girlfriend -- though Lake Mary police spokeswoman Bianca Gillett said this alleged "victim is not the same (woman) as in 2013."
"It's clear he hasn't been very lucky with the ladies the last few months," West said of his client. SourceTeenage boys were too dangerous so he's moved on to fighting women. I just hope people are at least a bit more skeptical of GZ's telling of the events the night Trayvon was killed by now. Hopefully this one doesn't let him off so he at least won't be running around with a (legal) gun anymore.
why would people be more skeptical? he was found not guilty before. also, this is the second domestic violence charges with the first being dropped. i find it interesting that the charges were brought after the victim was pulled over by the police. seems odd.
Lake Mary Police spokeswoman Officer Bianca Gillett said the fight occurred Monday at Zimmerman's Lake Mary residence. Though nobody involved called 911, police found out about the fight when an officer pulled Zimmerman's girlfriend over for a routine traffic stop around 11:50 p.m. Monday, Gillett said.
"The driver stated she was just involved in a domestic altercation with George Zimmerman," Gillett said in a statement.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman/os-george-zimmerman-arrested-assault-lake-mary-20150110-story.html
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On Thursday, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) offered a simple amendment to the controversial bill that would authorize construction of the Keystone XL oil pipeline. Sanders' measure, which he proposed to the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, would have declared it the "sense of Congress" that climate change is real; that it is caused by humans; that it has already caused significant problems; and that the United States needs to shift its economy away from fossil fuels.
Sanders' amendment went nowhere. But Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), the chair of the committee, used the opportunity to take a shot at climate science. "I do believe that our climate is changing," she said. "I don't agree that all the changes are necessarily due solely to human activity." Murkowski didn't elaborate on her current thinking about the causes of global warming, but in the past she's advanced a bizarre theory involving a volcano in Iceland.
Sanders will get another chance next week, when the full Senate debates the Keystone bill—but he's likely to run into stiff resistance from GOP climate deniers. As Climate Progress revealed Thursday, more than half of the Republican members of the new Congress "deny or question" the overwhelming scientific consensus that humans are causing climate change. If you just look at the Senate, the numbers are even more disturbing. Thirty-nine GOP Senators reject the science on climate change—that's 72 percent of the Senate Republican caucus.
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On January 11 2015 12:51 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2015 06:51 GreenHorizons wrote:(CNN)George Zimmerman -- the man acquitted by a Florida jury over the death of Trayvon Martin -- was arrested Friday in Florida on suspicion of aggravated assault and domestic violence with a weapon, local authorities said.
The 31-year-old Florida man was arrested by police in Lake Mary around 10 p.m. and booked into the John E. Polk Correctional Facility, according to that facility's website. That facility, like its website, is run by the Seminole County Sheriff's Office.
It all came about after Zimmerman allegedly threw a wine bottle at a girlfriend, his lawyer Don West told reporters.
"Whatever happened took place several days ago," said West. "And, as far as I know, they have not been together for some time, certainly not since then."
Police first learned about it after coming "in contact with the (alleged) victim at a traffic stop," Lake Mary police spokeswoman Bianca Gillett said.
The incident is the latest legal run-in for Zimmerman since his acquittal in July 2012 on a murder charge in the death of Martin, a 17-year-old African-American. In fact, it's his second arrest for alleged domestic violence against a girlfriend -- though Lake Mary police spokeswoman Bianca Gillett said this alleged "victim is not the same (woman) as in 2013."
"It's clear he hasn't been very lucky with the ladies the last few months," West said of his client. SourceTeenage boys were too dangerous so he's moved on to fighting women. I just hope people are at least a bit more skeptical of GZ's telling of the events the night Trayvon was killed by now. Hopefully this one doesn't let him off so he at least won't be running around with a (legal) gun anymore. why would people be more skeptical? he was found not guilty before. also, this is the second domestic violence charges with the first being dropped. i find it interesting that the charges were brought after the victim was pulled over by the police. seems odd. Show nested quote +Lake Mary Police spokeswoman Officer Bianca Gillett said the fight occurred Monday at Zimmerman's Lake Mary residence. Though nobody involved called 911, police found out about the fight when an officer pulled Zimmerman's girlfriend over for a routine traffic stop around 11:50 p.m. Monday, Gillett said.
"The driver stated she was just involved in a domestic altercation with George Zimmerman," Gillett said in a statement. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman/os-george-zimmerman-arrested-assault-lake-mary-20150110-story.html
Fair enough, talk about throwing him under a bus though. Seems like they certainly had a fight but whether he assaulted her or not could be a matter of embellishment. Don't think if they were happy she would make up a story like that (presuming that's what you are implying).
It is a suspicious chain of coincidences regardless.
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Is there a reason people shouldn't be upset about this? I mean besides the few people who benefit from it.
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